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What a surprise! (/sarc)
1 posted on 05/12/2011 11:03:48 PM PDT by UniqueViews
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To: UniqueViews

Another issue for Palin to hammer on when she enters.


2 posted on 05/12/2011 11:15:50 PM PDT by mrspeelwerneeded (m)
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To: UniqueViews
Redistribution of free medical care from the productive members of society who pay for it to preferred, non paying Obama/Democrat voting blocs is the goal of Obama Care.

Our failed social policies have produced a huge number of 3rd to 5th generation welfare recipients who have serious, chronic medical problems often due to inherent organic problems from several generations of fetal drug and alcohol abuse combined health problems stemming from chronic drinking, smoking, drug abuse, STDs and poor diet. There is also a large number people who require medical care due to gang violence and/or injuries from criminal or prison activities as well as accidents while under the influence.

Obama care is an attempt to socialize and subsidize the the health problems created by the welfare culture and life style

3 posted on 05/12/2011 11:25:26 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: UniqueViews

Yes, it is. Leveling is always downward, never upward. Healthcare should be up to the individual to decide how much they want/can afford to spend on it.


7 posted on 05/12/2011 11:42:50 PM PDT by Roy Tucker ("You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality."--Ayn Rand)
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To: UniqueViews

Healthcare has already stopped being patient oriented. “The greatest good for the greatest number”, will be the bureaucrats public mantra but control and limitation of the inferm or elderly will be the practice. Refer to the Soviet experience or observe the NHS in Great Britian.


8 posted on 05/13/2011 12:03:43 AM PDT by JimSEA
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To: UniqueViews

And yet he wants to add millions of presently illegal immigrants to plan.

Millions more to Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, etc.

His plan is to our country on the fast track to ruin.


9 posted on 05/13/2011 12:54:48 AM PDT by Carley (We will not tire. We will not falter. We will not fail. W, 9/20/01)
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To: UniqueViews

bttt


10 posted on 05/13/2011 1:09:39 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: UniqueViews
The size of obungacare indicates to me that it is about power and not about health care. Likewise Mark Steyn notes that the job of director or head of public health has become the biggest govt. job in European countries which have public health care i.e. it would be a step upwards from PM or President or King or Grand Duke or anything else to head of health care. In other words, European health care is ultimate bureaucracy.

If I had the power to I would institute a sort of a basic health care reform which would be overwhelmingly simple and which would resemble obungacare in no way, shape, or manner. Key points would be:

1. Elimination of lawsuits against doctors and other medical providers. There would be a general fund to compensate victims of malpractice for actual damage and a non-inbred system for weeding out those guilty of malpractice.

2. Elimination of the artificial exclusivity of the medical system. In other words our medical schools could easily produce two or three times the number of doctors they do with no noticeable drop off in quality.

3. Elimination of the various games which drive the cost of medicines towards unaffordability.

4. Elimination of the outmoded WW-II notion of triage in favor of a system which took some rational account of who pays for the system and who doesn't. The horror stories I keep reading about the middle-class guy with an injured child having to fill out forms for three hours while an endless procession of illegal immigrants just walks in and are seen, would end, as would any possibility of that child waiting three hours for treatment while people were being seen for heroin overdoses.

All of those things would fall under the heading of what TR called "trust busting". There would also be some system for caring the truly indigent, but the need and cost would be far less than at present.

By far the biggest item is that first one. I don't know the exact numbers but if you add every cost involved in our present out-of-control lawyering, it has to be a major fraction if not more than half of our medical costs. The trial lawyers' guild being one of the two major pillars of financial support for the democrat party is the basic reason nobody is saying anything about that part of the problem.

12 posted on 05/13/2011 2:21:02 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: UniqueViews

Issues like THIS need to be clearly highlighted in the upcoming election!


15 posted on 05/13/2011 4:26:39 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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Bump


16 posted on 05/13/2011 5:06:10 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: UniqueViews; All
Seniors are going to get a lot less health care. At least, a lot less government-paid health care. It's coming whether you like it or not, and no matter who controls Washington.

The non-secret "secret" about the high cost of American health care compared to other nations is the billions upon billions we spend in essentially futile care during the last year of life. Barack Obama, Don Berwick, and Paul Ryan would all agree with this if their names could be kept off the quote.

If the system is to survive the demographic shifts of the next decades, this practice simply has to stop.

It may be that Paul Ryan prevails, and that the Medicare HMO's who are put in charge of utilization will determine that quadruple bypasses for patients who've had two strokes are "clinically ineffective" as compared to some prescriptions and a walker.

It may be that Barack Obama prevails, and that the Medicare advisory panel decides that a hip replacement is "not medically indicated" for 90 year olds, and that a nice wheelchair is more appropriate.

Both plans, if implemented, will see more patients go straight from the ED to a nice hospice room, if the prognosis for recovery is gloomy enough.

And make no mistake, these decisions will all be cost motivated, and they will come to pass. Everyone who works in health care on the financial side has seen this coming for a decade.

The "golden days" of Medicare, when every new technology was covered, and when many weeks in the ICU preceded every death, are over.

17 posted on 05/13/2011 5:19:48 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Populism is antithetical to conservatism.)
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We have the failed examples of European, Canadian, and Massachusetts government healthcare - so our dear leaders are eager to sign us up for the same enslavement.

Vote them out!

I work at a state "healthcare" facility. The conditions are appalling. The bureaurocracy has added layers of administration, cut nurses below safe staffing levels and denied any additional support to the medical department, like additional doctors which are sorely needed and desperately needed equipment. Oh well, we're all gonna die anyway!

19 posted on 05/13/2011 6:59:35 AM PDT by austingirl
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The board, which was an original part of Obamacare (remember the death panel debate?), consists of 15 unelected bureaucrats who will have unchecked, binding power in the interest of supposedly greater efficiency and lower costs. That means that instead of you or your doctor making decisions about your care, a group of Washington micromanagers will do it for you.


20 posted on 05/13/2011 7:10:13 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts." Richard Feynman father of Quantum Physics)
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21 posted on 05/13/2011 7:13:13 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I fear for my parents when I see this. I can say more but I got to go to work, millions of looters depend on me.


23 posted on 05/13/2011 7:35:54 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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I’m so glad we have a home elsewhere, a country where every minute of life is valued. FUBO! I’ve already beat him at his own game. FOBO.


27 posted on 05/13/2011 9:00:06 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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