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Trump claims pro-life conversion ‘years’ ago - despite endorsing Hillary Clinton
LifeSiteNews.com ^ | 11-April-2011 | by Kathleen Gilbert

Posted on 04/12/2011 9:54:16 AM PDT by topher

Trump claims pro-life conversion ‘years’ ago - despite endorsing Hillary Clinton

by Kathleen Gilbert

Mon Apr 11 2:23 PM EST

NEW YORK, April 11, 2011 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Donald Trump has played many roles during his years in the public eye - business magnate, beauty pageant owner, reality TV show host - but few performances have received as much attention as his potential bid to fight Obama for the presidency on the GOP ticket.

Trump now rides a surprising wave of popularity, landing a weekly appearance on Fox News as he rises in the polls on a platform focused on challenging President Obama’s claim to be a natural-born American citizen. In states such as New Hampshire, Trump has been shown to draw significant support away from 2012 hopeful Mitt Romney, a frontrunner for the GOP ticket. In an NBC/Wall Street Journal poll, Trump was second behind Romney and tied with former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.

Despite professing support for abortion for decades, the New York tycoon has now claimed that he experienced a conversion on the issue “a number of years ago.”

“One thing about me, I’m a very honorable guy, okay? And I’m pro-life, but I changed my view a number of years ago,” Trump told Christian Broadcasting Network’s David Brody last week.

Trump said that “one of the primary reasons” he changed was from hearing the story of a friend who didn’t want a baby but chose to keep it. “He ends up having the baby and the baby is the apple of his eye. It’s the greatest thing that’s ever happened to him. And you know here’s a baby that wasn’t going to be let into life,” he said. “And I heard this, and some other stories, and I am pro-life.”

However, as late as 2007, Trump endorsed top pro-abortion personality Hillary Clinton as well as pro-abortion former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani for the Democrat and Republican 2008 presidential tickets, saying that they “both would do a good job.”

“I know them, Rudy and Hillary. I think you really have some good candidates,” Trump said in a Larry King Live interview October 15, 2007.

Trump’s donation record is all over the board, with small donations going to pro-life Republicans such as 2008 GOP presidential candidate John McCain, Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn, and George W. Bush, as well as pro-abortion Democrats such as Hillary Clinton, Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida, and Senate leader Harry Reid.

The New York Times reported in February that Trump also gave former Obama Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, another 100% pro-abortion rated politician, $50,000 for his successful mayoral bid in Chicago.

Politicians familiar with Trump say that his flashy and aggressive campaign makes sense for the flamboyant financier - but not because he’s serious about his political views.

“I know Donald a long time. I never take him seriously. I don’t think he’s a serious candidate,” former Staten Island Congressman Guy Molinari told the New York Post.

Even New Jersey Republican governor Chris Christie, a GOP cult favorite for 2012 despite repeatedly stating he wouldn’t run, gently dismissed Trump’s campaign as being of a piece with his publicity-hungry personality.

“Donald’s a really good friend of mine. I don’t know that Donald really wants to be president,” said Christie in an ABC News interview. “I’ll believe it when I see it. ... He’s very outspoken, and he loves to be on the stage and to express his opinions.”

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KEYWORDS: 2012; abortion; donaldtrump; hillary; prolife; trump
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There is a college in Manhattan that is now a former Catholic College for inviting Hillary to speak there...

I guess Donald will try to split the Democrats and Republicans to get a Democrat elected (ala Ross Perot).

1 posted on 04/12/2011 9:54:22 AM PDT by topher
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To: topher
Donald as a Hillary fan 4 years ago:

From the article:

However, as late as 2007, Trump endorsed top pro-abortion personality Hillary Clinton as well as pro-abortion former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani for the Democrat and Republican 2008 presidential tickets, saying that they “both would do a good job.”

2 posted on 04/12/2011 9:56:08 AM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- are the values that time has proven them to work)
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To: topher

He claims a lot of things, I still can’t trust him.


3 posted on 04/12/2011 10:00:09 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (It's not so much where, but to whom.)
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To: topher
Trump will say anything in his pandering to conservatives. Trump announced his conversion on abortion at CPAC in February of 2011. That was two months ago. Came at the same time Trump said he might run for potus. The truth is, Trump remains a lifelong liberal who is pro-abortion, supports gun control, universal health care and favors hate crime laws for homos.

If anyone wants to understand the real Donald Trump, read his book, “The America We Deserve”.

4 posted on 04/12/2011 10:06:01 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: topher
I guess Donald will try to split the Democrats and Republicans to get a Democrat elected (ala Ross Perot).

that's beginning to look like the plan.

He's said that if he doesn't get the republican nomination, he'll consider running Independent.

He's been a predominantly Democrat funder/supporter, was for Hill, etc. Bubba won without a majority because Perot (who ended up with massive gov't loans for his business - pay off for a job well done?) - split the ticket.

So this is looking like a Perot-redeaux. It worked for the Clintons once. Unfortunately, Americans would fall for it again.

We need to be VERY sure we run a candidate that can overcome the split.

5 posted on 04/12/2011 10:09:32 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: topher

If we Pro-Life voters cannot see that the way to attack the free usage of abortion as birth control, is to shrink the govt back to its Constitutional size, that there are too many big govt “conservatives” in the movement. We must be willing acknowledge that the goal is control of this big govt so you can rule from the National level. By doing that we have ceded the argument to the Progressive/Liberal/Democrat left. We don’t mind the big govt, we just want to argue over what view drives the machine. Pro-lifers don’t need to abandon the goal, we just need to work on shrinking the size and reach of the central govt. Once that is done, the fight would move to local and state levels. That is a much harder thing to do. We would have to accept that California has abortions, but maybe Utah or Texas don’t. You see, the enemy is not the policy, but the very ability of what used to be seen as a “foreign govt” (FED) to mandate state decisions, and spending.


6 posted on 04/12/2011 10:13:02 AM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: topher
"And you know here’s a baby that wasn’t going to be let into life,” he said. “And I heard this, and some other stories, and I am pro-life.” "

Being swayed by an emotional story is not a sufficient foundation. There appears to be no underlying core values or logic that drove his decision. That's bothersome.

7 posted on 04/12/2011 10:13:34 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: topher

YES... TRUMP IS ANOTHER PEROT.

LET’S NOT FALL FOR IT THIS TIME!


8 posted on 04/12/2011 10:20:11 AM PDT by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: ozark hilljilly
He claims a lot of things, I still can’t trust him.

Me neither. Especially with his talk about a likely 3rd party run if he doesn't get the GOP nomination. Sounded like an attempt at an offer the GOP "can't refuse."

I'm amazed at how many FReepers are willing to overlook the fact Trump's politics slant to the liberal side. I'm not buying his convenient "political conversion" crap.

I'm all for his stirring up dust about 0bama's BC, ties with Rezko, possible muslim birth, etc... but it doesn't "earn" him a nomination. He has a rather spotty background for which he's going to have to address and I don't think a GOP nominee Trump would have the temperament for the grilling he'd get in the run-up to the election. Damn well bet the media will work some massive opposition research on him, only to hold back until he's nominated. Once the convention comes and goes, they'll launch their attacks. With his ego, do we really think he's going to be circumspect in his dealings with them? He also talks a lot of smack about slapping a 25% tariff on Chinese goods. Does he think the Chinese won't respond in kind? They own a good portion of our debt. As such, they have some bargaining chips in play.

Obviously Trump is looking for a hobby. Why doesn't he just go buy a Senate seat somewhere in 2012 and make one out of that instead?

9 posted on 04/12/2011 10:43:20 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: topher
One thing about me, I’m a very honorable guy, okay?

Oh, are ya now? Let's ask Vera Coking for her reaction.

10 posted on 04/12/2011 10:45:48 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: topher
Chris Christie, a GOP cult favorite for 2012 despite repeatedly stating he wouldn’t run, gently dismissed Trump’s campaign as being of a piece with his publicity-hungry personality.

I am fervently hoping that's ALL it is.

11 posted on 04/12/2011 10:47:31 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: DannyTN
There appears to be no underlying core values or logic that drove his decision

I don't believe he's driven by any core values, aside from contracts and deal closings.

12 posted on 04/12/2011 10:49:49 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Imagine.... a world without islam.)
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To: topher

I can relate to Trump’s position.

Until 6 years ago I didn’t have a position one way or the other.

That was until I saw a book about babies in the womb, which were captured using a fiber optic camera.

That day and in that moment I instantly knew I had to have a position that a fetus is alive and a baby.

I never refer to a baby as a fetus anymore. That is a scientific term but does not adequately describe the life living within a woman.

Besides, If it’s not a baby...You ain’t pregnant.

I am now pro life and pro baby, unambiguously.


13 posted on 04/12/2011 11:02:51 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: topher
Donald Trump

born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Donald Trump is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN unlike Comrade Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama.

14 posted on 04/12/2011 11:07:08 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: Reagan Man

I have. I’ve also read “Think Big and Kick Ass.”

He shows admiration for both sides of the aisle, but he looks at it from a more business perspective than straight politics - which is part of his appeal.

I do think, however, that he’s like a lot of people, not all that ideological, but has been “awoken” politically by Obama.

He hasn’t flipped as much as we think. He’s a typical non-political business type who only cares about a few issues and has relatively little ideology otherwise, but he seems to have had an awakening the last couple years, thanks to Obama. There are a lot of issues he’s probably been rather fuzzy on for a long time, because he just never really thought about them that much until now.

Forget he’s a businessman and media personality for a minute, and forget he’s filthy rich.

Doesn’t he now sound like a lot of people we all know? People who vote, swing voters in many cases, who were always somewhat conservative, but never gave it enough thought to truly know what they were, until recently, when they saw the damage Obama was doing? Isn’t that how the Tea Party movement got started?

Trump is the ultimate tea partier.

Not to mention, while not entirely conservative, the America he describes in the book you mention would be (aside from maybe the healthcare part, which he has changed his view on), would be far better than anything going on now.

He also stated, even back then, that he is not going to run to help someone else win.


15 posted on 04/12/2011 11:09:35 AM PDT by RockinRight (Trump doesn't play stalking horse for anybody.)
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To: topher

I heard part of a Trump interview this morning....he’s pro-life, he’s anti-gay marriage, Obama is a terrible president....I’m afraid he’s playing conservatives like a harp and many, many are falling for it lock, stock and barrel.

His “birther” stuff is amusing but I don’t trust him any farther than I could throw Rosie O’Donnell.


16 posted on 04/12/2011 11:18:48 AM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you gotta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: topher
I think I've seen enough now to say that Trump is running a scam that IS NOT intended to benefit conservatives or Republicans.
17 posted on 04/12/2011 11:24:49 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (Jared Lee Loughner - Disciple of Michael Moore)
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To: RockinRight
I will say this. Capitalism is one aspect of freedom carried to its logical end product and in that regard, Trump has made the most out of his free market enterprises and business endeavors. That makes Trump an egotist and NOT a hero to conservatives.

Neither Trump or Soros are the paradigm of virtue or ethical giants in the history of the human race.

>>>>>>He shows admiration for both sides of the aisle...

You've been listening to the crap that Trump has been spewing and are now infatuated with this creepy lout. Anyone who takes Trump seriously is no conservative. But like Trump, they are FOS!

18 posted on 04/12/2011 11:26:41 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: RockinRight

You’re responding to a confirmed grump, and, as another long time freeper pointed out the other day, a possible troll.


19 posted on 04/12/2011 1:07:21 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: maine-iac7

“He’s said that if he doesn’t get the republican nomination, he’ll consider running Independent.”

Anybody who was taken by him, should know what a phony he is now.


20 posted on 04/12/2011 9:26:17 PM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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