Skip to comments.Here Comes Peter Cottontail Hopping Down the Statist Trail: Feds Fine Missouri Farmer $90,000
Posted on 06/09/2011 8:21:50 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
The definition of totalitarian is: of or pertaining to a centralized government that does not tolerate parties of differing opinion and that exercises dictatorial control over many aspects of life. [Emphasis added.] And while were not quite there yet we still do hear other (mostly stupid) opinions read the following and tell me if our government doesnt meet the italicized portion of the above definition.
Rural Missouri farmer John Dollarhite was just fined $90,000 by our central government for engaging in a commercial endeavor.
Was he an illegal alien running drugs across our border?
No, such people benefit from a Department of Injustice that takes their side against Border Patrol agents.
Was a prostitution ring being run out of his home?
No, such people are rewarded with reelection to Congress.
Rather, Dollarhites dastardly sin was that he started a business selling rabbits.
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This is a lie, he was fine for running an illegal slaughter house. Some of you people are as bad as the stinking government when it comes to distorting the facts.
Rather, Dollarhites dastardly sin was that he started a business selling rabbits.
Do you have any facts to support your statement?
Your claim is the first indication of doing anything other than selling rabbits. The articles I have read said the Dpt of Agriculture tracked him down via receipts from a Branson petting zoo.
Really? The author links up to the farmer’s website, which is in an Internet archiving service. And it advertises nothing but rabbits being sold as pets.
Anyway, where does the Constitution say that the feds can control the slaughterhouse business if there’s no interstate commerce?
Don’t be a sheeple.
Here is their current website. http://www.dollarvaluerabbitry.com/
“We shut down our rabbit company in January of 2010”
Back when they had their massive crime enterprise running, their website looked like this.
As you can see, they were a great danger to the stability of the Republic and of even the EARTH!
PS It arrears that the Feds are backing down. http://biggovernment.com/tag/john-dollarhite/
The average USDA fine is $ 333.33 per case.
could you post a link or something so I could see what you are refering to? There has to be more than just selling rabbits and I am intersted in see all the facts in this matter
I saw a small handwritten sign on a farm that was selling rabbits that said “Tasty or Cuddly”.
A woman featured in Michael Moore’s first movie, Roger and Me, had a business selling rabbits out of her home “for pets or meat”. After appearing in that film the state shut her down because she was not in compliance with regulations. So she lost her livelihood and Moore did not even cut her in on the royalties from the film.
I was raised on a farm, sold animals nearly my whole life. You can raise and sell any kind of animal. There are some restrictions on people selling pets and having more than they can take care of. But you can sell what ever you wish. But you may not sell fresh meat with out a slaughter house license and a government inspection. And the same story was posted here a couple of weeks ago.
Org, you don’t seem very well informed. Where does the Constitution say that the feds can regulate the slaughterhouse business where there is no interstate commerce? And that’s assuming that what you say is true.
This is just another wrong perpetrated by the gubment.
Yet people, conservatives keep ceding power to the government. They cede power in big ways and small ways. I always argue against it but proponents can always find a good reason that people will buy into.
” but proponents can always find a good reason that people will buy into “
It’s for the CHILL-run!!!!!!
Who decides an illegal slaughter house? Is this like an illegal farm? How could a slaughter house be illegal, particularly at the Federal level?
This is a symptom of how we are headed down a dangerous road. The government is the biggest evilest corporation of all and everything they do is for thier own convenience and for thier own protection. Regulating nearly every aspect of life is thier business and thier biggest growth area. We have got to stop thinking of the Government as somehow able or even concerned with doing the right thing, but as what it really has become, an inherently evil and even demonic force that will only disappoint us all in the end.
Instead of looking to Government to fix the economy, or help people, we should fix it opurselves and help ourselves. Think of the President and Congress as the President and the Congress of the Government, and not necessarily as the President and the Congress of the People.
Obama can not fix the economy and neither can a Republican. All they can do is increase or decrease the scope and power of the Government over our lives. The economy is more subject to the waves of human creativity than it is to Government interference and manipulation. Think of the big things like steel, electricity, the automobile, oil, mass production, antibiotics, electronics, and the internet. These are the waves of the next big things that shapes our lives.
The Progressives since Roosevelt and before think the next big thing can be created and sustained by the Government in the form of Government programs such as the New Deal, The Great Society, and ObamaCare. Of course the debt we are in shows that these are unsustainable just as the unlimted piles of horse crap in the streets of America's cities made the Horse and Buggy unsustainable.
Let us all pray for the next big thing. I can only hope it is an energy related breakthrough. With enough energy, everything under the sun is possible. Plentiful cheap energy is the new Tower of Babel and that energy combined with our technology (and the miracle TC/IP) will make anything possible.
Sick puppies of one eyed nuns
Org, I did a little research and the following is from a site that actually takes the USDA’s side.
“John Dollarhite is a breeder located in Nixa, Missouri. Between April of 2008 and December of 2009, Dollarhite sold 619 animals in 56 separate transactions to two different pet stores. Large volume sales of pets require that the breeder be licensed with the USDA. By being licensed, the facility is periodically inspected by USDA APHIS inspectors to ensure the animals are being adequately cared for.”
So the farmer wasn’t cited for selling rabbits as meat but as pets. Also, try activating those neurons between your ears. Just because the feds pass an act doesn’t mean it’s constitutional. The jack-booted thugs have been violating the Constitution for 100 years.
Get with the program.
There is your link to the act, it was passed in 1906: cannot believe you did not know it. There has been revisions since then, covering instate activities, Florida had really slack laws for years, that was fixed back in the seventies I believe. The only exemption is there is no law against you sharing with your friends and neighbors.
Roflol, take it to court. And he was fined for advertising and selling meat.
Look, we have thousands of people die from eating bad meat, and from E Coli. So if you do not like the old laws about meat processing you get all you friend together and lobby congress. Just say you demand the right to kill your fellow citizens. You will find very thin support.
Apparently Rural Missouri farmer John Dollarhite, wasn’t one of Holder’s people and he didn’t employ illegal aliens.
Again, you don’t seem to get it. I couldn’t care less when the act was passed. If it’s unconstitutional, it’s unconstitutional.
I have no problem with the states regulating slaughterhouses and large scale animal breeding. But I have a huge problem with the feds doing it because they have no constitutional right to do it.
But I do stand corrected. I said that the feds have been violating the Constitution for 100 years. But if that unconstitutional act was passed in 1906, then the feds have been violating the Constitution for 105 years.
Do you by chance work for the federal government?
Aside from the issue of large breeding operations having satisfactory health/facility standards, might this also have anything to do with the danger of tuleremia (or whatever that Rabbit disease is called)?
Does having known and sleeping with a lady that worked for the IRS count. I was divorced at the time, have no idea where the wonderful lady is today. But that was the only relationship other than I am a veteran.
Hey genius, you really are something. Did you actually read the article you provided a link for? Here is the relevant part of it:
“When a local pet store asked them to supply their pet rabbits, the Dollarhites had no idea they would be running afoul of an obscure federal regulation that prohibits selling more than $500 worth of rabbits to a pet store without a license from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA). Under the law, pet stores are exempt from regulation.”
So the rest of us were right and you were wrong. The farmer was cited for selling rabbits as PETS, not as meat. Do you get it yet?
Also, this article you provided doesn’t help your argument in any way. It paints a picture of a heavy-handed fed gov. that wanted “to make an example out of [the farmer].” That’s what the article says.
Man you’re dense.
The investigation was for selling meat, genius, and you are the one that claimed they were not selling habit meat.
Now who’s lying? That’s not what your article says.
“By by selling to pet stores for resale, the humble Dollarhites became wholesale breeders of pet animals, said Dave Sacks, a spokesman for USDA who defended the fine, even while admitting it looks curious to the average person.”
But I get it. I’ve tweaked your ego and now you’re too proud to just say, hey, you’re right. I got that wrong.
Pride goeth before a fall.
Cat walking on your keyboard again?
If you have details that we don’t know about, that is what FR is all about. Getting to the bottom of the story.
Tell us more.
Sometimes I've seen end-justifies-the-means arguments in support of federal regulations offered as a substitute for an enumerated power.
Over the years I've found that those arguments seem especially prevalent among people who are or were career government employees, but it isn't always the case.
Droid,Droid, little key pad big thumbs, and some times it changes words, however, the spell checker does not know how to spell Droid.
Have no idea what the law is about abusive pet animal breeding, but they caught one guy about 60 miles from where I lived with hundreds of female dogs, said the cages had never been cleaned. Do not know, but they should have put him under the jail.
One would think that his customers could judge whether the animals they were getting were healthy and well-cared for. But I guess nothing is officially true until a government inspector says it is. Or is it, 'until it is officially denied' (ala Weiner)?
This is all getting so confusing...
Agreed. But that sounds like something for state or county laws to handle. It’s not right, but it’s not national security or a threat to the stability of the republic, either.
Org, I actually agree with you. But the point is that the ‘they’ who should have put him under the jail are state authorities, not federal ones. The Constitution simply doesn’t allow the feds to be involved in this. Is this that hard to understand?
I found the regs and it looks like they were in violation of some animal protection law and rules from back in the 90’s. Maybe this was in addition to the things you mention but this is what they were charged with / about.
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