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Burqa ban turns a right into a crime
CNN ^ | 4/13/2011 | Sarah Joseph,

Posted on 04/13/2011 5:09:38 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty

The ban imposed by French President Sarkozy on wearing a face-covering veil, or niqab, is simply dangerous gesture politics, representing little more than pandering to the far right in France. The full force of the state is coming down on fewer than 2,000 Muslim women out of a population of 6.5 million French Muslim citizens. For what purpose? We are told it is for security, the preservation of "French values" and to alleviate the oppression of women. For security purposes, women who wear the veil should be ready to remove their face covering in places where security and identity checks are necessary, such as airports. The argument that criminals could abuse the niqab is not compelling enough to deny the fundamental freedom of religious expression to a group of French citizens -- or indeed visitors to France.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: defense; islam; islamofascism; terrorism
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Actually I'm a bit in agreement with the argument. However, given the potential for terrorism with a full-body, full-face garment, I have to side with the French government. Viva Sarkozy! lol
1 posted on 04/13/2011 5:09:42 PM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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To: PreciousLiberty

At least in this one tiny area, France is not in full surrender mode.


2 posted on 04/13/2011 5:10:56 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Yeah, sorta like curfews.

Park closings at 10 pm, anti loitering laws, security gates and guards, locked doors everywhere now. Yeah, we all used to have “rights” to generally go as we pleased, where we pleased.

But crime and radical Islam has helped turn our rights into crimes. But the author here seems to miss that point.


3 posted on 04/13/2011 5:13:37 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat ("Celebrate 'Civility'")
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To: PreciousLiberty
I understand the sympathy to the argument against the government messing with anyone's rights to wear what they want to. This article in the National Review convenced me that the ban was not only a good idea, but a critical step in blunting the growth of militant islam. I'm curious if you find it persuasive as well.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/243587/ban-burqa-claire-berlinski

4 posted on 04/13/2011 5:14:54 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: PreciousLiberty

“Actually I’m a bit in agreement with the argument. “

It’s a free country and a Free Republic, but even so, I WILL NEVER support allowing this crap. I see it here in the US now...it is sickening. Women should not have to wear GREENHOUSES to walk in public and the men that force that are no different than wife-beaters that do it for sport.


5 posted on 04/13/2011 5:16:49 PM PDT by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts))
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To: PreciousLiberty

Our Christian founders walked around with swords and firearms. I think we all should be able to do that in order to protect ourselves and our loved ones from those that would break the 10 commandments and injure or murder them.

Screw burqas. Islam is a worldview not jsut a religion. It’s a threat to all other forms of government because islam replaces other governments as a theocracy.

If anyone wants to talk about driving out a certain group of people from a country, start with muslims.


6 posted on 04/13/2011 5:17:33 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Shove it up your smelly Obama, CNN.


7 posted on 04/13/2011 5:22:42 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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A Sean Hannity show guest said that wearing a burka is NOT a religious requirement. He said that wearing a burka is a cultural requirement. Also, wearing a disguise is NOT a right.
8 posted on 04/13/2011 5:24:08 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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Wearing a cross is not a religious requirement either.

This opens the door for anything remotely tied to religion to be banned in public.


9 posted on 04/13/2011 5:27:45 PM PDT by Domalais
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To: MrShoop
I find it very persuasive (not that I needed persuading). Especially this:
But the burqa is simply the extreme point on the continuum of veiling, and all forced veiling is not only an abomination, but contagious: Unless it is stopped, the natural tendency of this practice is to spread, for veiling is a political symbol as well as a religious one, and that symbol is of a dynamic, totalitarian ideology that has set its sights on Europe and will not be content until every woman on the planet is humbled, submissive, silent, and enslaved.

10 posted on 04/13/2011 5:29:38 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: PreciousLiberty

If wearing a burka is a right, so is going topless for women.


11 posted on 04/13/2011 5:30:25 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

Only 0.03% of muslim women are affected by this ban. 99.97% are not. What’s the issue? France is right in wanting to protect its citizens.


12 posted on 04/13/2011 5:32:43 PM PDT by Keen-Minded
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To: PreciousLiberty


13 posted on 04/13/2011 5:36:44 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
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To: Domalais
Wearing a cross is not a religious requirement either.

This opens the door for anything remotely tied to religion to be banned in public.


You equate someone wearing a cross to someone wearing a burka. Please return to DU.

14 posted on 04/13/2011 5:55:58 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: PreciousLiberty

I want to walk around naked. It’s my right.


15 posted on 04/13/2011 6:04:22 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Domalais

It’s not religious, it’s cultural.


16 posted on 04/13/2011 6:05:33 PM PDT by DManA
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To: DManA

Put a ski mask on and walk your naked ass into a bank in Paris.


17 posted on 04/13/2011 6:18:49 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: delacoert

Actually, I really don’t object to clothing laws. As libertarian as I am I think its ok for the collective to decide that for me. I think even Ayn Rand was ok with it.


18 posted on 04/13/2011 6:24:57 PM PDT by DManA
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It’s not religious, it’s cultural. Right. You aren't religiously required to wear a cross, and muslims aren't religiously required to wear a burqa. Give the government the power to control one, you give them the power to control both.
19 posted on 04/13/2011 6:35:12 PM PDT by Domalais
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To: Domalais

A cross is an expression of your religion.
A burqa is an expression of your culture.

See the difference?


20 posted on 04/13/2011 6:37:37 PM PDT by DManA
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