Skip to comments.About the Birth Certificate
Posted on 04/22/2011 8:16:23 AM PDT by UltraConservative
Linked from BenjaminShapiro.com because the link at Drudge has crashed FrontPageMag.com's servers.
Two days ago, Matt Drudge linked to a new book by Jerome Corsi, unflinchingly titled Wheres the Birth Certificate? The book immediately leapt to number one on Amazon.com, where it has remained ever since. The media has shown its usual incredulity at the "indisputable" stupidity of the American people. How could so many people question President Obamas birthplace? How could they wonder about his origins? Are they all simply racist?
The answer, of course, is that Americans are desperately seeking an answer to a simple question: why does President Obama appear to be so un-American? The term un-American here is not synonymous with anti-American (though Obama has been that on occasion); instead, it merely signifies that President Obama is unconcerned with typical American principles and traditions. He sees capitalism as selfish and evil, religion as dangerous and oppressive; he sees the Constitution as antiquated and entrepreneurialism as exploitative.
He is the representative of the Fareed Zakaria ideology at work, celebrating the post-American world.
When America elects a president like this, many Americans begin wondering how it happened. There are always two answers to such difficult questions: the first is optimistically externally-oriented, while the second is realistically reflexive.
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In short..he is very un American..he represents a cancer in this country.
The American people are waking up to this issue of how the democrats could run two candidates in a row who were either un-American or anti-American and who both violated the Logan Act.
Americans want this issue to be fully accounted for and resolution to be found. The Courts must address this issue, the Congress, the media, etc....
What is the Constitutional definition of a ‘natural born citizen’?
Why is Obama and the democrats fighting in Court to conceal all of Obama’s past records?
Yep. The fact of the matter is that many Americans -- even right here on FR -- love Big Government and reject the concept of getting it out of our lives.
No, that is not the answer.
The answer is no man is above the law. Not even the first half black White House resident.
United States citizens have to CONSTANTLY show their birth certificates, so why shouldn’t Obama show his?
No reason. Show it.
Maybe it’s just ‘rope-a-dope’ but what is he hiding???
Release the real full thing, if it exists.
Do you know of a good source link for obama’s court cases, who his lawyers are, etc?
this story needs a good push, needs to ‘go viral’ as they say
Baloney. We are not questioning his eligibilty based on his behavior. We are questioning it because the facts have not been made available to us. It is matter of facts and not perceptions about his behavior (which is a separate issue and also troubling). Either he is eligible or he isn’t. We demand to know the truth - let the chips fall where they may. Congress doesn’t seem to even care. It infuriates me.
Not true if his father is Obama Sr! Do your research please.
This is why the BC issue hurts Obama and MSM is going nuts about it. The issue nails what Americans feel about Obama. This is the squishy fat middle of the road make their mind up in the last week of a campaign. Hit Obama being not one of us, alien to our values, not raised here, not looking out for Ameica first.
Republican candidate: “I won’t bow to any foreign leader. I won’t apologize for America.”
The “Restore America” message will resonate.
America has had it with girly man Obama. They want someone with balls, perhaps even brash. Need to be immune to “go back to Bush” mode.
If Obama tumbles into the 30s approval rating, he may get primary challengers from the left. The BC issue is not only a knock out punch if it lands, it’s a slow jab to Obama’s credibility to hold office. His “cool and aloof” demeanor will be perceived as a lack of any real concern for Americans.
Obama is doing a two step with his rhetoric. He ran as the great united but no figure is more divisive. He ran as the Facebook networking small group spread out the power to the people candidate but has governed Soviet style power centralization. He ran as post racial but plays the race card whenever convenient. There’s no cohesive personality to Obama. He’s President Etch-A-Sketch, defined by whatever speech writer is at work.
Perhaps. But, just to be safe, we need to make sure this issue doesn't suck all the oxygen out of the room.
As an insurance policy, we need to win as many Senate setas as possible.
Preferably with Tea Party candidates.
“Why is Obama and the democrats fighting in Court to conceal all of Obamas past records?”
This, above all, should be a question that all Americans ask. No matter which side you are on, if something is being hidden from the public, it needs to be brought out in the open. To keep hiding it, breeds concern.
It is not just the birth certificate that’s missing - transcripts, passport info, SS number issues, college papers and grades, just about any of his past history.
I couldn’t run for dog catcher in my county if my life was that unknown.
And yet the American people elected this man to lead our country?
I figured it was all over after that unthinkable act.
More like 10% black, 50% white and the rest Middle Eastern.
There are also people that are staunch democrats and will vote for any one who is a democrat. My mother is one of them. I think if hitler were running as a democrat she’d vote for him. My guess is there are plenty of people out there that do the same thing.
This lady sure is dragging in the goods:
Unfortunately, we are unable to confirm/deny without a VALID birth certificate.
And 100% Marxist Muslim loving traitor.
Obama entered the presidential campaign in 2007 with a fully formulated agenda for his first term. Despite the financial chaos beginning in October 2008 Obama has remained fixed on that agenda—Health Care, Cap-and-Trade and Financial reform—aimed at erecting huge new federal bureaus staffed by the politically reliable who will increase union rolls. After signing the income tax cut extension in December Obama said it was finally “time to pivot” and work on job creation. “Jobs creation” was what he was elected to do on Day One.
The US always had a two tier class system, the power elites and everyone else. War between the power elites have been going on since the founding of our country which have culminated in a number of internal fights and wars (American Civil War, etc, etc, etc).
The Dems in 2007 found a candidate that was cool, hip and charismatic that if fielded can help them win big in the House, win the White House and even the Senate. Otherwise settle for an established candidate and win the House and White House by small margin and forget about the Senate. Problem is Obama has eligibility issues, but he is the key for the massive power sweep. IMHO Howard Dean and later Pelosi did the political calculus and opted to risk fielding Obama. Gamble paid off, Dems win big in 2008, birth certificate issue sounds too crazy to believe and the MSM was more then happy to ignore it. The courts were too slow and hesitant to make a decision and Obama gets elected. Once Obama is elected Pres it becomes harder to dethrone him without severe consequences for the Dem power elites, now the entire Dem power elite structure must commit themselves to cover Obama otherwise the loss of political power will be very severe. Every tactic will be employed. Legal, judges, MSM, race card, HI Dem party, etc, etc, etc because the power elites’ asses are truly on the line.
I don’t think the Dems will try this again, because of the stink raised by birthers and Trump, but atleast Pelosi can smile and wink wink at the GOP that the Dems crossed the line, won big and atleast advanced their Progressive agenda while they held power precariously and the country was not able to get a grip on what had happened.
IMHO the birth certificate issue will be solved after Obama leaves office where he will no longer have all the protection. Berg one of the early birth certificate activists pointed out that the best time to expose Obama was before he got elected. It would be harder once he is in office because he has more protection against any legal inquiries. One will have to wait till he leaves office.
Be advised that all over Africa (which is not an "African" concept BTW) various tribes consider themselves superior to their neighbors on the basis of differences in skin color and facial features; differences that are often completely indiscernible by Europeans.
Take Obama Sr.'s tribe, the LUO. They were the Arab's go-to guys in the East African slave trade for hundreds years. They were the tribe that went into the bush to capture slaves for the Muslims. The trade was not suppressed until the years just before WWI, and it was one of the main given reasons for the British Empire officially seizing Kenya in 1905. In fact, the slave trade has never been completely suppressed. Given the commercial relations between the LUO and the Arabs, who in Africa are not a precise racially defined group themselves, there was frequent intermarriage. BTW, many LUO are now Christians. If Aunt Zeituni is a Christian, she would probably actually be a refugee, because there is very bad juju betweren Raila Odinga's jihadists and the Christians in Kenya. His people massacred thousands of Christians.
However, no old African hand is going to mistake a Luo for an Arab. Barack Senior was a pretty typical Kenyan LUO tribesman. He was quite black, did not have the "Nilotic" features of some of the Somali or Ethiopian tribes, was not a Masai, or Watusi, or Dinka, or Kikuyu. He was a Luo. A "black" man from East Africa. Did he have "Arab" genes? Probably. But just because the Luo run around claiming to be "Arabs" is no reason for anyone to believe them.
The fact that BHO, Jr. is rather "pale," is typical of many mulattos, some of whom are more European looking than others. It's no reason to impute heavy "Arab" ancestry to him, just because the LUO do it to get over on their neighbors, who are as black or not, as they are.
Bingo. Why has he spent millions of dollars hiding his past. Hmmm?
What Americans know for certain about this issue, is that there is something about Obama’s original birth registration and the history of any amendments or alterations later made to it, which if it does not disqualify him Constitutionally as President, would in Obama’s own judgment more probably than not disqualify him electorially.
This issue becomes more understandable when it is made clear that based on Hawaii law and regulations the information in a COLB is, as a practical matter, meaningless.
The reason is that there are three (3) levels of information at least in the HI birth records, including original registraation info, the INDEX of data extracted, and the info requested and issued in a COLB, which may quite readily not conform to the original registration nor have been validated by any objective evidence.
There are multiple and myriad ways that the original registration information may have been filed other than a normal hospital birth registration. From a standard hospital birth affirmation, to legally allowed late registrations registrations of foreign born children of Hawaii citizens amendments and alterations of existing birth records, including to modify the existing record for ADOPTION which may include changing the fathers name on the original record. In consequence of these many variations, the original records may be SEALED and not thereafter subject to review at all. Information on the COLB from the modified or altered INDEX may not match in many instances the original registration information. Some original registrations do not require any third party verification but may be made on statement by a parent or other applying person, and if at all may be based on nothing other than a family bible entry.
But the most intriquing example of how a birth registration may have been made in Hawaii prior to 1972, is via a late birth registration (subject to later change or amendment) which at that time could be made solely at the discretion of the director of health on affidavit of a parent or guardian, possibly without any other confirming information. See: Hawaii code of regulations Public Health Regulations Chapter 8 former section 14. Delayed Birth Registration (..additional evidence MAY [or may not] be required). President Obamas original Hawaii registration may well have been based on no more than a statement by his mother or grandparents under then existing law.
Whatever statutory legal presumptions may apply to a COLB under Hawaii law the simple truth is that due to the wide variety of manner and circumstances of registration, past lax evidentiary standards, potential for amendment and alteration such as by adoption, potential sealing of original records..and a COLB based only on Indexed data reflecting the revisions and nothing else.
A significant factor in continuing doubt as to Obamas progeny is the unusual circumstance of no physician or hospital taking credit or being unequivocally named by Obama as his birthplace; and, as well, the seamy and facile way the MSM uses deceit and unfounded nonsense to proclaim unfounded hearsay or rebuttable presumptions have already resolved this issue.
I read the book a couple of years ago "Out of America: A Black Man Confronts Africa" by Keith Ritchburg. While looking for the name of the book, I came across this snippet from a liberal reviewer when it was published:
"...The dust cover of Out of America shows a serious and thoughtful black man, who is quite dark in color. This is important, for it means that, in Africa, Keith B. Richburg is often taken for an African on first view, and subjected to the harassment and indignities which Africans can experience at airports and border crossings and in government offices. Richburg writes of literally waving his passport to impress officials that he is an expatriate and an American. At the same time, we are made to realize how much deference and special treatment white people still receive in Africa, some times and some places...
If you read the book, what he found most completely disillusioning about the experience was NOT that whites are treated differently from blacks, but that racism and an even more deadly variant, tribalism, is rampant between Africans themselves.
Your post reminded me of that book, because people would either open doors or close them, snub or accept him, or even, try to kill him or protect him on the basis of the shade of pigmentation he had (comparatively speaking) or the prominence of various features of his face, eyes, nose, cheekbones, etc.
As I recall, he was devastated by this discovery, that, in Africa, amongst blacks (who he thought should all share a comradeship due to their lack of white skin) there was racism and prejudice much worse than anything he had ever in his life as an American encountered in America.
Again, great post Kenny Bunk...
Prov 29:2 When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.
I hope that Corsi and maybe Trump, by hook or by crook, have broken through the secrecy. Once that damn breaks, hopefully some of the bloggers with more integrity than the MSM will do what they can to focus on the other missing pieces of Obama’s secret past.
“When America elects a president like this, many Americans begin wondering how it happened.”
If Obama was a loyal, true and patriotic American he would be proud to show his birth certificate. The fact that he is deliberately hiding it speaks volumes.
That is the ISSUE!!
Not just the Birth Certificate!!!!
Some Americans are seeking an answer to another simple question: why doesn't he just show his original birth certificate? Isn't it the left that always says, "If you don't have anything to hide, why do you mind the regulation-du-jour, such as gun registration, etc." If he doesn't have anything to hide, why is he so diligently hiding it?
What’s the scoop on the “Birth Certificate” Stephanopoulos was flashing around?
“Maybe its just rope-a-dope but what is he hiding???”
If that is the game he is playing, it’s one sick joke on the American people.
I am guessing it is most likely the COLB (Certification of Live Birth) not the Birth Certificate.
I am not that up on it, but there are key and vital differences between those two documents. Others here probably have a better handle on it.
At one of his town hall meetings, yesterday he mentioned how he was able to attend school because of scholarships. This is the first I’ve heard this tale. What kind of scholarships? From where? From whom? Are those records missing too?
Wonder if one would have a better chance of finding a copy of Obama’s Birth Certificate in Russia?.They do keep a keen eye on every leader.
Every member of Congress is guilty of either
creating this FRAUD UPON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
or guilty of misprision of a felony.
Every member of Congress is responsible for what has
happened, and what is happening.
As an insurance policy, we need to win as many Senate setas as possible. Preferably with Tea Party candidates.
Agree wholeheartedly! Since only 1/3 of the Senate is up for reelection every 2 years, the elections of 2010, 2012 AND 2014 are necessary to get enough conservatives in the Senate to complement the House and provide a CHECK on the Executive and Judicial branches.
Even that might not be enough, but without it there is no real hope, imo.
#1 on Amazon...That’s a mighty big elephant you have in the room there, Barack.
Lips are Nilotic not negro
And the breakdown of Senate seats up for grabs in 2012 is in our favor. I don't know the exact numbers but I think something like 10 Republican seats are up and 23 RAT seats.
I know at least a couple of Republicans are not running for re-election but there are more RATS that aren't which makes those seats even more vulnerable to, heh-heh, change.
Luos ( my iPad spell checker had a brain fart)
Not at all. The voting bloc that put Obama in office was a new voting bloc probably not seen before: the moderate/independent, white Americans who suffered from white guilt and felt so good and self-righteous voting for a black guy. Their 'thoughts; didn't go much beyond that during 2008.
Hopefully, most have recovered from their temporary delusions.
Very interesting, and I accept your thesis.
Worth another posting
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