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I found the people making comments to be more insightful than Alan Keyes on this particular subject:

Mark as SpamReport as AbuseD. Willard (signed in using Hotmail)

Mr. Keyes, please get yourself read-in on the difference between Islam as a religion, and Islam as a political agenda. ...

Mark as SpamReport as Abusecrescen7 (signed in using Yahoo)

Alan Keyes should be ashamed of himself, such drivel is far below his usually sound logic. First, his Constitutional "religious test" analysis is 180 degrees out of phase. The clear intent of the "religious test" clause was to not exclude all except those that practiced one certain religion. That is, could not establish a "requirement to be Catholic", for example. That does not mean that one could not exclude people who professed a religious belief that Constitutional Law was invalid. There are many Islamic leaders that profess exactly such a belief.

For Mr. Cain to state that he would be "uncomfortable" with Muslims until they demonstrated that they believed in Constitutional Law over Sharia Law, is not only reasonable but demanded by Constitution.

Mark as SpamReport as AbuseGreg Rainbolt

Exactly. Tightening job screening to a federal position of the executive brance to ensure the applicant has loyalty to the constitution is not in any way discriminatory and is much more important than political correctness. The usually sound Dr. Keyes is way off base in this one and it makes me wonder where his loyalties lie.

1 posted on 06/10/2011 2:46:38 PM PDT by Brookhaven
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To: Brookhaven

Islam is a political organization. Its overt instructions are to control the actual governing of people, muslim or not. No other religion does that.


2 posted on 06/10/2011 2:48:41 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Brookhaven

Maybe envy.


4 posted on 06/10/2011 2:52:47 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: Brookhaven
From the article: But the Constitution explicitly prohibits officials of the U.S. government from applying religion as a criterion for public trust, whatever their individual inclinations...

Well, at least Keyes doesn't make the same mistake that Romney, Lds "apostle" Dallas Oaks, Evangelical Romney campaigner Mark DeMoss, and a host of FREEPERS makes about Article VI of the Constitution. At least Keyes recognizes it applies to the U.S. government -- and not voters!

The others all twist and mangle the Constitution to say what they want it to say.

Still, and I'll need to recheck the Constitution, I don't think the words Keyes uses here -- "public trust" -- are in there. That was probably Keyes' extrapolation.

And why isn't Keyes also going after Romney, who declared in 2007 that he wouldn't have a Muslim on his Cabinet?

5 posted on 06/10/2011 2:56:26 PM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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To: Brookhaven

There are those who hide behind the constitution to destroy it and our liberty. The Muslims have been doing a good job of it. Peel back the layers of Islam, and you will find Satan laughing his ass off.


6 posted on 06/10/2011 2:58:02 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Brookhaven

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIEeiDjdUuU&feature=player_embedded#at=11


7 posted on 06/10/2011 2:59:24 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: Brookhaven

I’m not certain that islam is a “religion” and thus entitled to Constitutional protections. It’s something - - a theo-political system perhaps, a criminal enterprise masquerading as a religion - - but not a religion in the conventional sense. There should be a national debate on this question.


9 posted on 06/10/2011 3:05:46 PM PDT by Salvey
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To: Brookhaven
Cain's not proposing an executive order that respects an establishment of religion.
11 posted on 06/10/2011 3:13:04 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Brookhaven

In the interview I saw, Cain was asked about having a Muslim serve in his cabinet. Cabinet positions serve at the presidents pleasure, and he can appoint or not appoint anyone he wants based on whatever criteria he wants (subject to Senate confirmation of course). That is not a religious test for office, anymore than a citizen not voting for a candidate because he is, say Mormon, is, Passing a statute that no Muslim can hold a cabinet position would be.


12 posted on 06/10/2011 3:17:26 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: EternalVigilance

ping


14 posted on 06/10/2011 3:19:53 PM PDT by Artemis Webb (Perry 2012! A Conservative who can win!)
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To: Brookhaven

No, individuals who are member of anti-truth, anti-freedom, anti-individual, anti-life collectives need to be examined VERY closely. The U.S. Constitution is not a collectivist/totalitarian document. (It may devolve into that...(thanks anti-federalists)).

Life, liberty and the pursuit and destruction of totalitarians.


20 posted on 06/10/2011 3:29:44 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Brookhaven

The “no religious test” clause in the Constitution got there for the purpose of preventing Quaker dominated Pennsylvania from prohibiting non-Quakers from running for Congress!


21 posted on 06/10/2011 3:32:03 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Brookhaven

Dear Dr. Keyes:

The Constitution is not a suicide pact, nor should we allow our enemies to use the letter of the law to destroy the spirit of the law.


22 posted on 06/10/2011 3:36:49 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo
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To: Brookhaven
“On the Glenn Beck show, Herman Cain said he would require proof from Muslims they were loyal to America before they work for the United States government.”

This isn't what Herman Cain said. Herman Cain said he would not be comfortable with appointing one in his administration. So he didn't say anything about the millions of other federal jobs that are not administration “appointments”. He said he would want a Muslim to prove he supported the constitution. He went on to talk about Sharia Law and the dangers of Sharia Law.

23 posted on 06/10/2011 3:42:07 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Brookhaven

Islam is not just a religion, but also a political system. Just like with the Commies, the Muslims could be disqualified by having to attest to the following statement, which I’m sure many of you remember:

“Are you now or have you ever been a member of the [Communist Party/al Quaida] or any other organization which advocates the violent overthrow of the United States?”


25 posted on 06/10/2011 3:54:12 PM PDT by bopdowah ("Unlike King Midas, whatever the Gubmint touches sure don't turn to Gold!')
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To: Brookhaven; Bockscar

Bockscar is correct, and states it very well.

...and this statement makes me think MUCH higer of Cain!:
“Mr. Cain apparently believes that in today’s world Americans have good reason to distrust any follower of Islam.”

Maybe Mr Keynes thinks trying to overthrow the Constitution is a protected right also?

Islam by definition is seditious.
it’s members by definition do not recognize a government not under Sharia in the “House of Peace”.

and even if you haven’t read the Quran, Sira, and ahadith, 1300 years of incredible violent history, EVERYWHERE in the world Islam has been,
SHOULD make it clear even to someone as patently ignorant as Keynes.

if it walks like a duck...


30 posted on 06/10/2011 4:13:47 PM PDT by Elendur (the hope and change i need: Sarah / Colonel West in 2012)
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To: Brookhaven
I read the excerpted interview section.

Cain is not qualified for POTUS based on those statements alone.

That he thinks one religion can be subject to a separate criteria...and one that is CLEARLY unconstitutional...shows him another authoritarian with an agenda.

He'll never have my vote.

32 posted on 06/10/2011 4:30:19 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Brookhaven
"The clear intent of the "religious test" clause was to not exclude all except those that practiced one certain religion. That is, could not establish a "requirement to be Catholic", for example. That does not mean that one could not exclude people who professed a religious belief that Constitutional Law was invalid. There are many Islamic leaders that profess exactly such a belief."

This is exactly right, and moreover, I find NO Constitutional prohibition from an INDIVIDUAL (president, or whomever) making choices of who serves in his administration based on ANY guidelines he chooses. The GOVERNMENT cannot, but an individual absolutely can.

33 posted on 06/10/2011 4:33:11 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: Brookhaven

As I am one who considers Islam a war plan, Keys is practically correct.

If I’m not mistaken, Cain backed off the remarks in question.


46 posted on 06/10/2011 10:19:31 PM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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