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The GOP Establishment's Futile Battle Against Donald Trump
The New Republic ^ | 04/20/2011 | Ed Kilgore

Posted on 04/21/2011 6:50:19 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP

During the 2008 election cycle, Mitt Romney was often accused of treating politics more like a consumer-focused business than an exercise in leadership. “My view is, we ought to double Guantanamo,” he said, radiating the sense that if primary voters wanted something, anything, he’d be willing to sell it. His strategists obsessed about creating and selling “Brand Romney.” To many, these efforts made him look like a crass twit, a market researcher’s caricature of the perfect Republican candidate, even as he came in second-place for the GOP nomination. This election, however, Romney may have to compete with Donald Trump.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: nro4romney; oneborneveryminute; perot2point0; pimpingmilt; romney; romney4dnc; romneybotshere; romneyvsgop; romneyvspalin; romneyvstrump; trumped
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To: dirtboy
Don't read me wrong FRiend, we have both been around here for 6 elections. I am a staunch and dedicated Conservative and of course, my opinion of Trump has not changed since his big media splash with Ivana.

The article points out in part, why Trump is making such a major impact this time around and it is based on a Populist attack on the GOP establishment AND the National Socialist Democrats. He is ripping the two of them a new one and I love every minute of it.

Would I support him in the Primaries, probably not, if there is a true Conservative who can win in the race. If he wins the nomination, most of us have no other choice than to vote against Obama. But I can guarantee that I would never support Trump in the Primaries, for any reason.

41 posted on 04/21/2011 7:46:23 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: Vigilanteman; mentor2k

Good rebuttal. It’s amazing that mentor2k would even attempt such a lame-assed post on FR.


42 posted on 04/21/2011 7:46:31 AM PDT by dirtboy
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

“Trump is proving that he has the metal to endure the attacks and rise above them, using them to his advantage.”

Is he? I figure he’s skating by because no one takes him seriously. Libs use him to make us look foolish, and RINOs use him to scare people away from Birtherism and related heresies. Maybe they should fear him a little, given the case of Ross Perot.

However, I don’t think Trump can manage even that. Which is not to say his xenophobia, protectionism, and imperialism aren’t genuinely popular, at least in a fleeting sense. It’s just that China-bashing is less of the moment than the deficit, inflation, and job growth. Trump is clearly on the wrong side of all that. Unless you take seriosuly his claims that we can simply choke enough money from the globe to cover our largess, and no one does.

Populism is always an option, but it’s gotta be the right sort of populism. Defending Medicare and the stimulus at this point is not a winning formula.


43 posted on 04/21/2011 7:46:40 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Do you even read what you yourself write?

Check the quote I put up from your post. That's naive beyond words, and yes, pretty damn supportive of his potential candidacy, binkie.......

So far, you've never admitted to the three things I've posted to you about his past, you've never even addressed them. Cheerleading his successful breech of the Bambi facade is a great thing, ignoring his past liberal tendencies is not.

44 posted on 04/21/2011 7:48:35 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: glennaro

and Trump does not appear to have the irrepressible need to be loved by the MSM and the DC elite as do so many career politicians on both the Right and the Left.

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Hilarious.

As my father always said, there’s no such thing as bad publicity (unless you are found between the sheets with a live boy or a dead girl)

Trump knows that full well.


45 posted on 04/21/2011 7:48:49 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dirtboy
Compare that to Palin, who has actually taken on the corrupt establishment in her state on several occasions. Yet Trump the check-writing appeaser is the fighter. Go figure.

To which it should be added that Sarah enthusiastically took on corruption in her own party, despite great personal career risk. Including the senior U.S. Senator from Alaska.

46 posted on 04/21/2011 7:49:10 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: dirtboy
But that also indicates that Trump is hardly the fighter that some make him out to be. He would rather write Dem politicians a check than stand up to them.

You have to pick and choose your battles. I imagine Trump can fight fine when he wants to do so.

Too often, rich people or businesses give money simply because a politician asks for it. They figure they might need access someday, so like I said, it is a business decision. I have had corporate clients who detested liberalism give money to liberals who they thought were in a position to influence their business. It is nauseating, but again, how the game is played.

47 posted on 04/21/2011 7:49:21 AM PDT by freespirited (Truth is the new hate speech. -- Pamela Geller)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
I agree, but think Trump has mettle.
48 posted on 04/21/2011 7:50:33 AM PDT by Plutarch
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To: Tublecane

“xenophobia”
“protectionism”
“imperialism” (haven’t heard that one in a while)
“birtherism”
“China-bashing”

Sheesh you left out Yankee Running Dog.

Anti-American freetrade globalist agenda much?...


49 posted on 04/21/2011 7:51:20 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Birther on Board)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

My thoughts exactly. It is not that I support Trump, it is just amazing the he has nailed this thing so directly and is SPOT ON, in how to approach the Washington Establishment.

He is a blueprint for other candidates to follow, but more importantly, he is paving the way for defeating them once and for all. Both parties!

I still do not think he will run, he is just taking all the heat to allow the Conservative candidates to get it together. But we can sure count on his continued support when the election gets going. And we do owe him some thanks for what he is doing for our side.


50 posted on 04/21/2011 7:52:23 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Trump is simply doing what the old media is covering up. Trump is merely exposing a corrupt and abusive government regime.


51 posted on 04/21/2011 7:52:37 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

“Trump is a bigger man for admitting he was wrong for his past positions in many areas”

A bigger man than who? Basically every politician ever, who, like Romney for instance, are called flip-floppers when they flip-flop?


52 posted on 04/21/2011 7:55:28 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: Vigilanteman

I disagree,

The MSM is attacking Trump much harder than any of the GOP cronies. Look at BOR, Stefanopolis, Levin, etc, they are ruthless and yet he rips them right back and makes them look stupid and small.

Trump is everything we wish our candidate would be in that regard.


53 posted on 04/21/2011 7:57:02 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Trump has turned over a new leaf and has seen the light and folly of the idealistic Leftist myth.

He is genuine this time around. Of course, he still has many issues that need correcting, but his exposure to the Conservative World has worked wonders on him. He is coming around in my opinion.

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On what do you base your opinion? I have no idea what “Conservative World” you speak of. And his change of heart has all come since the 2010 election cycle? In which he spent against, not for, the “Conservative World”, whatever that is.

The lack of leadership in the “Conservative World” is just glaring. Trump is at least the third saviour of the “Conservative World” since the 2008 election cycle. Palin. Bachmann. Trump.

Who’s next, I wonder?


54 posted on 04/21/2011 7:57:40 AM PDT by dmz
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To: dirtboy

Wrong.

I am not endorsing him, just pointing out what he has done to move so rapidly to the front. We all wish a true Conservative would have such spunk. That’s all, nothing more than that.


55 posted on 04/21/2011 8:00:22 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: C. Edmund Wright

“I see the battle against Trump coming from a lot of folks who love what he’s doing now but who see him as far more liberal or incoherent and inconsistent than almost anyone else in the field. He’s bold, successful and fearless.”

If you’ve seen Karl Rove on Fox, you’ll have noted that he’s crapping little green apples over Trump. He really doesn’t know what to do about him. Funny to watch the “King Maker” all knotted up over this, LOL !


56 posted on 04/21/2011 8:04:52 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

“’imperialism’ (haven’t heard that one in a while)”

That’s because most people are too smart to demand we confiscate Iraq’s oil as compensation for conquering them. I don’t use words like these liberally. Trump is, if he believes what he says, a true blue, Rhodes-esque imperialist, of the sort that you don’t see much anymore.

“Sheesh you left out Yankee Running Dog.”

I have no idea what that means, but if the shoe fits, he wears it.

“Anti-American freetrade globalist agenda much?”

Yes.


57 posted on 04/21/2011 8:04:55 AM PDT by Tublecane
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Well, I kinda hope he’s genuine too (who else is talking about bringing jobs back from China???), but I’m keeping him on the probation list for the time being.


58 posted on 04/21/2011 8:09:15 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (What if God doesn't WANT the Gospel rescued from fundamentalism?)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Much better likeness of the idiot savant.
59 posted on 04/21/2011 8:09:44 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Tublecane
There is a difference, Trump changed and declared it up front himself with a volunteered apology for this past. He admitted he was wrong and was honest about his past position on Abortion.

Romney did nothing of the sort. He merely declared he was “Pro Choice” when it was politically advantageous among his Democrat constituents, and then suddenly became “Pro Life” when asked by Conservatives about his position during the ‘08 elections. Romney is a lying Chameleon.

60 posted on 04/21/2011 8:10:26 AM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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