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Here Comes Peter Cottontail Hopping Down the Statist Trail: Feds Fine Missouri Farmer $90,000
The New American ^ | Thursday, 09 June 2011 | Selwyn Duke

Posted on 06/09/2011 8:21:50 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer

The definition of “totalitarian” is: “of or pertaining to a centralized government that does not tolerate parties of differing opinion and that exercises dictatorial control over many aspects of life. [Emphasis added.]” And while we’re not quite there yet — we still do hear other (mostly stupid) opinions — read the following and tell me if our government doesn’t meet the italicized portion of the above definition.

Rural Missouri farmer John Dollarhite was just fined $90,000 by our central government for engaging in a commercial endeavor.

Was he an illegal alien running drugs across our border?

No, such people benefit from a Department of Injustice that takes their side against Border Patrol agents.

Was a prostitution ring being run out of his home?

No, such people are rewarded with reelection to Congress.

Rather, Dollarhite’s dastardly sin was that he started a business selling rabbits.

(Excerpt) Read more at thenewamerican.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: farmer; federal; fine; rabbits
This is tyranny! It's time for a revolution.
1 posted on 06/09/2011 8:21:53 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: Paladins Prayer

This is a lie, he was fine for running an illegal slaughter house. Some of you people are as bad as the stinking government when it comes to distorting the facts.


2 posted on 06/09/2011 8:32:34 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Paladins Prayer

Rather, Dollarhite’s dastardly sin was that he started a business selling rabbits.


Should have been in the weiner buisness. I can’t think of anything else to say.................


3 posted on 06/09/2011 8:36:19 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( getting closer to the truth.................)
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To: org.whodat

Do you have any facts to support your statement?

Your claim is the first indication of doing anything other than selling rabbits. The articles I have read said the Dpt of Agriculture tracked him down via receipts from a Branson petting zoo.


4 posted on 06/09/2011 8:37:04 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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To: org.whodat

Really? The author links up to the farmer’s website, which is in an Internet archiving service. And it advertises nothing but rabbits being sold as pets.

Anyway, where does the Constitution say that the feds can control the slaughterhouse business if there’s no interstate commerce?

Don’t be a sheeple.


5 posted on 06/09/2011 8:38:04 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: Paladins Prayer

Here is their current website. http://www.dollarvaluerabbitry.com/

“We shut down our rabbit company in January of 2010”

Back when they had their massive crime enterprise running, their website looked like this.
http://classic-web.archive.org/web/20080401031828/http:/www.dollarvaluerabbitry.com/

As you can see, they were a great danger to the stability of the Republic and of even the EARTH!

/sarc

PS It arrears that the Feds are backing down. http://biggovernment.com/tag/john-dollarhite/

The average USDA fine is $ 333.33 per case.


6 posted on 06/09/2011 8:40:33 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know.)
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To: org.whodat

could you post a link or something so I could see what you are refering to? There has to be more than just selling rabbits and I am intersted in see all the facts in this matter


7 posted on 06/09/2011 8:47:27 AM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: Paladins Prayer

I saw a small handwritten sign on a farm that was selling rabbits that said “Tasty or Cuddly”.


8 posted on 06/09/2011 8:51:47 AM PDT by ParityErr (It's impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious.)
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth
Just google the person name, you will find old ads advertising rabbit meat.
9 posted on 06/09/2011 8:51:52 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Paladins Prayer

A woman featured in Michael Moore’s first movie, Roger and Me, had a business selling rabbits out of her home “for pets or meat”. After appearing in that film the state shut her down because she was not in compliance with regulations. So she lost her livelihood and Moore did not even cut her in on the royalties from the film.


10 posted on 06/09/2011 8:53:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Sequoyah101
Google the persons name.

I was raised on a farm, sold animals nearly my whole life. You can raise and sell any kind of animal. There are some restrictions on people selling pets and having more than they can take care of. But you can sell what ever you wish. But you may not sell fresh meat with out a slaughter house license and a government inspection. And the same story was posted here a couple of weeks ago.

11 posted on 06/09/2011 8:59:03 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

Org, you don’t seem very well informed. Where does the Constitution say that the feds can regulate the slaughterhouse business where there is no interstate commerce? And that’s assuming that what you say is true.


12 posted on 06/09/2011 9:18:53 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: Paladins Prayer

This is just another wrong perpetrated by the gubment.

Yet people, conservatives keep ceding power to the government. They cede power in big ways and small ways. I always argue against it but proponents can always find a good reason that people will buy into.


13 posted on 06/09/2011 9:22:01 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: DariusBane

” but proponents can always find a good reason that people will buy into “

It’s for the CHILL-run!!!!!!


14 posted on 06/09/2011 9:24:24 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Paladins Prayer

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Meat_Inspection_Act


15 posted on 06/09/2011 9:25:22 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat
This is a lie, he was fine for running an illegal slaughter house. Some of you people are as bad as the stinking government when it comes to distorting the facts.

Who decides an illegal slaughter house? Is this like an illegal farm? How could a slaughter house be illegal, particularly at the Federal level?

This is a symptom of how we are headed down a dangerous road. The government is the biggest evilest corporation of all and everything they do is for thier own convenience and for thier own protection. Regulating nearly every aspect of life is thier business and thier biggest growth area. We have got to stop thinking of the Government as somehow able or even concerned with doing the right thing, but as what it really has become, an inherently evil and even demonic force that will only disappoint us all in the end.

Instead of looking to Government to fix the economy, or help people, we should fix it opurselves and help ourselves. Think of the President and Congress as the President and the Congress of the Government, and not necessarily as the President and the Congress of the People.

Obama can not fix the economy and neither can a Republican. All they can do is increase or decrease the scope and power of the Government over our lives. The economy is more subject to the waves of human creativity than it is to Government interference and manipulation. Think of the big things like steel, electricity, the automobile, oil, mass production, antibiotics, electronics, and the internet. These are the waves of the next big things that shapes our lives.

The Progressives since Roosevelt and before think the next big thing can be created and sustained by the Government in the form of Government programs such as the New Deal, The Great Society, and ObamaCare. Of course the debt we are in shows that these are unsustainable just as the unlimted piles of horse crap in the streets of America's cities made the Horse and Buggy unsustainable.

Let us all pray for the next big thing. I can only hope it is an energy related breakthrough. With enough energy, everything under the sun is possible. Plentiful cheap energy is the new Tower of Babel and that energy combined with our technology (and the miracle TC/IP) will make anything possible.

16 posted on 06/09/2011 9:26:21 AM PDT by BRK
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To: Uncle Ike

Sick puppies of one eyed nuns


17 posted on 06/09/2011 9:26:21 AM PDT by DariusBane (People are like sheep and have two speeds: grazing and stampede)
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To: org.whodat

Org, I did a little research and the following is from a site that actually takes the USDA’s side.

“John Dollarhite is a breeder located in Nixa, Missouri. Between April of 2008 and December of 2009, Dollarhite sold 619 animals in 56 separate transactions to two different pet stores. Large volume sales of pets require that the breeder be licensed with the USDA. By being licensed, the facility is periodically inspected by USDA APHIS inspectors to ensure the animals are being adequately cared for.”

So the farmer wasn’t cited for selling rabbits as meat but as pets. Also, try activating those neurons between your ears. Just because the feds pass an act doesn’t mean it’s constitutional. The jack-booted thugs have been violating the Constitution for 100 years.

Get with the program.


18 posted on 06/09/2011 9:29:03 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: Paladins Prayer

There is your link to the act, it was passed in 1906: cannot believe you did not know it. There has been revisions since then, covering instate activities, Florida had really slack laws for years, that was fixed back in the seventies I believe. The only exemption is there is no law against you sharing with your friends and neighbors.


19 posted on 06/09/2011 9:30:31 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Paladins Prayer

Roflol, take it to court. And he was fined for advertising and selling meat.


20 posted on 06/09/2011 9:33:05 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: BRK

Look, we have thousands of people die from eating bad meat, and from E Coli. So if you do not like the old laws about meat processing you get all you friend together and lobby congress. Just say you demand the right to kill your fellow citizens. You will find very thin support.


21 posted on 06/09/2011 9:39:13 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Paladins Prayer

Apparently Rural Missouri farmer John Dollarhite, wasn’t one of Holder’s people and he didn’t employ illegal aliens.


22 posted on 06/09/2011 9:41:19 AM PDT by Gator113 ("GAME ON." I'll be voting for Sarah Palin, Liberty, our Constitution and American Exceptionalism.)
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To: org.whodat

Again, you don’t seem to get it. I couldn’t care less when the act was passed. If it’s unconstitutional, it’s unconstitutional.

I have no problem with the states regulating slaughterhouses and large scale animal breeding. But I have a huge problem with the feds doing it because they have no constitutional right to do it.

But I do stand corrected. I said that the feds have been violating the Constitution for 100 years. But if that unconstitutional act was passed in 1906, then the feds have been violating the Constitution for 105 years.


23 posted on 06/09/2011 9:41:28 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: org.whodat

Do you by chance work for the federal government?


24 posted on 06/09/2011 9:41:41 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: org.whodat; Paladins Prayer; All

Aside from the issue of large breeding operations having satisfactory health/facility standards, might this also have anything to do with the danger of tuleremia (or whatever that Rabbit disease is called)?


25 posted on 06/09/2011 9:43:26 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: tacticalogic

Does having known and sleeping with a lady that worked for the IRS count. I was divorced at the time, have no idea where the wonderful lady is today. But that was the only relationship other than I am a veteran.


26 posted on 06/09/2011 9:50:11 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: tacticalogic
"John and judy dollarhite begin selling rabbit meat by the pound in 2006."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110524/pl_dailycaller/usdafinesmissourifamily90kforsellingafewrabbitswithoutalicense

27 posted on 06/09/2011 9:58:27 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

Hey genius, you really are something. Did you actually read the article you provided a link for? Here is the relevant part of it:

“When a local pet store asked them to supply their pet rabbits, the Dollarhites had no idea they would be running afoul of an obscure federal regulation that prohibits selling more than $500 worth of rabbits to a pet store without a license from the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA). Under the law, pet stores are exempt from regulation.”

So the rest of us were right and you were wrong. The farmer was cited for selling rabbits as PETS, not as meat. Do you get it yet?

Also, this article you provided doesn’t help your argument in any way. It paints a picture of a heavy-handed fed gov. that wanted “to make an example out of [the farmer].” That’s what the article says.

Man you’re dense.


28 posted on 06/09/2011 10:09:31 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: Paladins Prayer

The investigation was for selling meat, genius, and you are the one that claimed they were not selling habit meat.


29 posted on 06/09/2011 10:13:50 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat

Now who’s lying? That’s not what your article says.

“By by selling to pet stores for resale, the humble Dollarhites became “wholesale breeders of pet animals,” said Dave Sacks, a spokesman for USDA who defended the fine, even while admitting it “looks curious” to the average person.”

But I get it. I’ve tweaked your ego and now you’re too proud to just say, hey, you’re right. I got that wrong.

Pride goeth before a fall.


30 posted on 06/09/2011 10:24:21 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: org.whodat

Cat walking on your keyboard again?

If you have details that we don’t know about, that is what FR is all about. Getting to the bottom of the story.

Tell us more.


31 posted on 06/09/2011 10:26:39 AM PDT by listenhillary (Social Justice is the epitome of injustice.)
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To: org.whodat
Okay.

Sometimes I've seen end-justifies-the-means arguments in support of federal regulations offered as a substitute for an enumerated power.

Over the years I've found that those arguments seem especially prevalent among people who are or were career government employees, but it isn't always the case.

32 posted on 06/09/2011 10:38:45 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: listenhillary

Droid,Droid, little key pad big thumbs, and some times it changes words, however, the spell checker does not know how to spell Droid.


33 posted on 06/09/2011 10:40:39 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: tacticalogic

Have no idea what the law is about abusive pet animal breeding, but they caught one guy about 60 miles from where I lived with hundreds of female dogs, said the cages had never been cleaned. Do not know, but they should have put him under the jail.


34 posted on 06/09/2011 10:46:33 AM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Paladins Prayer
"By being licensed, the facility is periodically inspected by USDA APHIS inspectors to ensure the animals are being adequately cared for.”

One would think that his customers could judge whether the animals they were getting were healthy and well-cared for. But I guess nothing is officially true until a government inspector says it is. Or is it, 'until it is officially denied' (ala Weiner)?

This is all getting so confusing...

35 posted on 06/09/2011 10:54:31 AM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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To: org.whodat

Agreed. But that sounds like something for state or county laws to handle. It’s not right, but it’s not national security or a threat to the stability of the republic, either.


36 posted on 06/09/2011 11:01:53 AM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: org.whodat

Org, I actually agree with you. But the point is that the ‘they’ who should have put him under the jail are state authorities, not federal ones. The Constitution simply doesn’t allow the feds to be involved in this. Is this that hard to understand?


37 posted on 06/09/2011 11:36:52 AM PDT by Paladins Prayer
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To: org.whodat

I found the regs and it looks like they were in violation of some animal protection law and rules from back in the 90’s. Maybe this was in addition to the things you mention but this is what they were charged with / about.


38 posted on 06/10/2011 3:58:32 AM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Half the people are below average.)
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