Posted on 06/03/2011 3:30:05 PM PDT by justlittleoleme
Beginning in June of 2011, all new cars manufactured and sold in the United States will be required to have a mandated black box device installed, which can be used to monitor several different physical and technical data points.
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The installation and use of these black boxes can have infinite possibilities for local, state, and federal governments to monitor and record data for a number of other revenue programs that are currently under consideration. In March, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) issued a proposal to institute a tax on mileage to help pay for the federal budget deficit. Additionally, local cities and counties can download information from these black boxes, and they can be used to issue driving citations after the fact in the case of speeding or not wearing a seat belt.
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Heard about this on Farcebook. This will be so they can get you for speeding and if they ever implement the tax by mile driven law. I won’t be buying new unless it’s a Dodge Challenger R/T and that will only be driven on weekends, if that.
It’ll be fun to inject signals through those and probe them for modification considerations. Many things about the default ahead are going to be fun.
Just fine then, I’m not buying any new cars!
Job opening: Creator of black box blockers.
What law passed by Congress enables this?
Which is why I'll still be driving my $100 Mercedes.
The only reason for these black boxes is for government to ticket any speeding. Right now you think this is not possible. Well many of the new GPS devices in cars now have posted speed limits on many highways and also indicate your speed. Think!!!!!!!!!!! Every black box will identify each every car and not much brain power to see what they are doing.
Who knew one of the first Big Brother devices would be in vehicles? This seems like it might be further along for actual implementation (recording behavior) than the smart meters now being installed in many homes.
These Little Stalins will never stop until they are soundly defeated at the ballot box and removed from power for the long term.
This may have been part of the original plan for the “cash for clunkers - PART 1” program.
Very nice. Where is the landscape behind the car. It looks very rugged.
Since you posted that nice MB 2ndDivisionVet, I have a question. Looking at the two seat convertible series (SL?) as a restoration project and the prices for these vehicles (at all engine sizes) are scarey low: $2,500 to $5,000 oftentimes.
Why are such classy looking cars priced in that range? There must be something to account for this: expensive replacement parts, few qualified mechanics, or?
My 65 convertible Mustang (six cylinder) was stolen. I work on everything but transmissions, and am looking at MB’s roadster. Thanks for any comments/advice.
Guess I’m buying used from here on out!
I thought this was being proposed but not officially law.
“Looking at the two seat convertible series (SL?) as a restoration project and the prices for these vehicles (at all engine sizes) are scarey low: $2,500 to $5,000 oftentimes.”
If you think THAT’S scary, you should see what restoring them costs. As the owner of more than one of those:
1. Run, don’t walk, from a rusty car. There’s 10x more than you can see. Even if you can do the work yourself, this is not a Camaro with numerous, competitive suppliers of aftermarket parts.
2. Unless you are industrious and do the work yourself (for fun, not profit), look for a good, lower-mileage, well-maintained (with records) car that is ready to go.
Can’t find the law,
but here is where it was proposed.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/29/AR2010042904700.html
Mechanics for an old diesel like mine aren’t standing on every street corner, but I’ve found them. I can buy many parts at O’Reilly’s, believe it or not, so that’s not bad, either. I don’t know why they are so low. I lucked into mine, it belonged to a friend of my mother. She had purchased a two door C-class and her heirs were fighting over the old MB. I had already expressed interest in buying it for $2,000, but she was disgusted with them and sold it to me for $100. That was in 2005. I’ve probably had to spend less than $1,000 in repairs since then. Diesel is more expensive than gasoline, but I don’t drive that much. It only has about 156,000 miles on it.
Congress needs to legislate that:
(1)Such “black boxes” are voluntary and optional equipment from the manufacturer;
(2)Optionally installed only at the vehicle buyer’s/owner’s request;
(3)and may not include means for the data to be remotely accessed by anyone for any reason;
(4)and may not be used to track or collect immediate or historical data for purposes of taxation based on driving habits or for law enforcement fishing expeditions on hitherto unknown driving infractions.
If insurers want to offer a better auto insurance policy rate for installing a “black box” and an individual wants to obtain a policy that reflects a rate predicated on having a “black box” installed, then it should be the owner’s option to ask the dealer to be sure the car purchased has a “black box”. If the person and/or their insurance company chose not to seek any benefit of a “black box”, that choice should be lawful.
It’s a pic off the Internet. Probably Arizona. My car is exactly the same except for the white walls.
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