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If God Is So Just ....
Sunday, June 12, 2011 | cc

Posted on 06/12/2011 2:07:34 AM PDT by canuck_conservative

... why does he let the creeps succeed?

An outright fraud like Barack Obama gets elected, keeps spreading his lies and destruction, and keeps living the high life, with no penalty - on the contrary, all he gets is widespread praise for being so great. Bill Clinton gets worldwide "respect and adulation" as some sort of elder statesman, laughing all the way. Sandy Berger is a brazen thief, yet suffered no penalty. And on and on, every day....

Meanwhile, good people like Sarah Palin are routinely trashed and ridiculed, while their attackers endure no consequences, and are even rewarded - Joy Behar has her own show, for Pete's sake! Olberman is allowed back. Weiner gets a free pass for his creepy behavior. And Herman Cain will get trashed, with his attackers again getting off scot-free.

Where's the damn justice? And don't give me the line about "it'll be settled in the afterlife", these moral violations occurred in THIS world, why aren't they squared up in this world too?

Does this mean God isn't fair and just? Or maybe there's really no God at all?

I WANT to beleieve, but after what I've seen in the last few years (and continue to see now) I'm so confused and angry. Have I just been lied-to all these years??


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To: canuck_conservative

I know it is hard to keep thinking, “God is Just.”

I ponder it nearly everyday lately and we’re not yet practicing our religion underground like they are in the Middle East.

Some say to read Job. God permitted Satan to test Job. Job didn’t choose his situation through bad choices or sinful ways. God permitted it, God chose it for him.

I ponder the prophets and the positions they were required to fulfill for God’s just will to be done.

The Bible tells us if our name’s are not written in the book of life, we will not get into heaven. Names are slain from the book. God already knows the outcome and yet here we are considering ourselves as having ‘free will’ and a ‘just God.’ If there is a prophecy to be fulfilled is there free will?

Revelations tells us when the book of life is opened on judgment day it is our deeds that will be used to judge us. Not the blood of Christ. If your name isn’t in the book...lake of fire for you! The book is the book of life...you want your name in that book. Not vice-a-versa as it seems some Christians think.

The prophecy of end times says there will be a great falling away. I believe this is what we are witnessing. But it raises the question if it is God’s will...that many perish into the lake of fire, who are deceived on purpose to fulfill His will...how is that just?

It is the same type of question I often ask about God, Jesus, and Judas. Judas had to “choose” what he did to fulfill the prophecy...saint or sinner?

The ‘free will’ argument doesn’t launder very well with me. Some must choose sin in order to fulfill prophecy. The Bible is riddled with such situations and stories of God allowing this or that...


21 posted on 06/12/2011 3:13:16 AM PDT by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: canuck_conservative

The Bible predicts what is going on; how evil will be called good and good will be called evil. It talks of the decline of world-wide societies and globalism. In the Old Testament, God favored some good men and trounced some disobedient men. In the New Testament, we have only two tasks - to love God, and to love each other - He will decide when to take the others to task. Jesus told His folks “resist not evil” - let the evil-doers have their way. Our job is to carry the message of His love and the path to salvation - final handling of evil-doers is His job.


22 posted on 06/12/2011 3:25:20 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: canuck_conservative

If God were fair and just wouldn’t things be better?

But

If God were unfair and unjust wouldn’t things be worse?

The guarantees are not in this life, they come after.


23 posted on 06/12/2011 3:30:42 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: canuck_conservative
God is good. Man is evil. Man constantly fight against the goodness of God including trashing of good people.

But in time their foot shall slip.

Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God>

24 posted on 06/12/2011 3:31:37 AM PDT by HarleyD
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To: canuck_conservative
My 2 cents worth.
It's FREE.
Things here will never make sense. We are here for such a short time. There is a creed that alcoholics live by. "God grant me the serenity to accept the things that I can not change, to change the things I can and the wisdom to know the difference." It is good for all of us.
GOD could make us all puppets. That would be no fun. We could always elect strict conservatives, nobody would know how bad liberals really are. I believe we wind up with people like ZERO to show us their plans will never work. Just talking about how bad their plans are is not the same. A lot of voters don't remember JIMMAH. Now we have JIMMAH2.
All we can do is trust in GOD pray that he continues to watch over us and live our life in a way that GOD will continue to keep us safe.
Read everything you can on World War 2. We came dangerously close to losing that war. Think about it, Japan destroyed our Navy in one fell swoop. We had to completely rebuild our Navy, one ship at a time. It wasn't easy. We had to fight the Germans in Europe, that war didn't go easy, we came very close to losing. Only some dumb moves by Hitler that defy logic helped. (GOD had to have been involved) D-Day was almost a disaster, but only because our brave soldiers (this includes all Navy, Marines allies etc.)would not give up and fought when the odds were against them.
I don't profess to know how GOD works, but I have learned to trust him.
As for Slick and the other "BAD" people. I have to remember the "Judge Not". We are all imperfect and make mistakes. Slick will have to answer for his mistakes and I will have to answer for mine.
25 posted on 06/12/2011 3:32:26 AM PDT by DeaconRed (If I knew then what I know now. I would have studied harder in school. . . . .)
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To: canuck_conservative

As a friend once told me:

God takes His time, but He collects His debts.


26 posted on 06/12/2011 3:32:48 AM PDT by Vesuvian
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To: canuck_conservative
Any thing I might consider a “God” doesn't know we exist. Much less the workings of a fraudulent hack like Obama.
27 posted on 06/12/2011 3:33:31 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: canuck_conservative
God didn't allow creeps to succeed. We did.

If you lived in a dark pitch black cave for a decade and suddenly a bright light appears, chances are you would cover your eyes from the light because you are no longer used to seeing light. You forgot what it was, or never knew what it was depending on your age. The light hurts your eyes and you want it to go away. You might throw stones at it hoping the stones would break the light. You find out stones have no power over light.
The light is Gov Sarah Palin.
Thus the attacks on her from the children of the darkness. Gov Sarah Palin is no mistake. She's walking through fire. I think Jesus went though the same (In a different context)

Those that get away doing "stuff" do they truly get away with it? Their name is tarnished. They will be remembered for the bad things they did. We won't suffer but their children will inthe next generation.

God is everywhere. He's in control.
Stand back and look at everything that is happening now. Do you see the cleansing? Do you see secret evil deeds being exposed? This is God in action summoned by the Prayer Warriors.

Think of it this way...everyone gets a turn. The evil ones were having a party, enjoying the wealth of the land. Soon that will end. The Good ones will overcome and soon enjoy the wealth of God's land.

In these past three years I've seen many turn back to God and many turn away. Life goes on. Learn to enjoy the little things of life which were created by our Savior.

This year I have been blessed with barn swallows nesting in my mudroom and barn. Robins nesting in my garage. Bees savoring the propolis off my fir trees, a toad dwelling in a hole in my foundation. Rabbits in my cellar and chickens in my pantry. Groundhogs roto-tilling the soil. The fruit trees have blossomed abundantly and there are tiny peaches in the three year old peach tree.

Yes, God is in control and is blessing us. We just have to pay attention to what the blessings are.

Spend your time and energy focusing on the good people. This will give them more power.

28 posted on 06/12/2011 3:40:06 AM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: canuck_conservative

“I WANT to beleieve, but after what I’ve seen in the last few years (and continue to see now) I’m so confused and angry. Have I just been lied-to all these years??”
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It is not so much that you and I and the world have been lied to as it is simply the LEFT is seeking to implement “Cultural Marxism” on the world. One of the tools they are using to do this is “Critical Theory” - nothing that a LIBERAL does is wrong and must never be criticized and everthing that the CONSERVATIVE/s does must be attacked and is always wrong and is always labeled as Facist and Nazi.

You and anyone else reading this who has not read about “Critical Theory” and “Cultural Marxism” as developed at the “Frankfort school” needs to Google these phrases. Look for articles written by Gerald Atkinson or just google his name +Frankfort school.

Once you are aware of the playbook of the Left, spread the word to others...


29 posted on 06/12/2011 3:44:03 AM PDT by LaMudBug
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To: canuck_conservative

The Old Testament book of Habakkuk addresses the very problem you present. The book of Job as well. Especially the last 3 chapters of Job. He is confronted by God after spending the whole book of pleading his own innocence. Read God’s response.

When we compare ourselves to others we can find some “good” and some “not so good.” However, when measured against the perfect Son of God, which is how God will judge us all, we fall short. All have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God.

All men, including you and me, stand in need of God’s forgiveness. May God have mercy on us.


30 posted on 06/12/2011 3:45:07 AM PDT by sola gracia
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To: canuck_conservative

Here is the answer, although it may not be satisfying to you. Was it God that elected Obama? Does God give all those miscreants you named adulation, free passes, and TV shows?
No, its other human beings that cause all these violations of morality to occur and allow them to continue, and its up to us to deal out fairness and justice to the miscreants in THIS world. Its up to us to figure out how best to do that in this world.


31 posted on 06/12/2011 3:51:51 AM PDT by ngat
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To: canuck_conservative

What you’re seeing isn’t new—it’s just different players and it’s happening in our time and place.

Ours is an ugly, fallen world.


32 posted on 06/12/2011 3:54:46 AM PDT by Nickname
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33 posted on 06/12/2011 3:57:22 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Your what hurts??)
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To: EBH
"Some say to read Job. God permitted Satan to test Job. Job didn’t choose his situation through bad choices or sinful ways. God permitted it, God chose it for him."

I wonder - If Job knew beforehand what was going to happen to him - all the pain and suffering - plus the restoration at the end - would he have chosen to accept or reject the trial?

In my case, it keeps getting worse. I see no hope of restoration.

34 posted on 06/12/2011 4:05:32 AM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (We will fight for America and it starts here in Madison, WI. It starts here. It starts now.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Matthew 24:4-13

4 Jesus told them, “Don’t let anyone mislead you. 5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Messiah.’ They will lead many astray. 6 And wars will break out near and far, but don’t panic. Yes, these things must come, but the end won’t follow immediately. 7 The nations and kingdoms will proclaim war against each other, and there will be famines and earthquakes in many parts of the world. 8 But all this will be only the beginning of the horrors to come. 9 “Then you will be arrested, persecuted, and killed. You will be hated all over the world because of your allegiance to me. 10 And many will turn away from me and betray and hate each other. 11 And many false prophets will appear and will lead many people astray. 12 Sin will be rampant everywhere, and the love of many will grow cold. 13 But those who endure to the end will be saved.


35 posted on 06/12/2011 4:06:15 AM PDT by quesney
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To: canuck_conservative

We live in the world WE have built. God stepped aside to allow us to go our own way (free will). Where we are today is what WE have wrought, not our Father.

When His son returns, there will be a reckoning, and then God’s justice shall prevail. Until then, we must endure our burden, knowing that we carry only a small share of the Truth.


36 posted on 06/12/2011 4:09:12 AM PDT by Don W (You can forget what you do for a living when your knees are in the breeze.)
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To: canuck_conservative

If the first five words of your question are wrong, how do expect to get a right answer?

God is just. Period.

It is the rest of creation that falls short.

And by the way, no one is promised a rose garden.


37 posted on 06/12/2011 4:16:16 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: canuck_conservative

God is Truth.

One of the reasons, aside from a fallen nature, that sin exists is because we don’t view sin as seriously as God does. The only way God can show us just how bad sin is is to not protect us from our own stupidity and foolishness.


38 posted on 06/12/2011 4:18:54 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: canuck_conservative; All

I had to be the one to bring you more bad news but........it ain’t going to get any better. People often think everything should go well here on plant earth but this is not our home. Unless there is a major out pouring of the Holy Spirit and people turning from their wicked ways, it is only down hill from here. Yes I am an End Timer and think we are closer to the end.
Just as the bible talks about, people are deceived (how else could a women walk in to kill the baby in her womb). Look at Romans 11:8 “as it is written: God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes so that they could not see and ears so they could not hear.”
or 2 Corinthians 4:3 And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing or
2 Corinthians 4:4 The god of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Or Ephesians 4:18 They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts.
Pressing on in faith in God is going to be the only thing that makes any sense. The world as we know it is basically going nutz (I do not understand how or why people think or do some of the things they do)...
May they accept the Grace and mercy of God.


39 posted on 06/12/2011 4:22:47 AM PDT by blueyon (The U. S. Constitution - read it and weep)
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To: canuck_conservative

... why does he let the creeps succeed?

Hitler had some world class success for a while there. America has rejected God Culturally and THAT is what facilitated Obozo’s getting into the White House. It was not God who instituted and enforced and complied with and saluted the lie that is PC...it was us. It is up to good men to take responsability do good and to fight Evil. (See the tagline)


40 posted on 06/12/2011 4:23:21 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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