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Michele Bachmann trumps The Donald, declares birther dispute ‘settled’
Atlanta Journal Constitution Blog ^ | April 20, 2011 | Jim Galloway

Posted on 04/21/2011 5:16:03 AM PDT by AAABEST

[SNIP] George Stephanopoulos: Well, I have the president’s certificate right here. It’s certified, it’s got a certification number. It’s got the registrar of the state signed. It’s got a seal on it. And it says “this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”

Bachmann: Well, then that should settle it.

Stephanopoulos: So it’s over?

Bachmann: That’s what should settle it. I take the president at his word and I think– again I would have no problem and apparently the president wouldn’t, either. Introduce that, we’re done. Move on.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bachman; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; notsettled; soetaro
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To: LibLieSlayer
No... she sold her soul to old karl rove and the whispers of promises yet to come.

She was fooled by Stephanopolis....he showed her the certification not the birth certificate....huge difference.

The certification is merely a printout from a database....meaningless for evidentiary purposes.


101 posted on 04/21/2011 7:08:39 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin....The Thrilla from Wasilla)
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To: Dixie Yooper
Obama has aided and abetted, high crimes and treason.The goal is to bring America to her knees so we have no other choice but to except NWO and mother earth. Global warming ALMOST ushered in the global communist dream. It failed.

All of the local American politics makes us feel good IMO.
The fact remains that Obama is golfing and campaigning while we sink to a bottomed out dollar and we are rendered jobless and homeless. It is but a pipe dream that America is still solvent by the time Obama spends a billion dollars to put the nail in our coffin.

But people sell books on political news shows as a puppet dog and pony show and we feel hope. So...Trump makes us feel better that some how it will end.

One does not have to be a rocket scientist to see all of Obama’s ties. There is a reason Farrakhan says he is the ONE they we waiting for. Jeremiah Wright meant it when he said the chickens have come home to roost. We have been had and taken over by radical black theologian communist nations of Islam radicals. It just makes us feel good to think Obama may be stopped.

102 posted on 04/21/2011 7:12:14 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Obama:If They Bring a Knife to the Fight, We Bring a Gun (the REAL Arizona instigator))
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To: AAABEST

One of the questions in the article:

“Do you think President Obama is a socialist?”

Republican candidates with spines should answer:

Absolutely not, 0b0z0 isn’t a Socialist. He IS A COMMUNIST.


103 posted on 04/21/2011 7:15:01 AM PDT by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: faucetman
“Actually NO, she is not right. In your quote of the law it keeps talking about “the CERTIFICATE”. In other words that a certified copy of the “ORIGINAL” “BIRTH CERTIFICATE” is legally the same as the original. DUH. They aren’t going to allow you to have “the original birth certificate”. They give you a copy, and this law is saying that a copy is just as good. A COLB is NOT a “COPY” of the original. Now Hawaii has just changed laws & procedures about birth certificates to be able to TRY to get around having to provide a copy of “the original”. It won’t work.”

Good point. It's easy to get bamboozled when dealing with words.

104 posted on 04/21/2011 7:26:16 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Daisyjane69
The document they are trying to pass through is an ABSTRACT; the document they are hiding is the “40 page insurance policy” if you know what I mean.

The notion that MB did not spit these facts out with complete clarity, given her legal background, to Stephenopolis, is troubling...to say to least.

TV requires sound bites and Trump is the master of sound bites.

No one and I mean no one can provide a legitimate answer to the question posed by Trump's sound bite.


105 posted on 04/21/2011 7:28:43 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin....The Thrilla from Wasilla)
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To: AAABEST
Stephanopoulos: Well I have the president’s certificate right here. It’s certified, it’s got a certification number. It’s got the registrar of the state signed. It’s got a seal on it. And it says 'this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.'

*******

Just some thoughts on the Obama birth certificate displayed by Stephanopoulos:

1. Obama's Fight the smears site: I went to Obama's fight the smears site to look at his short form birth certificate where the number is blacked out.

2. I then went to the FactCheck site that Stephanopoulos often refers to, where the number on Obama's short form birth certificate is NOT blacked out. The article is dated 2008.

3. To me, the Obama short form birth certificate that I see on Obama's fight the smears site does not have a visible seal, RAISED or not RAISED, while, the FactCheck birth certificate suddenly has a barely visible RAISED seal. Why does one birth certificate seem to be missing a seal, while another one---supposedly the exact same birth certificate--suddenly has a visible RAISED seal? What is going on?

4. I can't help but find the following information funny: Famous tv person Stephanopoulos and other famous tv people have to go to obscure, lowly website FactCheck---Stephanopoulos refers us to the FactCheck article published in 2008, which is about 3 years old---and Obama's own fight the smears site to download a copy of Obama's so-called birth certificate.

5. I find the above information so funny for this reason: Stephanopoulos and his powerful, world-wide ABC network and other world-wide news networks like FoxNews, CNN,CBS, and NBC can't obtain their own copies of Obama's short form birth certificate because Obama won't give it them, even though the one displayed on FactCheck is from 2008, which is about 3 years old.

6. So instead of being able to confront people like Trump with their own copy of Obama's short form birth certificate, these powerful, giant world-wide news organizations have to go to an obscure, tiny internet website that most people in the world---especially those people who have no access to a computer and the internet--- have never heard of to download a so-called copy of Obama's short form birth certificate that is about 3 years old whenever they need one to hold up to people like Trump and Bachmann.

7. My point is this: I don't understand why in the past 3 years Obama---out of a sense of being courteous---has NEVER sent a copy of his short form birth certificate---one with a raised Hawaii seal---to all the major networks so that they don't have to continually humiliate themselves by having to download one from FactCheck and/or Obama's fight the smears site every time they needed one.

8. Yes, if I were the head of a major news organization like FoxNews and CNN, I would be so angry that even after 3 years have passed since FactCheck supposedly examined Obama's short form birth certificate, the Obama camp has yet to send major news organizations their own copies of Obama's short form birth certificate--- one with the Hawaii raised seal---so that major news organizations didn't have to download a copy of Obama's short form birth certificate from either obscure FactCheck or from Obama's fight the smears website.

Yes, I would be very angry indeed at the way the Obama camp was treating me, if I were a top official at a major news organization like FoxNews and CNN.

9. I can't help but find it very weird behavior that the Obama camp is still reluctant to send major news organizations and tv networks their own Obama short form birth certificate after 3 years have passed since they allowed obscure FactCheck to touch and examine it up close.

10. And I bet that the news networks won't get their own copy of Obama's short form birth certificate before election day Nov. 2012 no matter how much or how hard they ask Obama's camp for a copy.

11. To me, if the Obama camp never sends the major news organizations a copy of Obama's short form birth certificate that we see on Obama's fight the smears site, then I can only conclude one thing: The Obama camp does not want major news organizations to get their hands on Obama's short form birth certificate, because the Obama camp fears that the major news organizations will find something wrong with the short form birth certificate that will do serious damage to Obama's presidential campaign.

106 posted on 04/21/2011 7:34:44 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: silverleaf; All

What silverleaf said in post #38.

Times 1,000.

Nuf ced.


107 posted on 04/21/2011 7:38:10 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Birth Certificate Derangement Syndrome - have you been tested??)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2708268/posts?page=15#15


108 posted on 04/21/2011 7:39:09 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: AAABEST
"Bachmann: That’s what should settle it. I take the president at his word and I think– again I would have no problem and apparently the president wouldn’t, either. Introduce that, we’re done. Move on."

Of course, no need to educate yourself on what it means to be a Natural Born Citizen, just take the liars word on it. No need to stand by your oath to uphold the constitution, just politics as usual.

I'm not thinking I want someone this stupid on the ticket.

109 posted on 04/21/2011 7:41:13 AM PDT by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: 101voodoo

I say run with it. Redouble.

Dems have miscalculated. Their strategy only works if we get defensive.

Charge!


110 posted on 04/21/2011 7:41:42 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Birther on Board)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Not saying I disagree with you. What I meant was Bachmann made the correct response at the time she was asked the question and in doing so DENIED the talking point little Stephie so badly wanted.

There are others who will be keeping the subject highly visible.


111 posted on 04/21/2011 7:44:53 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: 101voodoo

Agreed.

I fell for the liberal spun title, and apologize for having been manipulated like that.


112 posted on 04/21/2011 7:46:29 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Birther on Board)
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To: NurdlyPeon
why doesn’t The Donald put up a million dollar reward for an authenicated (by him) copy of the long form.

He may just do that.....at the right time. Remember he wrote the book "Art of the Deal". He will hold back until the time is right. '.

113 posted on 04/21/2011 7:46:38 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin....The Thrilla from Wasilla)
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To: 101voodoo

I’ve been waiting since yesterday for someone else to read that and post the correct conclusion.

She was very direct about using the word, ‘introduced’...which was meaning ‘introduced to make a suit go away’.....

As long as he refuses to do so, the question does remain.

the release of Corsis book should be interesting.


114 posted on 04/21/2011 7:49:06 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to...." ;)
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To: AAABEST

The Bachmann “issue” is now settled for me as well.


115 posted on 04/21/2011 7:54:41 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: kevkrom
People are reacting to the headline, not the actual facts. Steffie claims he has a document that would settle things, and Bachmann basically calls him on it, saying that all Obama needs to do is submit such a thing and that should settle the issue. Everything else is fluff.

91 posts and yours is the first that gets to the essential substance of the Steffie interview. THANKYOU.

116 posted on 04/21/2011 7:57:15 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin....The Thrilla from Wasilla)
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To: cripplecreek

Article and Section, please.


117 posted on 04/21/2011 7:58:19 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: AAABEST

The Bachmann “issue” is now settled for me as well.

Supporting the budget surrender, and now this limp-wristed resistance.

You’ve gotta hand to the Libs - they know how to fight. Palin’s got a fighting spirit, but poor training for the big leagues, and a shrill voice that lacks punch. The Donald is the only one that can stay in the ring and dominate these media turkeys, and that’s what’s needed. The rest of the GOP field are either RINOs or wimps, and neither will serve us well.


118 posted on 04/21/2011 8:03:53 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Dixie Yooper
I'll agree that the birth certificate issue is intriguing, but it is far down the ladder from all the other unconstitutional laws and executive orders that have been shoved down our throats in the past 2 1/2 years

Most people vote on the character of the candidate....issues are normally secondary. The birth certificate issue has the potential of demonstrating that he is a fraud and a liar.

119 posted on 04/21/2011 8:05:22 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin....The Thrilla from Wasilla)
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To: cripplecreek

The Dems are panicking on this Corsi/Trump book, and trying to control the message. The GOP needs to be smart and say that Nancy Pelosi signed off on the citizenship, so he is a citizen. They then need to always ask why the President has spent years and over $2 million to not release his long-form BC, and how they thought the President was going to be transparent.


120 posted on 04/21/2011 8:16:45 AM PDT by Carling (Obama: Inexperienced and incompetent, yet ego maniacal. God help us all.)
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