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The Navy's X-47B Will Be So Autonomous, You Can Steer It With Mouse Clicks
Fox News ^ | 13 Apr 2011

Posted on 04/13/2011 8:59:27 AM PDT by mandaladon

To fly the military's baddest, most technologically advanced planes, you once had to have what Tom Wolfe called "that righteous stuff" -- the willingness to strap yourself to a jet-fuel laden machine and push it to the very limits of its mechanical capabilities. Nowadays, unmanned systems have taken the human danger out of some combat missions, though human pilots remain at the sticks.

But not for long.

The Navy's experimental X-47B combat system won't be remotely piloted, but almost completely autonomous. Human involvement won't be of the stick-and-rudder variety, but handled with simple mouse clicks.

Speaking to reporters at the Sea Air Space convention near Washington, reps from both Northrop Grumman (maker of the X-47B) and the Navy said the X-47B would be piloted not by human handlers in some steel box in Nevada, but by 3.4 million lines of software code. The rest of its functions will be able to be handled by non-pilot personnel (or your average child), as they will only require clicks of the mouse; a click to turn on the engines, a click to taxi, a click to initiate takeoff, etc.

For flyboys proudly boasting their nighttime carrier landing cred, the idea is anathema. But given the difficulty and danger of carrier takeoffs and landings, automating them is one way to ensure safety--provided the systems work the way they are supposed to. The X-47B has already taken to the skies from Edwards AFB earlier this year, but this is a Navy plane. As such, it will begin "learning" the ins and outs of carrier operations via simulated takeoffs and landings starting in 2013.

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To: TalonDJ

“You would think a reporter might know the meaning of words.”

Considering the “quality” of modern “reporting”, you’re kidding, right? ;)


41 posted on 04/13/2011 11:49:29 AM PDT by Levante
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To: PapaBear3625

“Now imagine that the only thing a future politician or bureaucrat needs in order to use such a force against domestic opponents is a bunch of people willing to click some mice.

Well, they already have that. I haven’t seen too many military refuse orders least they be prosecuted.


42 posted on 04/13/2011 11:51:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: montyspython

“Humans still need to make decisions”

Only about what are the targets and to shoot or not. The rest is easy enough for technology to handle. In fact, airplanes take off, navigate, and land every day without pilot intervention.


43 posted on 04/13/2011 11:53:14 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: CodeToad
Imagine a fighter that can be turned back on it's senders using information gathered from some well placed espionage dollars and electronic devices.
44 posted on 04/13/2011 11:57:07 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: montyspython

Actually it is. As much as people want to dismiss human fighter pilots they will always be needed for one thing. Funding for new planes. Aviation history is filled with stories of how pilots get the public behind aviation funding by selling it. The public then got on Congress. Barnstorming and air shows are just some of the things that they did and now do to meet that end. The masses aren’t going to rally behind a gadget that’s nothing more than a reusable guided rocket or bomb dispenser.


45 posted on 04/13/2011 12:06:45 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

“Funding for new planes”

Fine. Through some reality into the dreamsicle! :)

That is by far the most significant barrier to unmanned vehicles of all sorts: Politics of pilots. They want to fly machines and they, for now although losing some clout, control the programs to develop new vehicles. I’m a pilot and would love to fly everything out there, but I am also an engineer and develop those unmanned systems. Ultimate capabilities are my goal.


46 posted on 04/13/2011 12:12:02 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: frithguild
Those are artists renderings.

NG did just recently demonstrate two UAVs closing in air as a mock refueling. Others have done it before.

47 posted on 04/13/2011 12:13:29 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (My dream thread: Mormon cop shoots Catholic Freeper's Pit Bull and takes his Macbook Pro.)
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48 posted on 04/13/2011 12:41:48 PM PDT by magslinger (What Would Stephen Decatur Do?)
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To: Paleo Conservative
Thanks PC. I'd like to see some of these teenage joystick flier land THAT baby on an aircraft carrier! lol

The only bomber I loved more was the Convair B-58 Hustler. Man, now that I think of it, the targeting system was inhibited by low computer ability . . .

49 posted on 04/13/2011 12:47:56 PM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: mandaladon

Great. Hope you don’t have any retirement money in Whiskey companies. They’ll all go down the tubes. Computers don’t sit in the club waving their hands in the air to simulate some tricky maneuver saying, “And there he was on my six!”


50 posted on 04/13/2011 12:49:21 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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51 posted on 04/13/2011 12:58:58 PM PDT by magslinger (What Would Stephen Decatur Do?)
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To: Mr.Unique
Those are artists renderings.

Please don't tell me the green death ray is an artist rendering too!

And I though our defense spending was finally ending up with some real cool stuff...

52 posted on 04/13/2011 1:02:48 PM PDT by frithguild (The Democrat Party Brand - Big Government protecting Entrenched Interests from Competition)
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To: TalonDJ
“That is Automation, not Autonomy. You would think a reporter might know the meaning of words.”

YOU might think that, but anyone who's been reading newspapers or news magazines this past couple decades probably wouldn't make that mistake. Besides, the “reporter” took the word spellcheck suggested, or has it set to “automatically” correct spelling with a very limited dictionary...

/S

or maybe not...

53 posted on 04/13/2011 3:45:11 PM PDT by Old Student
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To: CodeToad

“Well, they already have that. I haven’t seen too many military refuse orders least they be prosecuted.”

So, how many unlawful orders have you seen given?


54 posted on 04/13/2011 3:47:16 PM PDT by Old Student
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To: blueunicorn6
“Great. Hope you don’t have any retirement money in Whiskey companies. They’ll all go down the tubes. Computers don’t sit in the club waving their hands in the air to simulate some tricky maneuver saying, ‘And there he was on my six!’”

Nor do they cry “Deadbug!”

55 posted on 04/13/2011 3:49:40 PM PDT by Old Student
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To: Paleo Conservative
I'm glad you included the picture of the B-47 Stratojet. When that plane was unveiled in 1947 it was like a plane 20 years ahead of everyone else: thin, sweptback wings and podded mount J47 jet engines that gave the plane a top speed of over 600 mph, a speed high enough that even the MiG-15 would have difficulty intercepting such a plane.

Indeed, the very configuration of the B-47 pioneered is still around with today's commercial jet airliners.

56 posted on 04/13/2011 3:53:48 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: CodeToad; PapaBear3625
“Now imagine that the only thing a future politician or bureaucrat needs in order to use such a force against domestic opponents is a bunch of people willing to click some mice."

Which raises another issue. Right now our Predator pilots sit stateside while their aircraft cruise over Afghanistan and Pakistan...or at least that's where the pilots are told the aircraft are. For all they know, they could be be over Western Utah...

57 posted on 04/13/2011 4:11:41 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack
For all they know, they could be be over Western Utah...

I would think that a Predator pilot who's theoretically over Afghanistan who sees McDonalds Golden Arches off to the side is going to ask some questions...

58 posted on 04/13/2011 4:16:45 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: PapaBear3625

My point is the pilot is relying on his mission briefing and map database. He may not be where he thinks he is.


59 posted on 04/13/2011 4:25:02 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: RayChuang88
Indeed, the very configuration of the B-47 pioneered is still around with today's commercial jet airliners.

It was very much the prototype for the 707 and the rest of the 7X7 series.

Speaking of prototypes, were the wings on the 367-80 "Dash-80" derived from the B-47?

60 posted on 04/13/2011 4:36:32 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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