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Florida doctors defend right to discuss guns with patients
reuters ^ | June 6, 2011 | Terry Baynes

Posted on 06/06/2011 5:28:16 PM PDT by PROCON

(Reuters) - A group of Florida physicians filed a federal lawsuit on Monday seeking to overturn a new state law that limits doctors' ability to ask patients about guns in the home.

The lawsuit, filed in Miami federal court, says the new law is an unconstitutional ban on physicians' free speech and prevents them from counseling patients on firearm safety.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; 2ndammendment; banglist; democrats; florida; liberalfascism; liberals; lossoflicense; nannystate; progressives; secondamendment; suspendtheirlicenses
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To: tet68
Well Dr. Y first let me ask, is your wife hot? does she put out for patients?

Actually, it's a good idea to dig up as much info on your doctor as he or she might ask of you. "So, how's the wife, doctor? I see you two listed as sponsors at the community theater for the performing arts.... you always attend on the opening night of each new play, correct? Gee, I think that's commendable..."

Hey, information is power. Use it.

61 posted on 06/06/2011 6:57:54 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: PROCON

And how many people have died from Doctor prescribed drugs...


62 posted on 06/06/2011 6:58:52 PM PDT by tubebender (Help! I've fallen, and I can't reach my wine!)
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To: PROCON

There is a simple response to these question.

1) What training have you taken that educates you on the issues of gun safety, gun laws and qualifies you to be both a legal expert and a firearm handling expert?

2) Are you prepared to assert yourself as an expert on gun safety, provide legal advice on the safe use of firearms in accordance with the laws of this state?

3) Are you prepared to assume full liability for any opinion you provide with regards to not only the proper care and handling of firearms but their legal and sometimes necessary defense of myself and or my family?


63 posted on 06/06/2011 7:08:52 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: PROCON
Doctor: Do you own any firearms?

Patient: Who's asking?

Doctor: As your Family Physician, I feel it is my responsibility to know the dangers in your Household.

Patient: I am the most dangerous thing in my Household. Best you keep your nose out of my business unless your specialty is Proctology.

64 posted on 06/06/2011 7:09:50 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (After the Commies take over, Moderates will become an endangered species...)
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To: SpaceBar

I would not doubt that as a possibility.

IMHO, obamacare was ALL about the “database”.


65 posted on 06/06/2011 7:13:28 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Jim Noble
Are you a pediatrician Jim?

Because the reason the law was enacted was primarily because pediatricians were routinely asking minor children, and recording those answers into databases unrelated to the medical health of specific patients, but easily available to information technology specialists, particularly those with a vested interest in supplying raw data to the feds ultimate dream project - TIA.

I can see why you might feel a need to ask, if you are prescribing medication that is mind altering and/or has a history of causing potentially severe mental depression. Or if you are dealing with a patient with mental disorders.

But Jim,ask yourself why "gun ownership in the household"would be a routine question in childhood pre-school vaccinations?

66 posted on 06/06/2011 7:13:46 PM PDT by sarasmom (God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy....)
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To: PROCON

You are also under no obligation to tell the truth. I mean, I don’t own any guns. I never have owned guns.


67 posted on 06/06/2011 7:14:40 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: PROCON
More children are drowned in five-gallon buckets every year than killed by guns.

Do they ask if there are any five-gallon buckets in the house?

68 posted on 06/06/2011 7:16:09 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: PROCON

Hey Doc, how many semester hours of gun safety do you have?

Why would you presume to lecture me on a subject for which you have no formal training?


69 posted on 06/06/2011 7:19:17 PM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: PROCON
Dr. Mengele would be proud.

Heil Hitler!

70 posted on 06/06/2011 7:19:20 PM PDT by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: PROCON

Medical “mischief” and incompetence kills MANY more than ANY firearm wielded by a law-abiding citizen.


71 posted on 06/06/2011 7:21:13 PM PDT by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: PROCON

“”and prevents them from counseling patients on firearm safety.””

Why on earth would any doctor think a patient of theirs would need to consult with them on firearm safety??? That’s just plain idiotic but I’m sure some court somewhere will agree with him!


72 posted on 06/06/2011 7:21:17 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: momtothree

Re: removal of gun from portion of anatomy...
My husband informed our neighbor THAT was exactly where the pellet rifle would be inserted if said neighbor and his kids ever tormented my horse with it again.


73 posted on 06/06/2011 7:23:11 PM PDT by bog trotter
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To: PROCON

“”Please give an example when asking the question would be necessary barring a gun wound incident? “”

I was going to ask the same question. Looks like we’ll be waiting awhile for an answer to your question. I don’t feel like waiting all night....


74 posted on 06/06/2011 7:25:15 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: bog trotter

Good for him! Tormenting a poor horse? I hope they stopped. I got the feeling that they realized your husband was extremely serious!


75 posted on 06/06/2011 7:25:42 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: PROCON

Gun wound incident #1

Suicidal ideation #2 (Means available is standard of care, everywhere)

Homicidal ideation #3 (Realism of plan is standard of care, everywhere)

Thanks.


76 posted on 06/06/2011 7:28:59 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: taxcontrol
There is a simple response to these question.

Good points, but I wouldn't have been so diplomatic.

BTW, I was in Bamberg, W. Germany too, from 76-79 with the 6/10 FA; what a great town, IMHO!

77 posted on 06/06/2011 7:29:49 PM PDT by PROCON (Liberals Mistake Education and Knowledge for Wisdom and Common Sense.)
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To: Jim Noble

I understand those three incidents especially the suicidal/homicidal ideations. I figured that some people with a confirmed mental illness should be asked. Whether they answer or not truthfully is a whole different ball of wax.


78 posted on 06/06/2011 7:32:03 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: sarasmom
Are you a pediatrician Jim?

NO, and I answer "none of your business" when the pediatrician asks.

But I've posted 3 reasons to ask upthread, and if you think it's a good idea for Florida state legislators to tell me my business, they'll be into YOUR business next, if they aren't already.

79 posted on 06/06/2011 7:32:17 PM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: momtothree

I believe this whole thing got started because of reports that doctors were asking children if their parents owned guns.

That is unacceptable. I also see no point whatever in a doctor asking if an adult owns guns ... unless he’s a gun nut and just making conversation.

I mean, it would be okay if he or she asked if you owned golf clubs or a bowling shirt.


80 posted on 06/06/2011 7:32:19 PM PDT by altura ( Palin/Ryan---or Palin/anybody (removed Cain because of Bush bashing.))
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