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At Picnic for Black Mormons, No Sign of Church’s Biased Past (NY Times Mormon Hate on Cue)
NY Times ^ | 6/11/11 | Mark Oppenheimer

Posted on 06/11/2011 6:41:16 AM PDT by Titus-Maximus

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To: E. Pluribus Unum; All

To me radical Islam is a bigger threat than the LDS..


41 posted on 06/11/2011 12:15:48 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Islam is a bigger threat than the LDS.)
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To: KevinDavis

To me radical Islam is a bigger threat than the LDS..

I agree. Chances are that they (radical islam) would trample the LDS faith under their faith had they the power to do so.

Radicalism doesn’t like company.


42 posted on 06/11/2011 1:36:41 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Colofornian
That changed in 1976 at a General Conference what is past is not prologue.
43 posted on 06/11/2011 1:48:45 PM PDT by Little Bill (Sorry)
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To: Morpheus2009; All

Exactly.. I’m not a fan of the LDS (since they ban drinking coffee) but I respect the basic right that we have in America.. The right to worship...


44 posted on 06/11/2011 2:31:44 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Islam is a bigger threat than the LDS.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If your motives were pure, it's Muslims you'd be most offended by.

Take your laME mindreading act on the road and see if anyone will show up.

If MORMONism was NOT a heresy; there might be something to discuss.

45 posted on 06/11/2011 2:47:10 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
But Muslims kill their critics, and Mormons don't, so cowards find it much safer to attack them instead.

Yeah; being a COWARD will get ya every time!


Joseph Smith continues: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (, p.270).
 
Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (, p. 119).
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" ( 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" ( 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" ( 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (, vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" ( 10:230).
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (, p. 255).
 
Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (, 18:172).
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (, vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (, 10:127).
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (, p.182).
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (, vol. 3, p.282).
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (, p.316).
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (, vol. 2, p.196).
 

46 posted on 06/11/2011 2:48:39 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: KevinDavis
The right to worship...

And the 'right' to point out and rebuke HERESY where ever it is found; too!

47 posted on 06/11/2011 2:50:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
 

What Not To Wear to the Emergency Room

 
 
 

48 posted on 06/11/2011 3:15:19 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: Elsie
If MORMONism was NOT a heresy; there might be something to discuss.

So what shall we do?

Burn them at the stake?

Willard ain't going to be President.

You got your pink panties in a wad over nothing.

49 posted on 06/11/2011 3:17:08 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: Colofornian

Laminite is racist in any language.


50 posted on 06/11/2011 3:17:26 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Burn them at the stake?

Merely posting their own words will be quite sufficient.

Damning; aren't they!!

51 posted on 06/11/2011 3:42:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You got your pink panties in a wad over nothing.

Now we gotta put up with CROTCH reading as well as MIND reading?

Oh!

BTW; Speaking of UNDERGARMENTS:

GOOD Mormons are Temple Worthy - they pass this test EVERY year:


Temple Recommend Questions



1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
 

 

1 Timothy 4:1-2
1. The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
2. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
 
1 Timothy 1:3-4
3. As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
4. nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.
 
1 Timothy 6:3-5
3. If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
4. he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions
5. and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.

52 posted on 06/11/2011 3:46:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

You are one weird cookie.


53 posted on 06/11/2011 3:53:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
You may be right; but whadda ya think of the MORMON doctrines; engraved in STONE?


54 posted on 06/11/2011 5:56:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
You act like a Muslim.

Hatred above all else.

55 posted on 06/11/2011 6:15:22 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Just wait til’ the rest of them show up...you ain’t seen nothin’ yet...


56 posted on 06/11/2011 6:21:08 PM PDT by magritte ("There are moments, Jeeves, when one asks oneself "Do trousers matter?")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Elsie

You disagree with Elsie. (You must hate him...per your logic)


57 posted on 06/11/2011 8:40:18 PM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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To: Vendome; E. Pluribus Unum; Elsie
LOL

(Better watch out...EPU is tasting cookies for weird tastes)

58 posted on 06/11/2011 8:42:15 PM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Elsie
You got your pink panties in a wad over nothing.

Maybe EPU you might consider stopping your fantasizing of what color underwear Els is wearing. ("She's" a guy)

59 posted on 06/11/2011 8:44:07 PM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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To: Little Bill
That changed in 1976 at a General Conference what is past is not prologue.

Stop exporting your ignorance. Nothing race-wise changed in the Mormon church in 1976 (Strike one)

In fact nothing changed race-wise by Mormon leadership in any 1970s General Conference. (Strike two)

Tell us what changed at your fantasy General Conference in 1976? (Strike three is waiting in the balance)

60 posted on 06/11/2011 8:48:57 PM PDT by Colofornian (I already have a God as my leader. Why do I need ANOTHER one as POTUS?)
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