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Michele Bachmann trumps The Donald, declares birther dispute ‘settled’
Atlanta Journal Constitution Blog ^ | April 20, 2011 | Jim Galloway

Posted on 04/21/2011 5:16:03 AM PDT by AAABEST

[SNIP] George Stephanopoulos: Well, I have the president’s certificate right here. It’s certified, it’s got a certification number. It’s got the registrar of the state signed. It’s got a seal on it. And it says “this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”

Bachmann: Well, then that should settle it.

Stephanopoulos: So it’s over?

Bachmann: That’s what should settle it. I take the president at his word and I think– again I would have no problem and apparently the president wouldn’t, either. Introduce that, we’re done. Move on.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: bachman; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; notsettled; soetaro
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To: cripplecreek; CT Hillbilly; Cboldt; savedbygrace; AAABEST
Constitutionally Bachmann is correct. The constitution lays out eligibility but leaves it up to the party doing the nominating to make that determination.

Incorrect.

The States hold the elections and it falls to the States to determine eligibility of each person who appears on their ballots. This is one duty of a secretary of state in each of the 50 States of the Union.

When Nancy Pelosi fraudulently and perjurously certified to the State of Hawaii by letter over her signature as Great Stone Head of the DemonRat Party, she arrogated power not hers, and infringed the sovereignty of Hawaii.

Hawaii was not going to allow Obama on the ballot. On the eve of the election, Obama made a pretended trip to Hawaii to "visit Grandma" because she was ailing -- NOT !!!

Actually, he was there to attend a hearing, the subject of which was his appeal of Hawaii's refusal to list him on their ballot. The meeting was secret, with God knows what said by whom to whom, and the result was that Obama appeared on the ballot of capitulating Hawaii.

The secretaries of state of the 50 States, if this issue continues to be aired by Trump et al., may indeed exclude Barack Obama from their ballots in 2012.

And why not? If he in fact is a huge fraud, why not?

161 posted on 04/21/2011 1:41:48 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
The States hold the elections and it falls to the States to determine eligibility

Very true and secretaries of state routinely disqualify candidates on various grounds including constitutional ones. Roger Calero was disqualified in several states in 08 due to the fact that he isn't even a citizen.

This is really more a game of protecting the turf of the two major parties.
162 posted on 04/21/2011 1:47:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: AAABEST
[SNIP] George Stephanopoulos: Well, I have the president’s certificate right here.

Georgie Clintonopoulos does what MediaRats do best: Ambush.

Michelle should have refused to comment, period. George had a spurious document (Obama's phonied-up COLB) and he knew it -- he waved a fraudulent document at the congresswoman.

163 posted on 04/21/2011 1:47:56 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: lentulusgracchus
-- it falls to the States to determine eligibility of each person who appears on their ballots .... --

States have in fact excluded names based on SoS eligibility determinations.

But I think it is important to advocate that presidential eligibility is ultimately a function of the US Congress. State voters vote for electors, and the name on the ballot is just a convenience for the voter. The name on the ballot has NO legally binding meaning or significance. Most of us vote for electors; and electors vote for the named candidate for the office. The electors are qualified to be electors. The question of eligibility of the presidential candidate is ultimately a US Congressional function.

And the US Congress is not faithful to the constitution.

164 posted on 04/21/2011 1:49:01 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: cripplecreek
" Politico reported Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee chief Robert Menendez is distributing a memo to U.S. Senate campaign offices stating Democrats need to demand that their opponents answer a series of questions, including, "Do you believe that Barack Obama is a U.S. citizen?" ....

It's amazing, your trying to fool people here to think that this is new news, that article came out over a year ago BEFORE the last election.... nice try though, you had a few people fooled.
165 posted on 04/21/2011 1:53:14 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

I didn’t try to fool anyone. In fact, you’ll see that I later spoke about the tactic being used during the recent election.

In any case when it came out doesn’t matter. Its obviously in effect and obviously working.


166 posted on 04/21/2011 1:58:47 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek

That was the news that came out before the last election, it has nothing to do with 2012 election...


167 posted on 04/21/2011 2:00:55 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: cripplecreek
" In any case when it came out doesn’t matter. Its obviously in effect and obviously working. "

Ohh HOGWASH ! ....
168 posted on 04/21/2011 2:02:31 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Other than the fact that you puppets are dancing to the democrat tune as fast as you can.

Now go away boy.


169 posted on 04/21/2011 2:02:34 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: cripplecreek
" Other than the fact that you puppets are dancing to the democrat tune as fast as you can."

That's a laugh....

Communist refuse to defend, uphold, and protect the United States Constitution...
170 posted on 04/21/2011 2:04:18 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: American Constitutionalist

Better report me. LOL


171 posted on 04/21/2011 2:06:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Wizdum
The rule of law and the Constitution are fundamental. Without rule of law and the Constitution NOTHING else matters! NOTHING! ( wintertime)
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So?...Where does this say that a campaign should be based on the **ONE** issue of Obama’s eligibility? To suggest that I stated that is a deliberate distortion of my post. It is a strawman.

Sorry. I can't defend a strawman argument of **your** creation.

There is nothing that Obama camp would love more than to have the GOP ignore Obama’s eligibility and hidden past. Trump is doing a fine job of jabbing Obama in the nose with the birth certificate issue. The body slam issues ( economic and military) that take him out of the White House will come later in the campaign.

Oh...And, NO! I won't vote for Trump in the primaries but he is doing good work right now in discrediting Obama’s credibility.

172 posted on 04/21/2011 2:26:45 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: AAABEST

She has either been paid off or scared off by the goons from Chicago. He has proved nothing to anybody except that he is a liar and a con artist.


173 posted on 04/21/2011 5:05:48 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: wintertime
Your screed in this and numerous other posts is on the BC. Period. It's your one-note issue, and here's a clue.

It's a loser issue. It makes you look insane. And THAT is what the Dhims want.

If it's all you got, Oblunder can win from the golf course, and not campaign one damn day.

The guy on the unemployment line could care less about the BC. He wants a job. The woman that has to decide between feeding her kids or putting gas in her car so she can work to feed her kids doesn't care about his BC. People that have to decide what is more important do not think about the BC, they think about the money they don't have or the job they need.

If you do not understand that there are issues of far more importance than the BC, then you are lost in your lunacy.

174 posted on 04/21/2011 5:34:48 PM PDT by Wizdum (Wisdom is what you gain when things go wrong.)
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To: Wizdum
I post pure fact and you call this a “screed”. Wow!

You try to divine the mind of Obama and his minions and attempt to formulate nebulous motivations for his irrational behavior. There is a term for that: Conspiracy Thinking!

The Article 2 Section 1 defenders are grounded in reality.

The afterbirthers are the conspiracy theorists of the highest order.

175 posted on 04/21/2011 6:25:35 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: kevkrom

“Settled” as in Gore-speak on AGW?

Bachmann?

All I need to know.


176 posted on 04/21/2011 6:37:56 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: cripplecreek

“we’re being overrun from all sides”

Which does not detract from the heart of this cancer.

Broken Arrow, FRiend.

Broken Arrow.


177 posted on 04/21/2011 6:43:05 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: 101voodoo

That’s true, Bachmann was tarred once before by Chrissie Mathews by needling her into giving them a sound bite they used against her over and over again, like she was some kind of evil witch.

Stephy was looking for the sequel and didn’t get it.


178 posted on 04/21/2011 8:37:25 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

If you do it again there will be no milk and cookies for you.


179 posted on 04/22/2011 2:12:25 AM PDT by 101voodoo
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To: cripplecreek

All I got to say is, The Lord thy GOD of Israel rebuke you..


180 posted on 04/22/2011 3:43:27 AM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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