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Group protests SWAT death of Tucson Marine (AZ)
azfamily.com ^ | 30 May, 2011 | Associated Press and Jared Dillingham

Posted on 05/31/2011 6:10:34 AM PDT by marktwain

TUCSON, Ariz. – The death of a former Marine near Tucson continues to stir controversy.

A group spent this Memorial Day protesting the SWAT raid which led to his death. Investigation documents reveal officers seized guns, banking documents and other items from the home but did not find drugs or cash.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: az; banglist; dupnik; guerena; joseguerena; oathkeepers; pimacounty; swat; tucson
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"The Pima County Sheriff's Office maintains the officers followed protocol during the raid"

They may have followed protocol. The question is whether the protocol was illegal or wrong.

1 posted on 05/31/2011 6:10:35 AM PDT by marktwain
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Sounds like a Lawsuit waiting to happen. The widow needs to be in contact with a lawyer.


2 posted on 05/31/2011 6:12:06 AM PDT by sr4402
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Protocol my a$$$! Did they go there to kill this guy and why?

Or was it another mistaken address due to a dispatcher who can't speak clearly?????

3 posted on 05/31/2011 6:15:51 AM PDT by FixitGuy (By their fruits shall ye know them!)
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Group protests SWAT murder of Tucson Marine.
4 posted on 05/31/2011 6:17:48 AM PDT by Dick Vomer (democrats are like flies, whatever they don't eat, they sh#t on.)
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Investigation documents reveal officers seized guns, banking documents...

Good thing they killed him. He had guns and banking documents.

5 posted on 05/31/2011 6:20:41 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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They are sure trying to not give the "Oath Keepers" the exposure in the press.

A group spent this Memorial Day protesting the SWAT raid which led to his death. Investigation documents reveal officers seized guns, banking documents and other items from the home but did not find drugs or cash.

6 posted on 05/31/2011 6:23:59 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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"officers followed protocol"

- Obtain search warrant (even if only a relative of the real suspects)

- Call out amateur SWAT team with dubious rules of engagement.

- Approach home at night.

- Alert residents of dubious characters casing the joint.

- Wait for residents to get to guns

- Knock, wait 4 seconds, blast door.

- Enter while tripping.

- See resident with gun

- Squeeze off 70 rounds (+ 1 breaching round)

- Withdraw

- Wait until resident has bled out

- Blame resident for his own death

- Receive commendations

7 posted on 05/31/2011 6:25:06 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: AAABEST

My goodness, he’s lucky he didn’t build a brick wall around his lot ~ they’d called it a COMPOUND!


8 posted on 05/31/2011 6:55:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower; archy; Squantos; CodeToad

Everybody should read the critiques of the raid based on the helmet cam video by a former SWAT cop.

This was the Keystone Kommandos, bungling and stumbling their way into this fatal fiasco.

If/when it goes to court, SWAT experts are going to solidly condemn this Tucson cluster foxtrot.


9 posted on 05/31/2011 6:57:09 AM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is in print and on Kindle.)
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To: marktwain

Mark!


10 posted on 05/31/2011 6:58:55 AM PDT by sport
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To: Texas Fossil

Actually, they omitted the jewelery and cash they found and took from the report. But the good news is, they found everything they planted.


11 posted on 05/31/2011 7:02:04 AM PDT by sport
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“Approach home at night.”

I thought it was around 9:30 AM, after he got home from a 12 hour night shift.


12 posted on 05/31/2011 7:07:29 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: marktwain

Protocol? Raid?

They barely entered, and started shooting.


13 posted on 05/31/2011 7:08:20 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
You are most likely correct. I was just working from memory.

The other point not covered to date was: Given that there were 4 houses more or less simultaneously (protected and) served and this house was most likely the one of least interest, there would have been four SWAT teams with this one most likely being The D Team.

14 posted on 05/31/2011 7:17:21 AM PDT by Paladin2
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SWAT officers have stated that they were briefed that he was THE “bad guy “ that very morning.
As sad as it is, it seems his was the “A” team.


15 posted on 05/31/2011 7:29:07 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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“If/when it goes to court, SWAT experts are going to solidly condemn this Tucson cluster foxtrot.”

I sure as Hell hope so. Those criminals need to go to prison.


16 posted on 05/31/2011 7:30:50 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: PalmettoMason

So were there SWAT teams at the other locations?


17 posted on 05/31/2011 8:41:45 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

So, why didn’t they arrest him as he went to or left from work...


18 posted on 05/31/2011 8:44:32 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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“So, why didn’t they arrest him as he went to or left from work...”

As I’ve posted many times, I think they should have served the search warrant on the wife while he was at work. No SWAT required. But I guess the logistics of four simultaneous house raids may have made that difficult.


19 posted on 05/31/2011 8:52:50 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

They should have the sheriff serve the warrant after knocking on the door and waiting for the occupant to answer.

“Putting on the big boy pants and doing your job” must be considered too scary.


20 posted on 05/31/2011 8:55:14 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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