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Oxford ethicist: use IVF to create only smart babies
The Way ^ | Mar 27, 2011 | Amanda Hopkins

Posted on 04/11/2011 8:28:42 PM PDT by TheDingoAteMyBaby

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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

All I can say is that Professor Julian Savulescu really doesn’t have a lot of common sense.

It doesn’t take much thought to realize that factors other than intelligence keep people in poverty or make people choose to be criminals. Even factors such as psychopathy are not predictors of how that person will fare in life (in any case, psychopathy is probably a result of environment and genes, making it not possible to eliminate just from a genetic test).

Sure, there is a need for high IQ people. We’re the ones figuring out the basic science that will lead to medical treatments years down the road. We’re developing new technology, writing music, making art, and doing all sorts of great things for the betterment of humanity. But there is no way we do our high IQ stuff without the support of the average or low IQ people—the administrative staff, janitors, cooks, etc. There’s no need for someone with a 160 IQ to be running the industrial dish washer or collecting the trash.

I’ll bet that Professor Julian Savulescu has all kinds of staff supporting him and the other thinkers in his department. I wouldn’t be surprised if, while dismissing them from his idea of a perfect utopia, he’s probably taking their services for granted...


21 posted on 04/11/2011 10:15:07 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

C. S. Lewis pointed out the fundamental problem with doing this long ago in his essay book The Abolition Of Man.


22 posted on 04/11/2011 11:06:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: exDemMom

Who knows, if it were possible to “wave a magic wand” and make men “smarter” without committing immoral acts, people would invent robots to do the mind numbing tasks.


23 posted on 04/11/2011 11:08:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Aside from the moralit of the situation, IVF is freakin’ expensive. Who’s paying for all this?

(Oh, right, the government . . . I forget. Silly me.)


24 posted on 04/11/2011 11:30:17 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert (March 2010: Congress shoved Obamacare down our throats. November 2010: We will shove it back!)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

even the Spartans didn’t do that
http://ancientstandard.com/2007/12/03/this-is-sparta-%E2%80%93-no-baby-throwing-allowed-ca-5th-c-bc/

Note the link to freerepublic in the article :)


25 posted on 04/12/2011 1:03:11 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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“The problem is...no one is smart enough to really know WHAT intelligence is. They can’t accurately measure it much less predict who’s going to get it.”

If there is an intelligence gene(s), it could very be something that results in slightly higher blood flow to the brain.


26 posted on 04/12/2011 1:08:06 AM PDT by ari-freedom
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27 posted on 04/12/2011 5:40:19 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

This person is not an ethicist but an agnostic eugenisist.


28 posted on 04/12/2011 5:46:02 AM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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To: exDemMom

You got that right. In short, some of those most evil people to ever walk the planet had a high IQ. IQ is important, but is not the determining factor.


29 posted on 04/12/2011 6:04:57 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: TheDingoAteMyBaby

Depends on the definition. My best friend was labeled “slow” at school because his dad was the county drunk.

He now runs an engineering department.


30 posted on 04/12/2011 6:19:40 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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