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Getting Real About Obama's Chances, Part 1
RealClearPolitics ^ | April 21, 2011 | Sean Trende

Posted on 04/21/2011 10:54:32 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: I still care

Of course we have been in a financial meltdown for some time; forestalled only by massive borrowing and printing of money which only serve to hastens a final collapse.


51 posted on 04/22/2011 4:59:31 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Well they are right regarding one thing, the current Repub field is a joke, a bunch of lightweights and Osama will have little difficulty defeating any of them.

We have to get serious about a candidate or Osama is guaranteed four more years.


52 posted on 04/22/2011 5:00:02 AM PDT by Wyatt's Torch (I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.)
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To: neverdem

There’s an email going around which is an article by Walter Williams explaining why Hussein absolutely WILL win the next election. It details the demographics of the loser-retarded-lazy citizenry that will make this happen. If I saved the email I’ll post the text later on.


53 posted on 04/22/2011 5:11:21 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: exnavy

As another exNavy man I agree, I think there is almost no chance of Obama being legitimately reelected but there is a great chance of his being fraudulently returned to office. We are in danger of having the kind of “elections” that are famous in places like Castro’s Cuba.


54 posted on 04/22/2011 5:48:38 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Trying to reason with a liberal is like teaching algebra to a tomcat.)
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To: neverdem; All

These must be the numbers the Liberal Media, Liberal RINO GOP, Liberal RINO GOP Media, are basing on to attack Birthers

These numbers will hold up if the Liberal RINO GOP and Liberal RINO GOP do not start taking the Obama Eligibility issue seriously


55 posted on 04/22/2011 6:52:07 AM PDT by UCFRoadWarrior (Karl Rove = Karl Marx)
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To: neverdem

Received this in an email by Dr. Walter Williams:

No Matter What
By Dr. Walter Williams

Can President Obama be defeated in 2012? No. He can’t. I am going on record as saying that President Barak Obama will win a second term. The media won’t tell you this because a good election campaign means hundreds of millions (or in Obama’s case billions) of dollars to them in advertising.
But the truth is, there simply are no conditions under which Barak Obama can be defeated in 2012.

The quality of the Republican candidate doesn’t matter. Obama gets reelected. Nine percent unemployment? No problem. Obama will win. Gas prices moving toward five dollars a gallon? He still wins. The economy soars or goes into the gutter. Obama wins. War in the Middle East ? He wins a second term. America’s role as the leading Superpower disappears? Hurrah for Barak Obama! The U.S. government rushes toward bankruptcy, the dollar continues to sink
on world markets and the price of daily goods and services soars due to inflation fueled by Obama’s extraordinary deficit spending? Obama wins handily.

You are crazy Williams. Don’t you understand how volatile politics can be when overall economic, government, and world conditions are declining? Sure I do.
And that’s why I know Obama will win. The American people are notoriously ignorant of economics. And economics is the key to why Obama should be defeated.
Even when Obama’s policies lead the nation to final ruin, the majority of the American people are going to believe the bait-and-switch tactics Obama and his supporters in the media will use to explain why it isn’t his fault. After all, things were much worse than understood when he took office.

Obama’s reelection is really a very, very simple math problem. Consider the following:

1) Blacks will vote for Obama blindly. Period. Doesn’t matter what he does. It’s a race thing. He’s one of us,

2) College educated women will vote for Obama. Though they will be offended by this, they swoon at his oratory. It’s really not more complex than that,

3) Liberals will vote for Obama. He is their great hope,

4) Democrats will vote for Obama. He is the leader of their party and his coat tails will carry them to victory nationwide,

5) Hispanics will vote for Obama. He is the path to citizenship for those who are illegal and Hispanic leaders recognize the political clout they carry in the Democratic Party,

6) Union members will vote overwhelmingly for Obama. He is their key to money and power in business, state and local politics.

7) Big Business will support Obama. They already have. He has almost $1 Billion dollars in his reelection purse gained largely from his connections with Big Business and is gaining more everyday. Big Business loves Obama because he gives them access to taxpayer money so long as they support his social and political agenda,

8) The media love him. They may attack the people who work for him, but they love him. After all, to not love him would be racist.

9) Most other minorities and special interest groups will vote for him. Oddly, the overwhelming majority of Jews and Muslims will support him because they won’t vote Republican. American Indians will support him. Obviously homosexuals tend to vote Democratic. And lastly,

10) Approximately half of independents will vote for Obama. And he doesn’t need anywhere near that number because he has all of the groups previously mentioned. The President will win an overwhelming victory in 2012. — Dr. Walter Williams


56 posted on 04/22/2011 7:16:00 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: MayflowerMadam
Well, if Williams is right (and I don't doubt too much that he is) then we get what we deserve.

And you know, I am almost, almost to the point where I am accepting of the pain and hardships to come just to know these people will finally get what they've worked so hard to bring to us all. I relish the thought of them eating tree bark.

57 posted on 04/22/2011 7:21:37 AM PDT by riri
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To: MayflowerMadam; wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; ...
Received this in an email by Dr. Walter Williams:

I usually enjoy Dr. Williams analyses, but I believe he's wrong here, comment# 56, for a number of reasons, all of which explain why the GOP got 60 % of the white vote last November, the first time in history. There's no reason to think that percentage will go down, and whites are 75 % of voters.

Here are some links to explain my reasoning:

Violence in another Mc Donalds almost kills customer More black on white violence on video!

The Country’s in the Very Best of Hands - It’s Li’l Barry, the musical, starring Barry Btfsplk Remember Li’l Abner by Al Capp?

Mark Steyn: The Human Right Not To Be “Offended”

Poll: Most Americans oppose raising debt limit

Some noteworthy articles about politics, foreign or military affairs, IMHO, FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

58 posted on 04/22/2011 10:23:52 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Obama will win unless he is relentlessly, even brutally, for the next 18 months.

Does anyone here seriously believe Pawlenty, or Huckaphony, or Romney, or any other MSM-loved wannabe is up to the task?


59 posted on 04/22/2011 10:33:10 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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Relentlessly, even brutally, ATTACKED


60 posted on 04/22/2011 10:52:50 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: Jim Noble

Did you read the last paragraph in the excerpt? Obama’s support is softer than a pillow. Check the links in comment# 58, if you please.


61 posted on 04/22/2011 11:07:03 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

Reading various threads on this forum alone, if I had to lay $ down on a ‘12 bet, I’d go with Obama. Conservatives just can’t seem to get it together. Palin’s not electable. Trump’s a clown. Romney’s a RINO. blah blah blah.

Obama is as vulnerable as it gets, but the Dems and their cohorts in the MSM will be united behind him. Conservatives can’t even seem to agree that today is Friday. And, everyone seems to think that THEY are the very portrait of conservatism. Anyone with a slightly more liberal take a single issue is a RINO for whom they will NEVER vote.

I fear ideological purity could give us 4 more years of Brackets. And we will have absolutely no one to blame but ourselves.


62 posted on 04/22/2011 11:17:33 AM PDT by EDINVA
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks neverdem.


63 posted on 04/22/2011 11:37:58 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: neverdem
Would you be so kind to repeat how to fix a text filled with relative hyperlinks so that they are converted to absolute hyperlinks?

I should have saved it then. I’ll try to save it now.

You need to go though the page, find all the relative URLs, and change them to absolute URLs by prepending to each the host name of site which hosts the page you are working with.

The problem arises when you attempt to post on FR HTML code excerpted from a page hosted somewhere else. E.g., if you go to the Google homepage, there is a link towards the bottom entitled About Google. If you inspect the source code for the page (in Firefox, select the link text and the select View Selection Source), you will see:

<a href="/intl/en/about.html">About Google</a>

That won't work if you copy and paste it as is into a post on FR. However, if you first run the following script against the Google homepage, the link will be made absolute and suitable for use on any site:

javascript:
var links = document.links;
for (var x = 0; x < links.length; ++x) links[x].href = links[x].href;
var pix = document.images;
for (var x = 0; x < pix.length; ++x) pix[x].src = pix[x].src;
void 0;

What that does is, run through the links and images on the current page and change the link associated with each to absolute (if it wasn't already absolute). At first glance, assigning something to itself would appear not to do anything. However, when you retrieve the URL from a link or image object, the object provides you with the absolute version, even if it's keeping a relative URL internally. So, the end result of the above is to assign the absolute version of the URL to each link and image.

Now, the obvious question is, how do you conveniently run that code on a page you are about to excerpt? The answer is to house the code in a bookmarklet. I'd put one here, except FR filters out JavaScript. However, there is an Absolutify bookmarklet on this page. To install it, drag the Absolutify link to your Bookmarks Toolbar. Then, when on a page you want to excerpt, click your Absolutify link before using View Selection Source or similar. If you do that on the Google homepage and then select the source for the About Google link, it should now read:

<a href="http://www.google.com/intl/en/about.html">About Google</a>

That link should work from any site.


Of course, there are other challenges in transferring HTML. They mainly have to with the heavy use of style sheets to define a page's appearance. The basic HTML tags work on FR, but FR filters out CSS even if you manage to copy it. So, you may have to approximate the original page's appearance by inserting some basic tags. E.g., a page might contain something like this:

<div class="sectionHeading">Early Life</div>

The identifier sectionHeading refers to a style sheet specification somewhere that details exactly what font face, size, weight and color to use for section headings. To put that in a post on FR, you'd have to settle for an approximation of the original appearance, for instance using an H3 tag or similar.

64 posted on 04/22/2011 11:53:13 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: MayflowerMadam
Received this in an email by Dr. Walter Williams:

No Matter What
By Dr. Walter Williams

Can President Obama be defeated in 2012? No. He can’t. ...

If that prediction were actually written by Dr. Williams, it might merit a second thought. However, it seems, he didn't write it!

65 posted on 04/22/2011 12:20:01 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody
You need to go though the page, find all the relative URLs, and change them to absolute URLs by prepending to each the host name of site which hosts the page you are working with.

That's my usual custom, but there are times when I find dozens of relative links in a single text.

Wasn't there a way to save the webpage to a new file, and then retrieve it after one or two other commands with all the relative links converted to absolute.

You sort of lost me with the rest of your reply, but thanks anyway. I appeciate all those key strokes.

66 posted on 04/22/2011 12:32:47 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: EDINVA
Reading various threads on this forum alone, if I had to lay $ down on a ‘12 bet, I’d go with Obama. Conservatives just can’t seem to get it together. Palin’s not electable. Trump’s a clown. Romney’s a RINO. blah blah blah.

Ws need to draft Scott Walker, the governor of Wisconsin who just made the rats go nuts.

The rats put everthing they had into the election for the Wisconsin Supreme Court, but Prosser won anyway.

Let Walker be the face of the Tea Party, and we'll keep the majority of the independents vote.

67 posted on 04/22/2011 12:41:48 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem
Wasn't there a way to save the webpage to a new file, and then retrieve it after one or two other commands with all the relative links converted to absolute.

You can save the page to a disk file. I tried that in one or two cases before inventing the bookmarklet, which is what I've used since.

If you save a page as "Web Page, Complete", it will save the HTML to a file and copy the images, etc., into a folder named after the HTML file. If you look inside the saved page, you will see that the links have been made absolute. However, the image URLs now all point into the page's companion disk folder, which means the image tags are no good for posting.

An alternative is to save the page as "Web Page, HTML Only". That leaves the links and image URLs unchanged. However, then you need a way to make the relative ones absolute without doing a lot of work. A possibility might be a global change in your favorite text editor. E.g., you could have your editor change every occurrence of href="/ to href="http://www.somewhere.com/. And similarly for src="/.

However, using text editors to make global changes can lead to unexpected results. I find it easier to click the bookmarklet, then View Selection Source, then copy what I want out of the source window and modify it as needed, the relative URLs having already been fixed by the script in the bookmarklet. For difficult cases, a text editor might come in handy to clean up the HTML, but usually I just paste directly into the posting window.

68 posted on 04/22/2011 2:23:41 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Thank you again!


69 posted on 04/22/2011 3:03:50 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: MayflowerMadam

I respect Dr. Williams, however, I wonder what a wildcard like Marco Rubio or Alan West would do to the ticket?

If the top of the ticket is not Mr. Excitement, we could add some by tapping one of the above.


70 posted on 04/22/2011 9:50:36 PM PDT by happygrl
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To: paul51
"...this clown has no hope at all for re election..."

Really? Sure, he's a hopeless clown. He's worse than that. But the problem is that the Republicans have to run someone. That more than evens things out. Without a total economic collapse--and that's distinctly probable--I think he wins.

71 posted on 04/22/2011 11:45:08 PM PDT by jammer
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To: happygrl

“I respect Dr. Williams, however, I wonder what a wildcard like Marco Rubio or Alan West would do to the ticket?”

Yes; I don’t necessarily agree with Williams’ article, especially after the 2010 election results. Rubio might be good. Alan West would, too, but I doubt that another black candidate would have much success after the the damage done by Hussein. It’s true that race should not be a factor, but many people don’t judge a person on a case-by-case basis, so race will always be in the mix.

In any case, the current non-Hussein slate is dismal: Trump, Huckabee, Romney, Gingrich. We pray every night that God will send us a viable candidate.


72 posted on 04/23/2011 5:00:47 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: happygrl
"I respect Dr. Williams, however, I wonder what a wildcard like Marco Rubio or Alan West would do to the ticket?"

Rubio has ties to the racist organization La Raza. Besides that he is NOT ELIGIBLE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.

MARCO RUBIO IS NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

73 posted on 04/23/2011 5:30:56 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: neverdem

Hasn’t this been categorically established as a hoax put on by MoveOn.org?

http://peregrine5700.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/obama-cannot-be-defeated-in-2012-video-walter-williams-up-from-the-projects/

This one refers to the previous site:

http://www.patriotactionnetwork.com/profiles/blogs/what-dr-walter-williams-says

Has anyone taken the time to verify this with Dr. Williams himself. Is it real?


74 posted on 04/23/2011 5:39:45 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Mitch Daniels?

Another establishment RINO with the charisma of Bob Dole.

No way and no thanks!


75 posted on 04/23/2011 5:47:19 AM PDT by newfreep (Palin/West 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: cynwoody

Thank You for posting that link. I really was incredulous at this article/thread.


76 posted on 04/23/2011 3:56:10 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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