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Obama's Birth Certificate Was Apparently Manipulated
http://www.whitehouse.gov ^ | 5/3/2011 | Self

Posted on 05/03/2011 7:10:18 AM PDT by Smedley

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To: reegs

I guess we now have to have separate birther categories.

We have the Birthplacers, like on this thread, who have some irrational delusion regarding zer0’s place of birth. Many of these people are apparently software engineers and graphic artists.

Then we have the NaturalBirthers who accept his Hawaiian birth, but don’t accept the “natural born citizen” consensus. Many of these people are apparently constitutional lawyers.

I’m a BirthAnnouncementer. I want to find the guy who invented the time machine to place those two birth announcements and ask him why he didn’t use his brain to flatten the image and/or to persuade the framers/SCOTUS what a NBC really is.

Of course, like you, I’m far more concerned with the actual issues that plague our nation.


21 posted on 05/03/2011 7:26:04 AM PDT by whattajoke (Let's keep Conservatism real.)
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To: MrB
I was wondering, though, if the artifacts that some are pointing out are simply the results of the scanning software used to create the digital image.

A scan would be a monolithic image. It's possible that the image is a computer-generated composite and that's the standard way Hawaii does it, except for the fact that this is the only example of this format that anybody has seen.

Come up with another example of this format, and I would guess it is legitimate.

Failure to find another example would be pretty damning. Somebody ought to apply for one and request the same format as Zero's.

22 posted on 05/03/2011 7:28:07 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Under Islam, there is no separation of church and state. The church IS the state.)
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To: Smedley

No comments out of the US Congress or from cry baby about the forgery!


23 posted on 05/03/2011 7:28:21 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: twhitak

Some will question it no matter what. I am ready to give up on the BC. However, we can talk about his father being a British subject and Obama not being a NBC, but non one who can do anything about it seems to care.


24 posted on 05/03/2011 7:29:21 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: caver
posted ... 600 times

597 times to be precise (see post 6).

25 posted on 05/03/2011 7:30:26 AM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Smedley

There’s no question that it’s a “created document”, not a scan of a piece of paper.

It does nothing to prove - or disprove - the veracity of any information contained in the BC document file. It could be true or it could be a fabrication, but the fact that they released an electronic document that would obviously be examined in this way tells us something.

That they have no interest in establishing the truth.


26 posted on 05/03/2011 7:30:39 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: ilovesarah2012

Did you hear Mark Steyn’s rant on that topic the other day?

It was damning (of us), but right on the money.

“You have a Marxist president, elected by a braindead electorate, your country’s on the brink of complete economic meltdown, your debt level is absolutely crushing,

and you’re arguing about the definition of Natural Born Citizen?”


27 posted on 05/03/2011 7:32:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: conservativegramma

I truly believe that there is NOTHING about BO that isn’t fake. NOTHING he says or does is real. He is a liar down to his dna, a cartoon, surrounded by people determined to obscure the truth.
I wouldn’t believe him when he says the grass is green or rain is wet.
What frightens me more is the gullibility of too many Americans who prefer fantasy to reality if it feels good and means they don’t have to think too hard about anything.


28 posted on 05/03/2011 7:32:58 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: neverdem

ping


29 posted on 05/03/2011 7:35:12 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Smedley

A graphic designer that has to use a “demo version” of Illustrator?

Hasn’t this topic already been covered at length? If the document was scanned to PDF using a scanner employing OCR (Optical Character Recognition), the likely result would be a layered file.


30 posted on 05/03/2011 7:35:40 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Smedley

Be my guest; anyone who doesn’t think everything about this numb-nuts is fake is a confirmed idiot themselves.

He has done nothing since his original appearance in politics in general that hasn’t been fake, the current OBL debacle included.

Sadly, time will tell, and Americans will bear the world fury.


31 posted on 05/03/2011 7:35:50 AM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: palmer

I was being sarcastic and exaggerating, but you get the point.


32 posted on 05/03/2011 7:38:59 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Smedley

This has been explored a thousand plus times since the “release”. 95% of those doing similar examination of the file (including several folks who work with Adobe Photoshop/Illustrator for their living and could be deemed experts) have come to the same conclusion - the document has been altered. The 5% dissenting say the abnormalities come from OCR software.

But that doesn’t jibe with the experience of most folks.

The document has been altered. Why? Only Hawaii and/or Obummer and company know for certain.


33 posted on 05/03/2011 7:41:36 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: My hearts in London - Everett

Two clever by half


34 posted on 05/03/2011 7:44:38 AM PDT by spokeshave (Obamas approval ratings are so low, Kenyans are accusing him of being born in the USA.)
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To: MrB

The “artifacts” don’t fully explain. The resolution of different parts of the document don’t match. Scanning and OCR software don’t change the resolution of parts of a scanned image. Some sections demonstrate far larger pixels than others - this isn’t a natural product of artifacts from compression or any known software.


35 posted on 05/03/2011 7:44:38 AM PDT by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: MrB
“You have a Marxist president, elected by a braindead electorate, your country’s on the brink of complete economic meltdown, your debt level is absolutely crushing, and you’re arguing about the definition of Natural Born Citizen?”

Yeah, because ignoring the Constitution, or failing to understand the Constitution is why we have a marxist president, why we have a braindead electorate, why we are having economic meltdown, and why our debt level is crushing!

Continuing to ignore the Constitution isn't going to help change any of the above....its just going to make them worse! So yeah, we're going to continue arguing the Constitution because we are 'supposed' to be a Nation of Laws and without laws we are dead anyhow. Some people are more dense than the birthers are! (@(*@&($&(*#(*@$@((&_)!!!!

36 posted on 05/03/2011 7:44:43 AM PDT by conservativegramma
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To: Smedley; LucyT; Bikkuri; GregNH; faucetman; warsaw44; ColdOne; wintertime; Fred Nerks; ...
Joke of the day Ping......................

Obama's Birth Certificate Was Apparently Manipulated

A bonus joke:

I’m not saying its phoney, but just odd

Enjoy! :-)

37 posted on 05/03/2011 7:45:18 AM PDT by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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To: Smedley

Uh, Smedles, you are about the 10,000th person to “discover” this. Been under a rock the last week?


38 posted on 05/03/2011 7:50:49 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Smedley

I’m of the opinion that this is just a well-choreographed event, with a little in it to satisfy everyone.

For those that watch a few CNN headlines every day thru those that ardently listen to NPR, they can view the issue as over and done with, Barry Soetoro is “a citizen” and thus eligible to be president.

For everybody else that knows he’s been an imposter all along, a marxist usurper, this BC was designed to keep many of us going, with BIG problems with layers, chromatic aberrations and incriminating pixelations.

Its basically a realization by its fabricators that there are MANY simultaneous conversations going on across a land of 300 millions, and the way they did this they think gets them closer to their promised land. They do not fear its being exposed for the fraud it is, as that is counter balanced by a ton of others that will keep ‘em going.

Its like that gremlin outside the bus... some of us are keenly aware that it is real, dangerous, and imminent; while others sing “wheels on the bus”.


39 posted on 05/03/2011 7:52:08 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: MrB
Because they WANT people to keep talking about it -“see? No amount of proof will appease those people!”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

As pressure grows for the release of other documents ( school transcripts, passports, travel records, etc.) Obama will continue to dribble out documents of poor quality that definitively prove nothing.

This is a tough choice for conservatives:

1) As a political strategy we can give up the fight for truth in the hope that we will win election victories. In the end ( due to malaise and lack of defense) the Constitution is weakened even further. The Marxists will then move on to attack some other portion of the Constitution rendering that part mute as well....and...so it goes. We are led ever so softly down to hell.

2) We can continue calling for the truth and be called “fringers” and “lunatics”. This strategy will likely not only lose short term election battles but possibly even our nation, freedom, and everything that it means to be an American.

Only in the mists of history will full importance of the extreme danger our nation faces now be recognized, and then only if the Constitutionalists win and the Marxists are defeated. The winner will write the history.

40 posted on 05/03/2011 7:54:21 AM PDT by wintertime
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