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1 posted on 04/14/2011 11:19:15 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
"Law enforcement is going to start drawing their weapons and challenging these individuals, and something bad may very well happen," Coats testified. "I just ask that you take that into consideration."

I do every time I leave the house...

2 posted on 04/14/2011 11:23:06 AM PDT by rockrr ("Remember PATCO!")
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To: Travis McGee; Joe Brower; OXENinFLA

Check the last link. I should have copied it. IIRC, the Florida Sheriffs Association said they preferred open carry when they were debating concealed carry in the late 1980s.


3 posted on 04/14/2011 11:31:09 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
We were discussing the same thing on the OpenCarry Forums.

Link here:

OpenCarry.ORG Forum

5 posted on 04/14/2011 11:35:24 AM PDT by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: neverdem

I would ask him to take into consideration an entirely new field of work.

Seriously.- If the primary response of LEO officials is to start drawing on legal activity I would be concerned in an entirely different direction, namely that of protecting our lawful citizens from the Sheriffs.

and that is an entirely new thing under the Florida Sun.


6 posted on 04/14/2011 11:36:16 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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To: neverdem

Despite having never been arrested or even have received a speeding ticket the Hillsborough Country Sheriffs Dept made it very difficult for me to get my concealed carry permit. It took 5 trys for them to get my fingerprints on the background check card. That was 5 trips to the office.

Even then the State responded that the prints were unusable but by law they were limited in asking for another set of prints.


7 posted on 04/14/2011 11:36:52 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: neverdem
"Law enforcement is going to start drawing their weapons and challenging these individuals, and something bad may very well happen,"

When the rest of us do something knowing that "something bad may happen", the law says we're responsible for the consequences.

8 posted on 04/14/2011 11:36:59 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: neverdem

If some of you can’t believe that a Sheriff would say such an outrageous thing, here is the proof, a YouTube video of the debate in the Florida House of Representatives.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ALgGpTMj8k


9 posted on 04/14/2011 11:41:46 AM PDT by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: neverdem

OK, Marion - ‘fess up! Tell us how much you had to pay that jackass-in-uniform to get him to say that on record?

We know you had to bribe him, ‘cause nobody would say such a thing unless well paid.

I forgot, make that “nobody outside of a locked ward”.

;-)


14 posted on 04/14/2011 11:51:08 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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FL bump.


19 posted on 04/14/2011 12:46:00 PM PDT by cyn (Courage is not the absence of fear, but the mastery of it. ~Mark Twain)
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To: neverdem

We have here the recorded and verified statements by a law “enforcement” officer who claims that he will “draw down” on any legally carrying citizen.

So, now that that is in the record, what happens when a citizen notices this officer and takes pre-emptive measures to defend himself?


24 posted on 04/14/2011 1:00:40 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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Florida Freeper


28 posted on 04/14/2011 1:25:54 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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29 posted on 04/14/2011 1:27:30 PM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: neverdem
How is this not Official Oppression and an overt threat of bodily harm with a deadly weapon?

Toss these a-holes in jail until they figure out where our Rights don't kowtow to their tyranny.

30 posted on 04/14/2011 1:35:49 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: neverdem
Pinellas County Sheriff Jim Coates did, in fact, tell legislators that if the concealed weapons license reform bill (SB 234 and HB 517) passed that law enforcement would be "drawing down" on license holders.

Considerate of him to confess in advance that he's going to act against those who exercise their BOR rights, while they can still put a provision in the bill specifically prohibiting LEO's from doing so, with sanctions.

32 posted on 04/14/2011 2:30:20 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: neverdem
Pinellas County Sheriff Jim Coates did, in fact, tell legislators that if the concealed weapons license reform bill (SB 234 and HB 517) passed that law enforcement would be "drawing down" on license holders.

So he thinks it's OK to draw on someone just because you have reason to believe they're armed. Hmmmm...well, he and his deputies work for us, so our rights are at LEAST as great as theirs in any given circumstance, and he and his deputies have been known to go about armed, so...

33 posted on 04/14/2011 2:32:20 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: neverdem

This mouthy sheriff is just BEGGING for trouble.


42 posted on 04/15/2011 7:33:42 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Let's roll on this gunwalking thing already! NRA <BCC><)
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