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Alabama Passes Mandatory E-Verify & Immigration Enforcement Bill
NumbersUSA ^ | 6/3/2011 | lwoodham

Posted on 06/03/2011 10:10:03 PM PDT by lwoodham

Alabama Passes Mandatory E-Verify & Immigration Enforcement Bill

Friday, June 3, 2011, 1:25 PM EDT

An Alabama House and Senate conference committee agreed on a new bill, which both chambers have already passed, that requires the use of E-Verify by all businesses in the state and includes several immigration enforcement provisions. Should Gov. Robert Bentley sign the bill into law, it would become one of the largest state crackdowns on illegal immigration in the country.

The bill requires all businesses, public and private, to begin using E-Verify effective April 1, 2012. Businesses that do not comply face suspension of its business license and loss of employee expensing for state income tax purposes. All state and local businesses must be in compliance by Jan. 1, 2012 or face loss of business license and contract.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: alabama; aliens; backgroundcheck; business; contract; employee; enforcement; everify; illegal; illegalaliens; immigration; license; private; public; senate; statesrights
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To: kabar
Either we abide by the Rule of Law or we do not.

Not going to happen...to those who are crooks and thiefs laws are only a guidline for them to see how far away from that line they can operate without actually breaking those laws...loopholes come to mind.

Additionally, we have a Pres. who now bypasses our constititutional laws...as a leader he sets the tome of how people look at the laws of our land...so no brainer that companies and illegals will surely find a way to work around E-Verify as well.

The only businesses that will thrive are those providing flse documentation etc. in order to bypass the E-verify. I can see bribes etc. esculating as people more and more find themself in economic straits.

101 posted on 06/04/2011 8:02:00 PM PDT by caww
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To: DariusBane

The burden and responsibility lies at the local level with the businessman. The tools are there. Even if our government was doing its job right now, there are millions here now who don’t belong here. Making sure an American gets the job is up to the businessman, who should not just try to walk away from that responsibility.


102 posted on 06/04/2011 8:21:05 PM PDT by doug from upland (website reserved just in case: TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: doug from upland

Give me a break Doug!

The boders are open. Free health care. Free education. The ability to drive on our streets, live in the open buy houses and property with no fear of deportation????? Are you kidding me? I will be willing to make an effort when society makes a real effort. Right now it’s just a bunch of b.s.

This village sucks. It is unbelievable that it could be so bad somewhere else that they would want to come here.


103 posted on 06/04/2011 8:42:05 PM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: kabar
The Supreme Court approved the Arizona law.

But Janet Napolitano told the governor of South Carolina that E-Verify can't be used to check immigration status.

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/on-the-record/transcript/haley-vs-napolitano-e-verify-and-illegal-immigration

So, we have the court approving the law. And the Department of Homeland Security making it impossible to enforce.

104 posted on 06/04/2011 8:57:43 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: lwoodham
Will the administration fight this? Of course they will, but does that mean we should not take a stand for what's right for this country?

I hope I gave no indication that I supported throwing up our hands and giving up.

Certainly, we need to keep the pressure on. Through he courts. Through the states. Through the ballot box. And through are own media.

105 posted on 06/04/2011 9:00:28 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

See my post #96. Check out the link. If you read what I wrote, you will notice that it is the I-9 form that has the photo and is used to match against what is in E-verify.


106 posted on 06/04/2011 9:18:24 PM PDT by kabar
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To: caww
The only businesses that will thrive are those providing flse documentation etc. in order to bypass the E-verify. I can see bribes etc. esculating as people more and more find themself in economic straits.

You just don't seem to understand what E-Verify is and how it operates. Check out the link below and perhaps you will gain some appreciation about what the program does and how effective it has been. There is a reason why the open borders, pro-amnesty types have fought this program tooth and nail and spent huge amounts in the courts trying to stop its implementation.

A Win for Arizona, and the Rule of Law

107 posted on 06/04/2011 9:23:55 PM PDT by kabar
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To: lwoodham

With all of those GOP pickups in the off-year elections, NOW is the time to do this. If you have a GOP governor, git ‘er done.


108 posted on 06/04/2011 9:27:57 PM PDT by Rockitz (This isn't rocket science- follow the money and you'll find truth.)
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To: kabar
Check out the link

I read it. Good article.

If you read what I wrote, you will notice that it is the I-9 form that has the photo and is used to match against what is in E-verify.

Got it, I-9 has a place for a photo. But you didn't answer my question: Where does e-verify get its photos to compare against the I-9s? I am assuming that e-verify does not have photos for everyone; correct me if I am wrong.

109 posted on 06/04/2011 9:33:59 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: okie01
The E-Verify law in AZ has been in operation since 2007. DHS has not prevented its implementation or operation. SCOTUS recently affirmed that the law is constititutional. This is not be confused with SB 1070, which is the law AZ passed last year, parts of which have suspended due to legal rulings and challenges that will eventually be decided in SCOTUS as well.

Re SC: I have read the transcript. There appears to be some confusion by the governor on the issue. E-Verify is a voluntary program that is in operation throughout the country, including South Carolina. DHS can't stop the program from operating in SC. The issue appears to be a dispute between that state and DHS about disclosure of information on the program by SC businesses to the government of SC.

Haley: "I'm not asking for numbers or identifying that would compromise these people. What we would are saying is show us the e-verify summary for last name only if you tell me you hired Douglas Walker and Smith, show me the summary sheet that says you e-verified them."

It would be interesting to learn what SC would do with that information. I have been involved with trying to get E-Verify passed in VA similar to the AZ law. So far, we have been able to make E-Verify mandatory for all state agencies, but we have been unable to pass mandatory use of E-Verify by all businesses in the state, i.e., if there is non-compliance, business licenses would be suspended. Under the AZ law, every citizen has standing reporting businesses that aren't in compliance. But I am not aware in the case of AZ of requiring businesses to submit compliance reports to the state. I would have to do further research to see what kind of E-Verify legislation has been passed in SC.

But the bottom line is that E-Verify has not been stopped in SC or anywhere else in the country by DHS. In fact, E-Verify is mandatory for all federal contractors. There could be privacy issues involved in releasing the kind of data SC wants from businesses using E-Verify.

110 posted on 06/04/2011 9:55:43 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
E-Verify photo matching
111 posted on 06/04/2011 9:59:01 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Here is the I-9 form
112 posted on 06/04/2011 10:03:24 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

I do understand...but that article says nothing whatsoever about how to prevent false documentations, which employers will be responsible for in providing that information to do the verification for E-Verify.


113 posted on 06/04/2011 10:09:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
I do understand...but that article says nothing whatsoever about how to prevent false documentations, which employers will be responsible for in providing that information to do the verification for E-Verify.

I suggest you go to the following link to get yourself up to speed on E-Verify and how it works: E-Verify

There are databases in SS and USCIS that are used to verify the information submitted by the employer and employee thur E-Verify and the I-9s. 98% of the illegals who steal SSNs use their own names. Obviously there would be a mismatch if the SSN is submitted using a different name. There is also data in the DHS files.

E-Verify works by comparing information entered from an employee's Form I-9 to:

455 million Social Security Administration (SSA) records80 million U.S. Department of Homeland Security recordsU.S. Department of Homeland Security databases contain records about employment-based visas, immigration and naturalization status, and U.S. passport issuance, which allow E-Verify to compare information against a wide variety of sources.

114 posted on 06/04/2011 10:27:30 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Employees have the right to present ANY acceptable documentation to complete Form I-9. Employers may NOT require an employee to present a specific document. Employers must accept the documents the new employee chooses to present as long as they APPEARTO BE GENUINE to be genuine and relate to the person presenting them. Otherwise, employers may violate federal law prohibiting discrimination in the verification process.

Last updated: 10/04/2010


115 posted on 06/04/2011 10:30:15 PM PDT by caww
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To: kabar

Thanks for the explanation.


116 posted on 06/04/2011 11:56:05 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Soothesayer9

There is a problem with illegals in almost EVERY state 9 maybe not Hawaii and Alaska, maybe)! It isn’t just about illegal Mexicans. Terrorists could easily enter here undetected to do their evil. Once in, they spread throughout the U.S.


117 posted on 06/05/2011 4:57:02 AM PDT by REPANDPROUDOFIT (General, Sir, it is perfectly ok to call me "Ma'am"!)
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To: fwdude

No time like the present to grow a pair.


118 posted on 06/05/2011 4:58:39 AM PDT by DangerZone (Close the primaries or say hello to Republican nominee for president Mitt Romney)
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To: caww

This is the reason why the I-9 should not be THE document for verifying that someone is legal and able to work. There is widespread fraud despite the Chamber of Commerce saying it is sufficient. It is the reason why E-Verify should be made mandatory nationwide as Lamar Smith is trying to do.


119 posted on 06/05/2011 7:49:26 AM PDT by kabar
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To: lwoodham

I fully support this bill. I think we need to crack down on illegal immigration. So everybody who was calling me a “libertarian” in a previous thread can read that statement.


120 posted on 06/05/2011 12:36:50 PM PDT by Brett11
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