Posted on 05/25/2011 3:57:15 AM PDT by library user
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The battle over the federal deficit hasn’t flipped in favor of the Democrats. The GOP isn’t suddenly at grave risk of losing its House majority.
But after two years of getting pummeled over spending and the size of government, Democrats now appear to have found a political weapon that’s capable of evening out the fight: Medicare.
The popular entitlement program wasn’t the sole issue behind Kathy Hochul’s upset victory in a New York special election Tuesday night, but strategists in both parties say it was an important force. And for the first time since November, the idea that Democrats might have a shot at winning back the House is no longer a laughing matter.
The three-way race between Hochul, Republican Assemblywoman Jane Corwin and self-funding independent Jack Davis offers at best mixed omens for the 2012 campaign. Hochul drew a stronger than expected 47 percent of the vote, and Corwin won an anemic 42 percent, but the 9 percent Davis took as a third-party candidate prevented any candidate from getting a telling majority.
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Right, they could say they cut taxes and reduce spending while raising taxes and increase spending and the media will turn a blind eye to their lie
That isn't new, it's what The Lizard Rahm and The Red Bitch have been doing since 2006.
Same old same-old. That, and demoralizing real Conservatives and trying to get them to stay home by pulling stunts like the Mark Foley poofter-outing.
Exactly. The Donald could be very much in demand in 2012.
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And 0’b is going to gut medicare while RATS cheer from the sidelines.
Excuse me - a conservative loses in NY and we are supposed to believe this is a repudiation of conservatives? Am I missing something?
Did you expect dims to roll over and die... these are rat bastard evil doers... they will fight to the death... unlike most of the republican leadership and about 25% of FReepers.
LLS
The simple fact is that the GOP lost because the GOP lost.
If the GOP candidate had anything to offer conservatives, they would have voted for her regardless as to the independent candidate.
The GOP should carefully analyze this campaign and determine just what did the independent have(or say) that caused Republican voters to turn and vote for him. Then, they should remember the lesson and try to correct the problem that drove those voters from their party.
So far, I’ve never seen the GOP even stop to think that they were anything other than perfect in their admiration of themselves so they keep on shooting themselves in the foot every time and then wonder what went wrong.
For example: Foisting McCain upon us as their poster child in 2008, thinking we all just love “their boy” Romney, allowing any funds at all in the previous election of RINOs such as Olympia Snowe and others, along with many other NON-CONSERVATIVE actions that have driven voters away from their base.
Our country is in serious trouble on many fronts and it all stems from the liberal actions of BOTH parties in power. The time has come to “bite the bullet” and vote the man, not the party for we may lose the initial battle but through sacrifice, we will win the war. If we don’t sacrifice, the war is lost before we even start.
Let’s stop quibbling about what party to vote for and start at the grass roots level (local, county, state, and national) and make the final attempt to save our way of life and not desecrate the lives of so many soldiers and patriots who have fought to maintain our freedoms and heritage. The current “pant load” of politicians in office today could care less.
The Tea Party is a start and probably the only hope that we have left.
Apparently former Rep Lee got tens of thousands more votes last fall than the winner did this time. A big problem was Republicans not turning out. So now they are stuck with this left wing rep. There were news articles saying “life long Republicans” were upset over the Medicare cuts. OK so they should stop yelling about big government and deficits then. I thought the whole revolt of 2010 was about curtailing government. Ryan and company are actually trying to be bold and do something about it but now even rank and file Republicans are getting squishy, at least in NY apparently. So they have to decide what they really want.
I believe the GOP candidate in this case actually backed away from Ryan’s plan, so I’m not sure that was the source of her defeat. I think it was the usual third party stuff.
As for Ryan’s plan, it is good and was backed by all GOPers. But the problem is that they have let the Dems gain the media advantage and haven’t explained it very well.
Medicare as it is now sucks. What it pays the doctors is so low that many won’t even accept it, while at the same time, the patient ends up having to lay out large (and increasing) amounts of money to make up for the gap. To make it worse, the uncovered amounts are unpredictable. What other insurance program is so bad that you have to buy supplementary insurance to cover it?
Ryan’s program is an excellent solution; furthermore, it doesn’t even affect people currently on Medicare. Well, except by keeping the program somewhat solvent, which won’t happen if it goes on as it has.
The GOP has got to make these points.
Why aren’t the Republicans running ads reminding people that the Democrats have cut half trillion dollars from medicare followed by a clip of BO saying “sometimes you just have to take a pain pill”? We must have a bunch of Schwarzenagers and Ensigns who are afraid to make a move.
How about funding some fake far left candidates? Get people out there saying the Democrat party is not liberal enough. We need another alternative! Split their vote. Why not fight dirty, like they do? Being nice and obeying the rules gets us more defeats like this one yesterday.
You know how you sometimes ask a question, hoping the other person doesn’t provide the obvious answer just because hearing it is going to hurt too bad? I had also thought of the “purist” answer, and was hoping that I was wrong.
So 3 years of... high gas prices, record debt and deficit, Obamacare, 9% unemployment, tanking real estate is equal to Repubs offering a plan to save Medicare?
Only in the lib media world is this even now.
That's a good idea at one level -- it might work.
Problem is, it plays into the Cloward-Piven strategy, which was test-marketed in New York City in 1975, bankrupting the city (that famous NY newspaper headline: "FORD TO CITY: DROP DEAD" -- I still love it!).
But the whole Cloward-Piven idea was, to radicalize the Shiftless Mob and turn them toward Red leaders like Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama, by overloading and breaking down the more-modest liberal social programs (all of which back in the day were designed with the "thin cushion" idea front and center: many of them were explicitly marketed as inexpensive and temporary social lubricants, with de-activating and undermining the Red union men and Hollywood Communists a primary unstated objective of such programs).
Return Medicare to a "federal system" model by turning it to the States, and you might be putting the Communists back in business as rabble rousers. (Of course, the only way to put them out of business was demonstrated by Col. Suharto in Indonesia, when the Indonesian army arrested and executed 800,000 PKI cadre and threw their bodies in the sea.)
The elderly are grossly uninformed on what is going to take place with Medicare under the Democrats..It will go bankrupt and coverage will have to be grossly scaled back or care will be rationed by a government panel which will deny it to a large part of the elderly population. They will die. It is always the same story..Ignorance and trust in a media conglomerate which only care about themselves will continue to take us down..They very cleverly lie and dupe those who do not understand large public programs and they are helpless. So, the human race will do what it has always done..Learn the hard way..They will kick dirt in the eye of those who know how to keep us surviving and we will die physically, but the souls of our government and media masters are already spiritually dead and they will go to the proper place when they leave this world.
BINGO!
Obama to South Carolina. Drop dead. No jobs for you. We tell Boeing where they could build their plants and its not your state
I don’t think its the same here. We be advocating all states to run their own Medicare program, even red states. Any taxes increases will be decided by the state government. The program will be reduced by the state government
exactamundo. Once again, there is a huge contingent of uneducated voters out there. The cost of the 2008 election is a direct result. We have our work cut out for us.
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