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Lots of questions for law enforcement here.
1 posted on 05/11/2011 9:17:18 AM PDT by petitfour
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swatters gone apecrap


2 posted on 05/11/2011 9:20:00 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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The only way to stop this is to retaliate against all involved every time it happens. The law no longer protects us.


3 posted on 05/11/2011 9:21:46 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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Life in prison without Parole for the whole Bunch of them, including ALL Persons responsible for ordering this raid. Welcome to the Police State. Sad thing is, I dont expect this sort of thing here in AZ, when I am in Ca, it is expected but not here.


4 posted on 05/11/2011 9:22:56 AM PDT by eyeamok
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So they do a dynamic entry and shoot the guy who thinks someones breaking in?


5 posted on 05/11/2011 9:23:21 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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Hmmm, lots more to this story. If he was involved in dealing then the cops were in the right. If it was the wrong house, yet again, then they have some serious questions to be answered.

As for him not getting medical care, it’s standard proceedure that the site must be cleared out and declared safe before paramedics are allowed inside.


6 posted on 05/11/2011 9:24:06 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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Unless there is more to this story than is being told, I gotta say “If you point an AR-15 at me, I’m taking you down.” We can’t have ROE here like we do with our military. That’s how our guys die in the Middle East.


9 posted on 05/11/2011 9:25:53 AM PDT by RC2
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Lots of questions here.

Sounds like they were looking for some sort of 'ring' whether it be a drug ring or some other type, I'm not sure.

Who signed off on this warrant? What was the evidence?

And let's remember, folks, that there are a lot of bad people in the military. Especially once they get out. There are bad cops, as well, to be sure but they didn't go looking to kill this guy.

10 posted on 05/11/2011 9:26:25 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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This is just plain wrong!

This has ruined my day and this poor widow and childrens lives.

Somebody needs to pay for this awful mistake. The no knock warrants and SWAT teams have got to go. I don't care if they flush the evidence, we have to have our rights back.

11 posted on 05/11/2011 9:26:45 AM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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America needs to get fed up with militaristic police forces. Our tolerance of tyranny is breathtaking.


12 posted on 05/11/2011 9:26:51 AM PDT by pallis
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Something stinks here...that’s for sure....


13 posted on 05/11/2011 9:27:09 AM PDT by Crim (Palin / West '12)
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Did they get the dog?


14 posted on 05/11/2011 9:27:28 AM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 840 of our national holiday from reality. - OBL Dead? The TSA can go away!)
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The next time a cop points a gun at someone everyone else should mow the bastard down. It is what cops do.


18 posted on 05/11/2011 9:30:33 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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This is a reason to be prepared with bullets that can penetrate body armor easily, and a defensive position to retreat to. Odds are that the guy was doing something illegal, but he didn't deserve to be killed in this manner.

Everytime I hear something like this, I wonder how people would react if it was portrayed honestly in an old Western movie. The Sheriff shows up with a posse of 12 men, armed and with scarves over their faces. They knock once on the door, then kick it in. The "bad guy" is crouched behind the bed, his girlfriend and her children are hiding in a nearby closet. The Sheriffs posse begins shooting as soon as they see the man, knowing that he will be armed because well, who isn't armed in their own house, with the possibility of Indians, or thieves (read Indians or bank robbers). They then drag the girlfriend from the scene with her arms severely twisted behind her back, tearing a rotator cuff (most common injury), and watch as the "bad guy" dies. They laugh and brag that their shot was the deadly one. Sheriff, instead of looking at the men with a sad look as in the old Western, reassures them that they did the right thing. The judge helps with the coverup, as well as the local newspaper editor. After all, this guy was "BAD".

21 posted on 05/11/2011 9:32:04 AM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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71 shots fired?
One suspect?
IDIOTS.
Probally lucky that they did not shoot one of their own.


23 posted on 05/11/2011 9:34:16 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA
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Somebody is damned sure lying.

My bet is it’s the cops.

Their story just doesn’t sound right.

They claim to have shouted “Police” and responded with lights and sirens. When did any police force ever do that when they serve these warrants. Other warrants were served round the neighborhood with the same noise and these people didn’t hear it.

They expected the small kid and the mother to be gone when they got there? BS.

The story just isn’t right.


25 posted on 05/11/2011 9:36:26 AM PDT by Venturer
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SWAT team ...

When your only tool is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail.

32 posted on 05/11/2011 9:39:48 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (An election is not a (national) suicide pact.)
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Swat teams are trained for “action” when facing an enemy weapon firing or not. Get off the backs of law-enforcement and the military they are not trained to put a hand up and shout.....are you going to fire?


36 posted on 05/11/2011 9:41:22 AM PDT by yoe
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Justice is blind.. and so, apparently is the legal system in this country as well..

another victim of WoD? or just a poor soul caught up in the middle of law enforcement making another community safer for all of us.. except those who own weapons and seek to protect their families against all comers.

RIP Marine


40 posted on 05/11/2011 9:45:10 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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If you buy the SWAT guys all those super cool guns, they gotta use them on somebody.

They fired 71 shots and guy was still alive when they were done. A little more target practice and they won't miss the kid next time either.

41 posted on 05/11/2011 9:45:30 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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71 shots in 7 seconds is reckless and a public safety issue. That's not careful, aimed shots to bring down a suspect, that's spray and pray.

Not that you should go around pointing guns at cops, or not drop them when directed. But 71 round to zero? You can get spend less rounds in a short firefight in Afghanistan.

45 posted on 05/11/2011 9:48:11 AM PDT by Steel Wolf ("There are moderate Muslims, but Islam itself is not moderate." - Ibn Warraq)
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