Posted on 04/30/2011 5:58:31 PM PDT by BerryDingle
TRIPOLI, Libya — Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi survived a NATO missile strike Saturday that killed his youngest son and three grandchildren and wounded friends and relatives, Libya's spokesman said.
Gadhafi and his wife were in the Tripoli house of son Saif al-Arab Gadhafi, 29, when it was hit by at least one missile fired by a NATO warplane, according to Libyan spokesman Moussa Ibrahim.
Libyan officials took journalists to the one-story house in a wealthy residential neighborhood. Some areas of the roof were caved in, leaving strings of reinforcing steel hanging down among chunks of concrete.
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...”by whatever means” is in the UN statement I believe. Further Gaddafi put his whole family in danger by waring against his own people....who would take him out if they could get to him. The death of any of his families members is on his hands alone.
Some think N.Koreans starving is the US fault as well...(Carter dumbell)...forgetting that Kimbo kicked out everybody. It’s Kim’s fault entirely. Same with the death of these children....no matter who fired the missle. It’s all on Gaddafi’s hands.
If your tear ducts are so damaged that they leak over these ENEMIES of your entire culture and civilization, get them looked at.
It's a new and colder world. It's going to get less crowded, soon. Accept the future.
But if war it is, children will die and get hurt and displaced and lose parents.
That is what war is. Breaking things and killing people.
So, war should be entered into with great throught, prayer, and questions.
But when the flag goes up, stuff is GOING to get broken. And people killed.
I don't believe this war is a just war. Regan retaliated for Lockerbie. Slap for slap, now it should be over.
But the guy in the White House didn't ask me, and we're off to war again. We need to fight it like a war. That is, we need to break lots of stuff, and kill people. Including children (but not targeting children).
/johnny
So... might makes right! Got it.
" ...at a time when America is borrowing from the Middle East at interest rates of three percent, why did the Fed extend $35 billion in (TALF) loans to the Arab Banking Corporation of Bahrain at interest rates as low as one quarter of one point?
Even more disturbing, the major stakeholder in the Bahrain bank is none other than the Central Bank of Libya, which owns 59 percent of the operation. In fact, the Bahrain bank just received a special exemption from the U.S. Treasury to prevent its assets from being frozen in accord with economic sanctions. That's right: Muammar Qaddafi received more than 70 loans from the Federal Reserve'...
There are two "Just War doctrines".
The most recent (and better known) was formulated by Aquinas as nation-states were coming into being. Hence the emphasis on diplomacy ("last resort") and proportionality.
The older, simpler, and least known doctrine is the one by +Augustine.
Ever since September 11, 2001, I have believed that our times more closely resemble those of +Augustine than those of Aquinas.
Ih really since when have we been "superior" in anything on the International stage? Not since 2008 for certain. Also keep in mind that God had plenty to say about war...and leaders.....Pharoh lost his son as well...and we know who was responsible for that. God will and does raise up leaders and he will also take them down...not uncommon children are affected....adults forget their choices will always affect their family.
So now suddenly we’re not afraid of offending Muslims?
Who said it was us?
What goes around, comes around.
If he doesn’t want to get burned, he shouldn’t be playing with fire.
If muzzies are going to complain about killing children, they need to stop themselves and not whine about it when it happens TO them for a change, instead of BY them.
Yes, of course it does....especially when all is said and done....Revelations comes to mind.
ABSOLUTELY NOT!
This was a NATO attack, a NATO attack, A NATO ATTACK!
The Obamedia will go to great pains to stress that repeatedly over the Sunday talk shows.
>>>But the guy in the White House didn’t ask me, and we’re off to war again. We need to fight it like a war. That is, we need to break lots of stuff, and kill people. Including children (but not targeting children).>>>
“My country right or wrong.” Absurd rationalizations such as this resulted in people getting executed at Nuremberg.
“Clear and Present Danger”
sarc
Someone better kill him now, and the rest of the clan too
Revenge is nasty in that culture, as PanAm 103 showed
Exactly!
We need to remember, too, that this is the party line from Libya.
For all those taking it as gospel, do you really think that the muslims wouldn’t lie about this? That it’s cold hard fact?
Maybe it did happen.
Maybe it didn’t.
We are talking about a country, culture and religion/political system (Islam) that train their ‘children’ from birth to hate/kill infidels ‘wherever they may be found’.
Remember also the ‘children’ of Vietnam who regularly took part in the killing of American soldiers.
With this historical FACT as a guide, they should all be presumed a lethal threat until proven otherwise, solely because they are. To not do so on our part is insanity and begging for our own death.
We have become America the pussified. No, no one in a civilized society ‘wants’ or ‘enjoys’ the death of children, but when dealing with Islamic garbage that trains it’s children to kill, which they do, one must either fight the enemy in all it’s forms or surrender to it. Not one American life should be lost, or placed in danger out of a misplaced sense of morality.
And no, I do not think we should be there, but thanks to Lord Steve, we are. Now we HAVE to deal with it, like it or not.
All of this is making me sick. The press and their double standard, our lying cheating, traitorous POS Marxist President, and the fact we have FReepers here condoning the murder of innocent children. These kids weren’t caught in a battle or a bomb gone wrong. We targeted and murdered those children. We aren’t even fighting a war in Libya for C___st’s sake. In fact we aren’t fighting a war anywhere. I don’t think anybody has a GD clue what we’re doing other than going to hell in a hand basket.
It's up to the civilians that run the military to determine where we go to war.
I don't this is a just or proper war. I don't think we have a dog in the fight.
But if we're going to tread in bloody water, I want our guys to be the biggest, baddest, meanest SOBs out there.
And I want every one of our guys back right this minute. That's not going to happen. So, realistically, the next best thing is to give them carte blanche. And pull them out quickly, since this is an immoral war.
/johnny
Reagan retaliated for German nightclub bombing that killed US serviceman
He did not retaliate for Lockerbie/PanAm 103. I believe Bush 41 had just won the US presidency a month before Lockerbie ... so it happened (conveniently) as the watch was changing
As far as I know, NO ONE ever retaliated for Lockerbie
Strange, that
As if the uS accepted the deaths of all those people over guilt for the USS Vincennes downing the Iranian Airbus 4 months earlier...
oh wait, that would make Iranian mullahs a co-conspirator player, wouldn’t it? We don’t want to deal with that...after all, the Iranian moderates are just waiting to come into power...so our experts have been saying since 1975
Why is it that they don't worry about children getting killed, but go out of their way in Afghanistan to have our soldiers unarmed?
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