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At Picnic for Black Mormons, No Sign of Church’s Biased Past (NY Times Mormon Hate on Cue)
NY Times ^ | 6/11/11 | Mark Oppenheimer

Posted on 06/11/2011 6:41:16 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus

COTTONWOOD HEIGHTS, Utah — On Christmas Day in 1964, the day before Darius A. Gray was to be baptized as a Mormon, he learned that the church would not allow a black man, like him, to be in the priesthood.

“I was not amused,” Mr. Gray recalled with a rueful smile.

It was last Saturday, and we were sitting with about 300 other Mormons, including dozens of children, at the annual picnic of the Genesis Group, a social organization for black Mormons and their friends. Some were Latino or American Indian, and nearly half were white, the parents and siblings of adopted black children. It was the most racially integrated church event I had ever attended.

Having been introduced to Mormonism by kindly white neighbors in his hometown of Colorado Springs, the teenage Darius read his way through much of the scripture of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He had no idea about the racist church policy. His newfound faith was badly shaken.

“I went home and prayed,” Mr. Gray said. “And I received a personal revelation, an inspiration from God: ‘This is the restored Gospel, and you are to join.’ So the next day, I entered into the waters of baptism. Then the next day I went to church as a member for the first time.” And a little girl addressed him using a certain racial epithet. That was a first, too.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: blacks; inman; mormon
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To: Elsie
You cultists are weird.

You're weirder than the cultists you hate.

101 posted on 06/13/2011 5:49:05 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: Elsie

You’re the best.


102 posted on 06/13/2011 7:37:44 AM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Religion Moderator
Do not make this thread "about" individual Freepers. That is also a form of "making it personal."

I guess religious bigotry is OK though, and it's OK to attack people's religion?

Seems pretty personal to me.

And I am not a Mormon, and don't care about them one way or the other.

I guess I just pay more than lip service to the idea of "freedom of religion."

104 posted on 06/13/2011 9:20:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I restored your post 55. My mistake, I thought this thread was posted on the Religion Forum where different guidelines apply. To read those guidelines click on my profile page.


105 posted on 06/13/2011 9:28:59 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You're weirder than the cultists you hate.

Still name calling; trying to avoid the FACT that you seem to have no EVIDENCE?

106 posted on 06/13/2011 12:45:09 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You act like a Muslim.

You ARE an ACCUSER with NO evidence.

107 posted on 06/13/2011 12:47:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
And I am not a Mormon, and don't care about them one way or the other.

You ARE an ACCUSER of ANTI-MORMIONism fighters; and that kinda says SOMETHING else about you...

108 posted on 06/13/2011 12:49:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
And I am not a Mormon, and don't care about them one way or the other.

You ARE an ACCUSER of ANTI-MORMONism fighters; and that kinda says SOMETHING else about you...

109 posted on 06/13/2011 12:49:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals #5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."

Is it WORKING yet?

110 posted on 06/13/2011 12:51:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Do you live in a storm sewer? The only person I ever met who talks like you panhandled in front of the grocery store and slept in the storm sewer behind it.
111 posted on 06/13/2011 12:52:22 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
You ARE an ACCUSER of ANTI-MORMONism fighters; and that kinda says SOMETHING else about you...

sO yOu AdMiT yOu DoN't BeLiEvE iN FrEeDoM oF rElIgIon.

How totalitarian of you.

112 posted on 06/13/2011 12:53:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

BookMark


113 posted on 06/13/2011 2:45:11 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; colorcountry; Colofornian; Elsie; svcw; Zakeet; Tennessee Nana; ...
sO yOu AdMiT yOu DoN't BeLiEvE iN FrEeDoM oF rElIgIon.

What I don't believe is your protestation of NOT being mormon. The "defense" you have provided here is an illustration to all that your claim pegs the hogwash meter.

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114 posted on 06/14/2011 8:55:23 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (My God can't be bribed by money or good works. Romney's can.)
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To: greyfoxx39
What I don't believe is your protestation of NOT being mormon.

Quite the hater, aren't you?

Catholic parochial school, Dominican nuns, Jesuit high school.

I believe in freedom of religion. Simple as that.

You believe in shoving your beliefs down other people's throats and telling them they're going to Hell if they don't agree with you.

Good luck with that.

115 posted on 06/14/2011 9:09:07 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

f MORMONism was NOT a heresy; there might be something to discuss.

So what shall we do?

Burn them at the stake?

Willard ain’t going to be President.

You got your pink panties in a wad over nothing.

Sane people like us need not waste our time on these boards;leave these people to their distorted musings.


116 posted on 06/14/2011 9:40:30 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Would you include the 52,000 mormon bike riders that bang on your door at dinner?
Show since you made the claim that anyone on FR has said mormons cannot practice whatever religion they want.


117 posted on 06/14/2011 9:40:58 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Titus-Maximus
So isn’t incredibly racist to have a picnic for just blacks?
118 posted on 06/14/2011 9:42:21 AM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; svcw; Zakeet; SkyPilot; rightazrain; ...
You believe in shoving your beliefs down other people's throats and telling them they're going to Hell if they don't agree with you.

Anyone reading this thread can see just WHO it is that is "shoving your beliefs down other people's throats and telling them they're going to Hell if they don't agree with you"..that is you!.

BTW, "shoving your beliefs down other people's throats and telling them they're going to Hell if they don't agree with you." is a perfect description of the mormon missionary program, being carried out 24/7 worldwide by 52,000 missionaries on the ground and muilti-million dollar campaigns on TV and radio, not to mention countless misleading and false internet posts.

The fact that this PR campaign is being met with resistance on FR by those of us who "believe in freedom of religion" and freedom to rebut the lies of certain religions has folks like you just wetting your garmies.

We've seen this mormon mantra "freedom for me but not for thee" on FR for years. We'll continue to show the hypocrisy of the argument for years to come.

119 posted on 06/14/2011 9:44:10 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (My God can't be bribed by money or good works. Romney's can.)
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To: svcw
Could you please translate your sentence fragments into complete, intelligible English language sentences?

I don't read psychopath.

120 posted on 06/14/2011 9:44:15 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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