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Perry’s Path to GOP Nomination Could be the Clearest
Fox News ^ | 5-27-2011 | Chris Stirewalt - OP/ED

Posted on 05/27/2011 9:01:05 PM PDT by smoothsailing

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To: Rational Thought
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Agree

21 posted on 05/27/2011 9:30:12 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO, and I reserve the right to be wrong.)
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To: BobL; Lockbox; LocoAardvark; Logan's Nana; logocentric; lohrkearmstrong; lokii; Lone Star Reb; ...
I really don’t like this guy (he’s my governor)...so I’ll keep posting essentially the same thing:

It’s a bummer. Perry has been very effective in KILLING the more conservative stuff before it gets to his desk, by using surrogates in the state legislature. In fact, he allowed a liberal to run the State House, even though we have a greater-than two to one majority over there...he could have pressed for a more representative leader...but didn’t seem to be interested.

Give the Republican majority in our State House and Senate, we should have turned this state into a right-wing utopia by now...but a certain governor did not really have that as an objective - rather he more wanted to sign a few token token pieces of legislation and be able to say the big stuff (like Arizona-type immigration laws, taking on the unions, taking on Big Education, for example) never made it to his desk...just conveniently died in the legislature...

Thanks for your comments. I saw Governor Perry on Greta the other night and did like what he said. However, I want to learn more about Governor Perry. I heard Rush seems to favor him, and Rush made the comment that the GOP elite “inside the beltway” Republicans don't like Perry. That just made me want to hear more from Texas Freepers about how they feel about Rick Perry running for President.

Doing a Texas Freeper Ping to see more comments from Texans.

As always, if you wish to be off my Texas Freeper ping list, just let me know through FreepMail. Thanks!

22 posted on 05/27/2011 9:30:50 PM PDT by seekthetruth (We The People stand with Israel, even though Obama stands with our enemies!)
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To: smoothsailing

the RinoCrat Oligarchy is basically running down the list...trying to decide who they can “accept”

Anything but whomever the peons and peasants choose...


23 posted on 05/27/2011 9:33:48 PM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: okie01
All of this makes him a serviceable governor in a conservative state. It would make him a fatally weak leader at a time when we need a president with rock-solid conservative principles that is unafraid of controversy.

Sounds like Congressman Allen West to me!
24 posted on 05/27/2011 9:34:01 PM PDT by seekthetruth (We The People stand with Israel, even though Obama stands with our enemies!)
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To: BobL

Thanks Bob, I’ve just in the last couple of days starting paying attention to the Perry chatter. One thing that really stands out is the number of Texas freepers who don’t like him, I mean REALLY DON’T LIKE HIM.


25 posted on 05/27/2011 9:35:35 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: seekthetruth

Needed to make myself clearer:

“we need a president with rock-solid conservative principles that is unafraid of controversy.”

Sounds like Congressman Allen West to me!


26 posted on 05/27/2011 9:35:43 PM PDT by seekthetruth (We The People stand with Israel, even though Obama stands with our enemies!)
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To: smoothsailing

No


27 posted on 05/27/2011 9:37:57 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: smoothsailing

Perry has FAKED being pro border security for years... but what he has done is mostly smoke and mirrors... Perry has been the PRIMARY advocate for the Trans Texas Ripoff... a highway to hell for Texas land owners and tax payers... plus this was the biggest boondoggle for allowing unregulated Mexican trucks to enter the USA with van loads of illegal aliens... Pretty Boy Perry is a FAKE... pretending to be Tea Party, pro border security WHEN HE IS NONE of those things...


28 posted on 05/27/2011 9:38:47 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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I have lived in Texas my entire life, including all 10 years of his governorship and many people have not liked him for a long time, maybe 8 years. Yet the man keeps getting re-elected.

I believe people just generally don’t like established politicians and most people dislike him for one reason or another or they claim he is a “sleazy politician” without giving anything specific. Those same people probably agree with 80-90% of what he’s done. He’s probably no different than 99% of other politicians in that way, but that doesn’t mean that he hasn’t governed effectively. Texas has done quite well through 9/11, a couple of recessions, and 1,200 mile border war under his watch. I’m not saying he’s responsible, but I would say that he has done far better than most governors at maintaining a friendly business environment.

The Texas governor actually is a very weak governor anyways. The legislature only meets every 2 years and the liutenant governor actually wields more power in what legislation gets to the floor for a vote. For example, Lt. Governor David Dewhurst pretty much just squashed the anti-TSA groping bill at the last minute behind the scenes. Bottom line, he’s done an above-average to great job, hence why he has been re-elected twice, TWICE. Everyone is going to find something they don’t like with any politician, especially one that’s been in office for 10 years, but I would say again I can’t disagree with much


29 posted on 05/27/2011 9:38:56 PM PDT by jsdjason
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To: gov_bean_ counter

All of us don’t agree with bobl and all I have to say to any Okie, Don’t Mess With Texas.

The reality in Texas is that the governor has very little control over the Legislature, leadership or Bills. It was set up that way.

Having lived through a number of Texas dem and GOP Governors, show me one other that has proven more “net” Conservative than Gov. Goodhair. One things for damn sure, Perry is night and day more Conservative than nobama.

Whether or not he’s Prez material needs to be prove Yay or Nay.


30 posted on 05/27/2011 9:41:52 PM PDT by dusttoyou ("Progressives" are wee-weeing all over themselves, Foc nobama)
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To: jsdjason

Thanks for the post, I’ve been particularly interested in what Texas freepers have to say about Perry.


31 posted on 05/27/2011 9:43:09 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

I will say one thing: Jesus Christ is coming back... nobody knows when... let’s assume, for argument sake, he is among us now. With over 6 billion people in this world, and I can only rule out myself, chances are he is not going to be one of the about 8 people running for POTUS in 2012. My point is, some of you seem to be hoping for some kind of savior, but we are about 99.999999% likely to have to unite behind” acceptable”. Perry might fit the bill. Worth hearing out if nothing else. I am a Virginia guy and have the exact same opinions of Bob McDonnell as these Texas folks have of Perry. They are all politicians. Either are preferable to Zero... neither are “ great”


32 posted on 05/27/2011 9:46:51 PM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: seekthetruth

DewCrist and Straus are also really good at shafting conservatives


33 posted on 05/27/2011 9:52:14 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

“The new Fox flavor of the week?”

Daily specials now, apparently.


34 posted on 05/27/2011 9:53:07 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Rational Thought

So you smell the fear as well?


35 posted on 05/27/2011 9:55:27 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: SevenMinusOne
With that said, I've not see anyone say exactly why his is a RINO?

You're not exactly looking hard then, because it's been repeated in other threads time and again that have popped up in the past few days.

Take your pick:

Chairman for Al Gore's Texas campaign in 1988

Tried to push a $360 mandatory vaccine for sexually transmitted diseases onto 12 year old girls without discussing it with the legislature or parents. It just so happened that a good friend of Perry's was lobbying on behalf of the manufacturer.

Claims to be pro-life but campaigned hard for the pro-abortion Rudy Giuliani in 2008, going out and telling Americans that Giuliani was the best candidate.

Pushed a program that would have taken over 500,000 acres of land from Texans for a project that would encompass 4,000 miles of roads, rails, and pipelines, and it would be controlled by a foreign company. That company did not have to bid on the initial contracts, and Perry, that company, and Giuliani's lawfirm fought the state Attorney General over releasing details of the agreement out of "competitive" reasons, even though there was no competition. The lobbyist for that company then went to work on Perry's staff, drawing a state salary, helping that foreign company out, then left his state job and again started working as a lobbyist for said company. Rudy Giuilani's lawfirm is in the midst of all of this, making a lot of money.

Made fools out of some Tea Party folks after making them think he supported their secession ideas, then turned around and used the Governor's website to deny he ever supported secession and stated firmly that he would never support secession. While I think secession is silly, I thought it was tacky that he played on these peoples emotions.

Has said Arizona-style legislation is not going to happen in Texas.

Did nothing about the state collecting DNA samples from newborn infants, and storing them at Texas A&M, and the state and A&M allowed those samples to end up in a federal DNA database. Even after it became public, he didn't raise a finger.

Many of the things listed above involved Perry associates, especially people who work on the Governor's staff or campaign and who easily change jobs back to working for companies that lobby the Governor's office/legislature.

It's so many things, that they aren't random mistakes, especially those that have his friends involved. He might be able to be forgiven for one or two things, but over and over he does things that Texans don't like.

When he got %39 of the vote in 2006, you'd think he'd learn to be more conservative, but no, he was still pulling this crap after that.

Him being pro-life and supporting the pro-abortion Giuilani is really a head scratcher.
36 posted on 05/27/2011 9:57:03 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: wolfman23601

Right on. I find it funny that people dislike Perry. Texas is about to become the largest economy in the U.S., which by the way makes the Texas economy bigger than probably 90% of entire countries on the planet. Unemployment is comparatively lower than other states. There is no state income tax, granted this is by no reason of Perry’s, it’s constitutional law in Texas. People complain about property taxes being high and want to blame Perry, but you can look at all 50 states and the overall tax burden in Texas is very low.

Probably the biggest dislike people have of Perry was the Trans Texas Corridor, which got thrown in the trash can after so much uproar, mainly about using eminent domain laws to built a massive highway from Mexico across Texas and eventually to Canada. I can’t say it was a great idea, but it’s not like Perry is out there trying to continually defend it like Romney does with his commy-care law.

In short, there isn’t a lot that Obama or anyone else could criticize Perry on. Oh and by the way, Texas just became the first state in probably 50 years to actually CUT spending. Not reduce the rate of growth, but actually spend less than they spent last year.

Palinistas, better learn to like Perry as he has a great shot at being her VP candidate. By the way, I will be voting Palin over Perry if both run, but I like both.


37 posted on 05/27/2011 9:57:13 PM PDT by jsdjason
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To: wolfman23601

Your point is well taken. I don’t have any problem with Perry at all at this point. I still have alot to learn about him, I’m nowhere near up to speed. I’ve read both positive and negative. I’ll keep an open mind as I learn more.

I do like the fact that he is the Governor of a large, successful state. I get the impression that his pro-life and pro-2nd Amendment credentials are solid as well as his support of DOMA and his opposition to embryonic stem cell research.


38 posted on 05/27/2011 10:00:25 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: af_vet_rr

Just wondering, but exactly who should he have supported? It’s not like there was an army of conservatives running in 08’.


39 posted on 05/27/2011 10:01:52 PM PDT by jsdjason
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To: Jim 726


JUst another trial balloon floated by the "Anybody but Sarah" crowd.

Ain't going to happen.
40 posted on 05/27/2011 10:03:49 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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