Posted on 04/28/2011 5:55:29 AM PDT by ZGuy
So are they going to also say that Pedophilia is a gift as well?
The UMCs official stance is pro-life unless they changed it recently.
Sorry, but I can't find evidence of that ANYWHERE. They are NEVER active in 40 Days For Life or any other northeastern Ohio Pro-Life activities . . . never.
I even volunteered to give a Pro-Life message at any Sunday morning service and was told that it would probably be too controversial. And I can't find any national message to refute that. Homosexuality and Abortion are NEVER brought up!
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The overwhelming scientific evidence is that people are born with their sexual orientation, that it is not a choice, the church contends. Fully accepting ones sexual orientation and identity is key to leading a normal and healthy life.
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UMC facepalm. Kum bah-freakin’-yah...
What about homosexuality is healthy, exactly?...
Colonel, USAFR
Funny thing about the word “tolerance”.
Taken in its pure form, it means to be within a given set of standard values. Fine - we’ll judge things by those standards.
When the left uses it, it means “you must accept whatever perverted crap we are trying to force on you”.
"...and we don't tolerate anyone who disagrees with us."
just wow...what Bible are they reading/teaching...???
Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
“But my pastor said hed rather not get controversial because 1) it might offend some people, and 2) members of the congregation who are homosexual or who might have had abortions would leave.”
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Re 1) “I did not come to bring peace, but a sword”.
Re 2) “Buh-bye...”
I am ashamed of a large segment of the UMC for this very reason: some pastors preach sinfulness as “gifts”, and others are afraid of controversy.
Where is it in Revelation that Christ tells one of the churches, “Because you are neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth”?
Colonel, USAFR
RCAR's Chairman was Linda Bales Todd, General Board of Church and Society, United Methodist Church.
Is that still going on? Has the UMC's "official" stance been pro-life all this time?
I’m just telling you the official stance. Each church makes its own decisions about participation in political events. Yankee UMC units tend to be much more liberal.
The overwhelming scientific evidence is that people are born with their sexual orientation, that it is not a choice, the church contends
A contention they accept solely on blind faith since there is no scientific evidence to support the idea that we are born with attractions.
I was making fun of those views but I don't really care what they teach at an individual church. They can teach anything they want as a church(although we can make fun of it).
My real problem is when they invent these new legal or constitutional rights without a real debate or explanation of what they mean.
Justice O Conner was the key in creating a US constitutional right to homosexual sodomy through judicial fiat. Where did that come from? The 'right to sexual privacy' fairy?
Here in Maryland it is against the law to discriminate in housing and employment for sexual orientation, but sexual orientation is not defined in the law.
Is it a mistake that their acronym is “CUM-Church?” It almost leaves little doubt. These pathetic “church” parodies are constantly poking ridicule at the things of God through snide, obscene, sexually suggestive subtleties. The large sodomite “church” in Dallas has a “bible study” they call “between the covers.” They are an open affront to God.
The leadership of the UMC is made up of liberal politicians. That’s been true for as long as I can remember. The liberals in the UMC make the most noise while the conservatives just quietly leave. That’s why the liberals have so much power.
We will not go quietly into the night.
We will reclaim the UMC for Christ.
We will be victorious with the guidance and power of the Holy Spirit.
Please forgive me for posting this. I just saw this via HotAir link to Zombie.
We really have to not only pray for them, but talk to them... regardless of the outcome. They’re screaming for help and don’t even know it.
http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/2011/04/27/christians-mock-gays-at-shocking-easter-service/
Love the sinner, hate the sin.
They’re being rebellious towards their father. But in order to hate something, you had to have once loved it.
OT: Father Pfleger has finally been suspended re: Chicago.
More details after I read the Archdiocese statement.
What an indictment against that church and pastor.
Some people are going to be in for a rude awakening come Judgment Day.
Galatians 6:7-8 “Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life.”
I don’t think John and Charles Wesley had this in mind for their church organization.
“And all the people said ‘Unnngh!’ and ‘Unnngh!’”
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