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Pediatricians say gun privacy bill would muzzle them(FL)(Barf Alert)
palmbeachpost.com ^ | 22 April, 2011 | Stacey Singer

Posted on 04/23/2011 8:26:13 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: DPMD
Q. “Do you have guns in the house”

A. “None of your F’n business”

That is the only response required. Screw em...

41 posted on 04/23/2011 10:57:05 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Natural Born Taxpayer on Board...)
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To: marktwain
.... "I think we as physicians are within our rights to discuss any issue we deem appropriate," ....

Ah, and there is the rub isn't doc. You are a part of class of (elitist) people who are placing your opinions, wants and desires above those of the child's parents and proper care givers. To me that proves you are only interested in your own narrow minded motives, to evolve statism, to join in with the state to deny its citizens perhaps the single most important constitutional right of all the enumerated rights in that document.

You poor enlightened but misguided ignoramus fools, you are being had but those of us who see through your attempts are not going to let that happen.

42 posted on 04/23/2011 11:18:07 AM PDT by Ron H. (Only Republicans can turn "snatching victory from the jaws of defeat" into an elevated art form!)
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To: Pollster1

Out of those 568 deaths of 0 to 4 year old’s who drowned did or did not drown in a 5 gallon bucket of water? A wash pan of water in the kitchen sink? Or...or...or...? Point is stastics don’t mean anything unless put in context.


43 posted on 04/23/2011 11:24:37 AM PDT by Ron H. (Only Republicans can turn "snatching victory from the jaws of defeat" into an elevated art form!)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
I love this self-righteous ass:

"I think we as physicians are within our rights to discuss any issue we deem appropriate."

And I, as a self-respecting individual, can tell you to mind your own business. If you're smart, you'll drop it right there.

People who do this, regardless of their particular stripe, are just abusing their 'authority' to promote their own private agenda. Treat accordingly.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

44 posted on 04/23/2011 11:25:57 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Soothesayer
I can’t seem to find anything in common with people my age.

As you brought the subject up, how old are you?

45 posted on 04/23/2011 11:59:50 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

26 as of next week.


46 posted on 04/23/2011 12:10:38 PM PDT by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: Joe Brower
People who do this, regardless of their particular stripe, are just abusing their 'authority' to promote their own private agenda. Treat accordingly.

Well, I've never run into an antigun doctor in Florida, but I guess getting my medical care at the VA might have something to do with that. Gee, ya think? LOL But watch out for public school teachers. Private school teachers, for that matter. Even teachers at Christian private schools! Sometimes I think I'm the only pro gun/ pro 2nd Amendment teacher in the county! But I know I'm not alone. Some of my peers in the system even shoot IDPA. All four of them. Out of about 30 thousand. Maybe.

47 posted on 04/23/2011 12:19:51 PM PDT by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: marktwain
There are about 600-700 fatal firearms accidents per year in the United States. There are about three million home invasions in the United States in a year. Which is the greater risk?

Good one.

48 posted on 04/23/2011 1:13:06 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: marktwain
Pediatricians say gun privacy bill would muzzle them

Don't act like raving rabid animals, you won't get muzzled, umm kay?

49 posted on 04/23/2011 1:20:10 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: marktwain
It's standard practice now for pediatricians to ask safety questions of parents: Is there a pool in the home? Do you have car seats and use seat belts?

Ah, I think we've identified the root of the problem. Standard practice should be setting the broken arm or whatever I brought the kid in for, and keeping your flapping trap SHUT.

50 posted on 04/23/2011 1:21:53 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: marktwain
"Few physicians understand the difference between a penalty that is criminal verses referring you to the Florida Board of Medicine."

The stupidity defense doesn't go over well with your patients when you're charging them $400 an hour for your time.

51 posted on 04/23/2011 1:25:01 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: ExSoldier

My old Florida Doctor retired maybe a year ago. He used to have “American Rifleman” in his waiting room. This bothered me a little as the NRA has been pretty weak at times but it is better than it could be.

My new Doctor keeps several national defense and Navy magazines in his office.


52 posted on 04/23/2011 1:34:15 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Still Thinking

If your child’s arm is broken, they’ll be too busy trying to get you to admit that YOU abused the child and broke the arm to ask about your firearms.


53 posted on 04/23/2011 1:36:08 PM PDT by Politicalmom ("We are an 'entitlement' society and we need to move towards being an 'empowerment' society"-H. Cain)
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To: Ron H.
Point is statistics don’t mean anything unless put in context.

You are obviously not a Dem. A true lib would say that statistics don’t mean anything unless they are put in a context that serves the cause of socialism. But you're right; I didn't reference a dataset that answers your question. The data say in summary that children under age one most often drown in bathtubs, buckets (30 per year in 2 gal to 5 gal buckets, generally at ages 5-15 months), and toilets, and those aged 1 to 4 years most often drown in residential swimming pools - usually when they were not supposed to be in the pool and a parent had seen them inside within five minutes before drowning, usually on weekends and in the summer of course.

54 posted on 04/23/2011 1:41:49 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower
From Boundary Violation: Gun Politics in the Doctor’s Office by Timothy Wheeler, MD

Boundaries in the doctor-patient relationship derive naturally from the relationship’s fiduciary nature. In general, "treatment boundaries can be defined as the set of rules that establishes the professional relationship as separate from other relationships and protects the patient from harm. A patient who seeks medical or psychiatric treatment is often in a uniquely dependent, anxious, vulnerable, and exploitable state. In seeking help, patients assume positions of relative powerlessness in which they expose their weaknesses, compromise their dignity, and reveal intimacies of body or mind, or both." (7)

Thus compromised, the patient relies heavily on the physician to act only in the patient’s interest and not the physician’s. A doctor must put the patient’s needs before his own. But a physician reverses the priorities when because of passionate political beliefs he tries to influence his patient against guns. This physician puts his own need to "do something" about the perceived evil of guns before the needs of his patient. He crosses the line from healer to political activist. Such doctor-on-patient political activism is recognized in Epstein and Simon’s Exploitation Index (8) as a boundary violation.

Just as some physician sexual transgressors may insist their sex relations with a patient are therapeutic, the activist doctor may protest that he only seeks to prevent "gun violence." However, the conduct of the medical activists strongly indicates that their interest in patients’ guns is political, not therapeutic.

The AAP, ACP, and AMA are members of the Handgun Epidemic Lowering Plan (HELP) Network, based in Chicago. HELP is an exclusive advocacy group dedicated to banning guns. Physicians who disagree with HELP’s anti-gun agenda are barred from attending HELP’s conferences, a policy unthinkable in any scientific organization. HELP’s founder and leader Dr. Katherine Christoffel has compared guns to viruses that must be eradicated. (9) The group’s militant advocacy has no place for differing viewpoints on firearms, and apparently neither do the medical organizations which have signed on as HELP members.


55 posted on 04/23/2011 1:54:42 PM PDT by kitchen (Over-gunned is better than the alternative. - E. Keith)
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To: yldstrk
Bingo!

"Mom and dad, if you have firearms in your home, make sure they are safely stored so the kiddos cannot get to them."

One set of parents says: "We don't have any guns." Ped: "OK"

Second set of parents: "OK"

56 posted on 04/23/2011 2:18:43 PM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: kitchen

Thank you for posting that source.


57 posted on 04/23/2011 2:57:56 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain
"I think we as physicians are within our rights to discuss any issue we deem appropriate," he said.

Financial difficulties are one of the leading causes of marital disputes that can lead to domestic violence, resulting in injuries that require medical attention - shall the physician discuss bank statements and tax returns as well?

58 posted on 04/23/2011 3:57:23 PM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: Politicalmom
If your child’s arm is broken, they’ll be too busy trying to get you to admit that YOU abused the child and broke the arm to ask about your firearms.

Actually, that's an exception to my previous rule. If they're going to accuse me of abusing my kid, they probably SHOULD be aware of whatever firearms I might own.

59 posted on 04/23/2011 5:10:16 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: kitchen
In general, "treatment boundaries can be defined as the set of rules that establishes the professional relationship as separate from other relationships and protects the patient from harm. A patient who seeks medical or psychiatric treatment is often in a uniquely dependent, anxious, vulnerable, and exploitable state. In seeking help, patients assume positions of relative powerlessness in which they expose their weaknesses, compromise their dignity, and reveal intimacies of body or mind, or both.

Obamacrap. The doctor is in effect a plumber. People hire plumbers either because they lack the specialized knowledge needed or the time. The doctor is your subcontractor for medical treatment, nothing more. He's a hired gun. He works for you, not the other way around.

60 posted on 04/23/2011 5:14:14 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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