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Would a birth certificate matter?
Jacksonville Journal-Courier ^ | 4-19-11 | Steve Hochstadt

Posted on 04/19/2011 8:44:20 PM PDT by technonerd

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To: technonerd

Historian? Mr. Hochstadt is a demagogic dunce.


61 posted on 04/20/2011 1:24:30 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: STE=Q
But I hope Obama allows Hawaiian officials to release his birth certificate. I'd like to see it.

That doubly begs the question ...

Why spend $2 million dollars to hide a $10 LFBC?

62 posted on 04/20/2011 1:28:40 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: technonerd

Listen, uh, Hochstadt. If you want to engange in racial politics that’s fine.

Debate me, little ole nobody from FR. I will happily take listen to you and leave you in a pool of your own creation, that is much like the baby tears you cry when you imagine meeting a real human being who can debate you point for point or cut you no slack for synthetic emotions.

You say the only glass ceiling left in the world is that of the Presidency of the United States?

Really? Really?

LOL

Name another country dominated by whites that would, as a majority, freely elect a black man for their leader????

I can’t think of one and South Africa isn’t even close.

The French?

The Brits?

The Germans?

Any country in South America? The Caribbean? Hell, I just can’t think of any country.

But I look to your input and impute on this important matter in which the rest of us only consider when you bring it up.

Other than that we were fine trying to get Condaleeza Rice to run, JC Watts, Allen West(who is now thankfully in at least one branch of government)

Man, I don’t know who that Herman Cain is but I think he might be a pretty good president, at least, compared to the one we have now. Did I mention he is black?

Probably not and only because his skin color has nothing to do with my decision of who I pick for president anymore than his gender, which I am guessing he is a man.

On the other hand some white chick from a predominantly white state would be a terrific president as would the other white chick by the name of Bachmann.

Honestly, I don’t know I am discussing inherent markers over learned behviors but for their title VIII or Title IX disadvantage.

I think people in general are pretty terrific until they engage in petty descriptions of advantage or disadvantage because of one’s race.

Sorry, I didn’t grow up in your world of racial supremacy and I don’t believe anyone is inherently disadvantaged by their racial identity in The United States of America.

E Pluribus Unum.


63 posted on 04/20/2011 1:32:01 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Batman11

Bookmrking - someone is trying to fight me on this.

**Anyone** - Is there a full list of all the facts (or lack thereof) on FR I can show the Liberal fighting me...??


64 posted on 04/20/2011 3:20:13 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Best Cook on Free Republic! ;-))
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To: TigersEye

Hey - Can you point me where I can find out “for sure” how much 0bama or his Lawyers have truly spent to cover this up...??

I need that info - thanks.


65 posted on 04/20/2011 3:23:25 AM PDT by LiveFreeOrDie2001 (Best Cook on Free Republic! ;-))
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To: technonerd

Yeah Like Dan Rather Never Believed W ever Finished his service in The Air National Guard,They had his Dental Appt Records,They Talked to His Commanding Officer etc. Etc.. Go Take a Hike,nothing will ever Convince those Nuts in the Democrat Party that George Bush Did not Steal the Election, W cause 9-11,Halliburton ,Halliburton,Bush Frat Boy....


66 posted on 04/20/2011 3:55:02 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: technonerd

Clearly, the amount of attention and money the interloper in the White House has thrown at preventing the world from knowing about his true birth record and his past is reason enough to think that he is well aware that he is more likely eligible for deportation as a criminal or enemy combatant than the presidency.


68 posted on 04/20/2011 4:27:56 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: tsowellfan

It’s pretty well know that 0’bs father was a British subject. So we have the SCOTUS, FBI, NSA, CIA, etc. aiding and abeting this scam. They are selling this country out.


69 posted on 04/20/2011 5:26:53 AM PDT by Waco (From Seward to Sara)
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To: technonerd
Is there a significant third group among those who publicly question Obama's birth, the skeptics, who will be convinced when the state of Hawaii produces a document? I might think so, if any birther would talk about another document in this case, the report of Obama's birth in the two Honolulu newspapers in August 1961. How did it get there? Really doubting Obama's birth, rather than jumping on a circus wagon to share in the attention, means explaining how and why that document was created.

No birther has done that.

False.

I read a detailed description of how and why the report of birth appeared in the papers. The two papers shared offices in the same building, and their transcriptions of the official records were identical.

The report, which I have not verified, claimed the researcher concluded the Obama birth announcement came NOT from one of the two big hospitals, but from a local government office where birth claims could be filed by any resident of Hawaii.

Further, the report claimed that the researcher sought and found the birth records of a substantial number of the named (thousands) revealed hundreds of the announcements were relating to births outside of the US.

70 posted on 04/20/2011 5:38:40 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: technonerd
From: cboldt
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 08:55:17
To: editors@myjournalcourier.com
Subject: Steve Hochstadt - Would a birth certificate matter?

        The subject article incorrectly asserts that no "birther"
has explained how the report of Obama's birth appeared in the two
Honolulu newspapers in August 1961.

        See a fairly detailed explanation of how both papers used
(the same) information, provided by the Hawaii Department of Health, at

http://thedailypen.blogspot.com/2011/04/final-report-obamas-birth-announcements.html

FINAL REPORT: Obama's Birth Announcements Fail To Indicate "Natural Born" Status
By Penbrook Johannson - Editor of the Daily Pen

   More than 1200 birth announcements between 1960 and 1965 were
   shown to contain Hawaiian addresses for registrants of births
   outside of the state of Hawaii, including more than three
   hundred in which the child was born outside of the United States.

71 posted on 04/20/2011 6:09:35 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: technonerd

He’s a historian and he gets so much wrong, I doubt his abilities in his field.


72 posted on 04/20/2011 6:19:12 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit; Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.)
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To: technonerd
Birthers demand to see a birth certificate. Would it help? I don't think so. I have a professional interest in this bit of racist politics.

When this idiot pulled the race card, I quit reading. Hey Steve, I have news for you. I had to have a birth certificate to get into schools and the military. My daughter needed a BC to play soccer.

Steve, you have overcharged that race card. Time to cut it up and discard.

73 posted on 04/20/2011 7:42:59 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (TX and MI - When the going gets tough, the dims run and hide.)
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To: technonerd
You left off the "BARF ALERT!"...

However, I do agree -- in one sense: the only BC that could help Øbozo's cause would be one that showed that he had an American Citizen (Stanley Dunham? FMD?) as his father.

Of course, that would expose his entire life (as in "Dreams..." ) for the total fraudulent and ghost-written lie that it obviously is.

~~~~~~~~~~~

BOTTOM LINE: Øbozo is either ineligible due to failure to meet the Constitution's "Natural Born Citizen" requirement -- or he is guilty of felony fraud upon the citizenry of this Nation.

No other alternative exists.

74 posted on 04/20/2011 9:05:39 AM PDT by TXnMA (America's most Orwellian oxymoronic acronym: "DOJ"...)
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To: technonerd
BTW,

Welcome to FR!

IBTZ?

75 posted on 04/20/2011 9:08:13 AM PDT by TXnMA (America's most Orwellian oxymoronic acronym: "DOJ"...)
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To: Arrowhead1952

The Left/Democrat Socialists are consumed by “race”. To many, all that matters is the color of a person’s skin ... that is, the way people who act, talk and write like this columnist practice precisely what they profess to abhor — racism.


76 posted on 04/20/2011 9:13:40 AM PDT by glennaro
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77 posted on 04/20/2011 9:22:08 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Vendome
Name another country dominated by whites that would, as a majority, freely elect a black man for their leader????

That's why I tell them "Sorry, your race card expired on 1/20/09, and it is non-renewable".

78 posted on 04/20/2011 9:37:03 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed

“Name another country dominated by whites that would, as a majority, freely elect a black man for their leader?”

The only other country that as elected by popular vote a member of a minority race as head of state is Peru when they elected an ethic Japanese guy as president.

For the vast majority of nations, electing an ethic minority would be highly unlikely.


79 posted on 04/20/2011 10:32:18 AM PDT by garjog
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To: Onelifetogive
Why do they call this guy "black"?

He has a white mother and is therefore a Mulatto.

80 posted on 04/20/2011 10:34:58 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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