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Court: reaffirms that muddy water is pollution
AP via SFGate ^ | 5/17/11 | JEFF BARNARD, AP Environmental Writer

Posted on 05/17/2011 1:09:56 PM PDT by SmithL

Grants Pass, Ore. (AP) -- A federal appeals court has reaffirmed that muddy water running off logging roads after rainstorms is pollution that requires a special permit from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: 9thcircus; epa; logging; muddywaters; polution
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To: Dead Corpse

Wait until I get back into goofy... I am way too close to the capitol of goofiest until friday....


21 posted on 05/17/2011 1:42:19 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Yeah, I can’t find my asteroid remote, so you are safe. :-)


22 posted on 05/17/2011 1:44:13 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (explosive bolts, ten thousand volts at a million miles an hour)
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To: Joe 6-pack
A thousand years from now, future nations will look back at the failed American experience and draw the lesson that the insane and mentally defective should not be elevated to positions of power and authority.

Well, the fall of the Roman Empire taught the same lesson 2,000 years ago, and we appear not to have learned anything from that. (Actually, the Founders did, but modern America has long since lost that knowledge).

23 posted on 05/17/2011 1:48:48 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: Dead Corpse
"We have our own problems up here"

Get on it, Dead Corpse. What are you waiting for? Permission?


24 posted on 05/17/2011 1:48:58 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: Cyber Liberty; SmithL

***This means the Mississippi River is by far the largest source of pollution of the Gulf of Mexico.***

And the Colorado river was not called that because it was clear! I swam in the muddy Colorado outside Moab UT as a child!


25 posted on 05/17/2011 1:49:31 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: okie01

***All across the fruited plain, there are literally hundreds of aptly-named Muddy Rivers, Muddy Creeks and Muddy Lakes. ***

Not to mention the the Canadian River in NM. I’ve never seen it anything but muddy brown.


26 posted on 05/17/2011 1:52:42 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

I remember the pioneers said of one river,
“too muddy to drink, too wet to plow.”


27 posted on 05/17/2011 1:53:22 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SmithL

So now the EPA claims ultimate authority over suspended load. This will negatively impact any human activity that results in soil disturbance including the mining, agricultural, construction industries to name just a few. The day is coming were we will all need to file an EIS just to breathe.


28 posted on 05/17/2011 1:56:25 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: tet68

“too muddy to drink, too wet to plow.”

LOL! here is one about the Missouri River...

Too thick to drink, too thin to plow.


29 posted on 05/17/2011 1:56:30 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare!)
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To: Maceman
"Well, the fall of the Roman Empire taught the same lesson 2,000 years ago, and we appear not to have learned anything from that. (Actually, the Founders did, but modern America has long since lost that knowledge)."

As you're probably aware, one of the theories behind the fall of Rome had to do with the unwitting ingestion of lead and other heavy metals from their plumbing that contributed to the madness of their leadership. As far as I can tell, we don't have that excuse :-)

30 posted on 05/17/2011 1:59:52 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
Not to mention the Canadian River in NM. I’ve never seen it anything but muddy brown.

There's not a river between Albuquerque and Tulsa, or between Minot and Laredo that isn't "muddy".

I demand an investigation and prosecution of the appropriate party.

31 posted on 05/17/2011 2:04:08 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I swam in the muddy Colorado outside Moab UT as a child!

Drove thru Moab last Fall. Spectacular location.

32 posted on 05/17/2011 2:10:54 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: SmithL

I live in Maryland. Around here they would have to dig a basin to hold the runoff and they would have to line the roads with black plastic to catch and direct the runoff to the catch basin.

Everywhere you go here there are little catch basins to catch runoff, and of course those little ponds have to have a fence around them to keep the kiddies out, and a rock strewn overflow.Every parking lot has a pond or catch basin.
You cannot build a home without first lining the boundaries and the proposed driveway with plastic.


33 posted on 05/17/2011 2:26:04 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: All

Better shut down all the roads in Riverside County.

They all are a muddy mess after it rains including the 91 and the I-10.


34 posted on 05/17/2011 2:28:03 PM PDT by troy McClure
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To: SmithL
I should have quit you, a long time ago; wouldn't be here with all my troubles, down on the killing floor.
35 posted on 05/17/2011 2:29:45 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: Dead Corpse
"CA... Wouldn’t go back even if lucrative remuneration made it tempting"

BTW, I respect that.


36 posted on 05/17/2011 2:51:33 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: SmithL
Idiots!

WOW, they are dumb as Bill Maher!

“certitude… the hallmark of unbright people”
-Bill Maher (ironically deems himself the unbrightest of the unbright)

37 posted on 05/17/2011 2:57:42 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (The only crimes that are 100% preventable are crimes committed by illegal aliens)
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To: TheBattman
After all, each and every time it rains, muddy water is generated, thus God is a “polluter” by the 9th Circus’ ruling.

Beat me too it! EPA is out of control!

38 posted on 05/17/2011 3:38:48 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama will be president until 2017.)
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To: Paladin2

Anyone near the muddy Mississippi River is in trouble, too.


39 posted on 05/17/2011 3:48:15 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SpaceBar
"....we will all need to file an EIS just to breathe."

Well, they are certainly locking down exhalation (CO2).

40 posted on 05/17/2011 4:39:07 PM PDT by Paladin2
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