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Obama and the Natural Born Citizen Clause
American Thinker ^ | Randall Hoven

Posted on 04/13/2011 11:07:01 AM PDT by ventanax5

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To: cstinem
Well, there is one thing for sure, we have found out what what happens if the president is unqualified.
41 posted on 04/13/2011 1:23:32 PM PDT by ANGGAPO (Layte Gulf Beach Club)
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To: Terry Mross

“This is a dead issue.”

One big problem is that a precedent has been set which is unconstitutional. When McCaskill got SR 511 passed almost unanimously by both Dems and Repubs, they proved the Constitution was just a piece of paper to them. That is why Congress will not hold hearings. They are all guilty. SCOTUS knows it is the fault of Congress and will not get involved. Senate Dems would refuse to cooperate with hearings, etc. In that, you are right until the next election. However, the more that can be exposed about Obama may stop more Dems in the 2012 elections.


42 posted on 04/13/2011 2:03:23 PM PDT by charlie72
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To: Fawn

“How can a real American NOT want to pursue this????”

We do pursue this, but we have been stymied at every turn.
Both Dems and Repubs we elected to stand up for the Constitution betrayed us when they signed SR 511 saying McCain was eligible and Obama was eligible (read the sixth ‘whereas’ in the Resolution (non-binding). Repubs wanted McCain because he could beat Hillary. McCaskill and others (?) wanted Obama eligible. Hillary thought she had enough delegates. Something very important to our history happened at the secret meeting of Congress on Mar. 12, 2008. It was about more than homeland security. Some congressmen were crying and some angry when they left (look it up and be shocked).

SR 511 was presented on April 30, 2008. At the DNC, Howard Dean forced Hillary’s delegates to illegally switch votes to Obama. Was that a conspiracy? Hillary, the Repubs and the nation were snookered.

Congress now cannot hold hearings on impeachment without incriminating themselves (which was McCaskill’s strategy). SCOTUS realizes what Congress did and will not bail them out. The DOJ under Holder/Obama claims citizens have “no standing” because only Congress has “standing.”

Soros and the CIA have bought off the media. William Colby (CIA director 73-76) said they controlled every important person in the media. Obama was/is a CIA agent. (See Wayne Madsen “Bombshell, Barak Obama conclusively outed as CIA agent. Also on infowars.com)

Most people do care whether the Constitution is followed but do little or nothing to express themselves, especially in elections, where it counts. The only thing left is armed insurrection. Obama wants that (a created crisis) in order to assume the military dictatorship power given to him in the Annexes to Continuity of Government, Homeland Security of 2007. He also renewed the 9/11 powers given to Bush. Essentially, we are still under martial law. Congress has refused to review those powers as called for in the bills. We are in greater danger than any time in our history.


43 posted on 04/13/2011 2:33:25 PM PDT by charlie72
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To: ventanax5
I clicked over to the link provided by the American Thinker in December. It's apparently changed.

This is what the American Thinker quoted:

"Even the Hawaii Department of Home Lands does not accept a certified copy of a birth certificate as conclusive evidence for its homestead program. From its web site: ‘In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.'"

This is what HI says now:

"The Department of Hawaiian Home Lands accepts both Certificates of Live Birth (original birth certificate) and Certifications of Live Birth because they are official government records documenting an individual’s birth. The Certificate of Live Birth generally has more information which is useful for genealogical purposes as compared to the Certification of Live Birth which is a computer-generated printout that provides specific details of a person’s birth. Although original birth certificates (Certificates of Live Birth) are preferred for their greater detail, the State Department of Health (DOH) no longer issues Certificates of Live Birth. When a request is made for a copy of a birth certificate, the DOH issues a Certification of Live Birth."

Did the change happen between December and now?

44 posted on 04/13/2011 3:09:58 PM PDT by agrarianlady
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To: ventanax5; rxsid
On Monday, the Supreme Court decided not to hear the Donofrio case concerning whether Barack Obama is a natural born citizen and therefore qualified to be President.

Rxsid, did you know about this?

45 posted on 04/13/2011 3:32:17 PM PDT by circumbendibus (Obama is an unconstitutional illegal putative president. Quo Warranto in 2011)
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To: ventanax5

if the law doesn’t matter, why pay taxes?


46 posted on 04/13/2011 3:36:18 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: circumbendibus
Yeah, got the ping. This refers to a story from 2008.

Thanks.

47 posted on 04/13/2011 3:41:34 PM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: ConjunctionJunction
I thought it was Phil Berg who started it all?

I had thought that, too. So even if he was born in Hawaii with Kenyan bio dad he'd not be qualified the George Soros' MSM always divert to some ridicule "birther." Now it gonna be Donald Trump vs George Soros media.

48 posted on 04/13/2011 4:49:34 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: ClearCase_guy
Interesting theory...Perhaps the states were advised that “Federal Funding” would cease if these ballot “initiatives” passed the legislature and were signed into law..........
49 posted on 04/13/2011 5:19:02 PM PDT by AFret. ("Charlie don't surf ! ")
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To: agrarianlady

It changed in 09, not sure when but I have a link to the original text here. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2703602/posts?page=165#165


50 posted on 04/13/2011 5:47:41 PM PDT by GregNH (Re-Elect "No Body")
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To: ilovesarah2012

I don’t really believe our country has been run by the Constitution for over 100 years... Judicial fiat long ago replaced true constitutional governance.


51 posted on 04/13/2011 8:22:28 PM PDT by AnalogReigns
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To: AFret.; ClearCase_guy

Bingo. Such as Georgia, which was going great guns toward legislation requiring proof of natural born citizenship, only to have the reps back off one by one.

Georgia is in competition for Savannah to be a federally funded deep water port, which would be a huge boost for the local economy.

What are the chances of Savannah still being in the running if the Georgia legislators make Barry produce his long form birth certificate to be on the ballot?

They must have seen Barry’s handwriting on the wall, because they apparently got his message.


52 posted on 04/13/2011 9:00:15 PM PDT by GGMac ((lesson learned re Obie: parse every sentence, every word, every gesture, every photo))
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To: cstinem
That sounds great! But how do you intend to force a corrupt SCOTUS to hear even one case on Zer0's eligibility? The US court system is rotten to the core...and the core = SCOTUS. Stick a fork in the good ole' USA..she's just about done.

Corrupt Judges Obstructing Justice & Democracy Threatens Entire Judicial System - The Cost of Courage - The Story of Richard I. Fine

53 posted on 04/13/2011 10:35:10 PM PDT by ResisTyr ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God " ~Thomas Jefferson)
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