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Report by Hanno Essén and Sven Kullander On Focardi and Rossi ECat (Cold Fusion)
Nyteknik ^ | april 3, 2011 | Essen and Kullander

Posted on 06/12/2011 8:19:04 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus

Experimental test of a mini-Rossi device at the Leonardocorp, Bologna 29 March 2011.

Participants: Giuseppe Levi, David Bianchini, Carlo Leonardi, Hanno Essén, Sven Kullander, Andrea Rossi, Sergio Focardi.

Travel report by Hanno Essén and Sven Kullander, 3 April 2011.

We gathered in the Leonardo Corporation building where the 10 kW apparatus for anomalous energy production by nickel and hydrogen was demonstrated during a press conference on 14th of January. References [1] to [4] for the original papers describing the innovation are listed at the end. In the same building, two CHP facilities were located, based on biodiesel from waste which Andrea Rossi, prior to his present Ni-H activity, had developed. The present test was done on a smaller device [5] than the 10 kW device that has been used earlier during the January press conference. One of the reasons for going to smaller dimensions is safety according to Rossi. The conclusions from the papers [1] to [4] are that nickel and hydrogen provide the fuel for nuclear processes inside a small container in a radiation shielded setup and that in the room outside, no radiation different from the ambient one is found. Figures 1 and 2 below depict the insulated device used for the experiment together with three spare devices. As can be seen on the bare devices there is a horizontal section with a central container. The tube was made of copper and according to Rossi, the reaction chamber is hidden inside in the central part and made of stainless steel. Note that on the main heating resistor which is positioned around the copper tube and made of stainless steel (Figure 3) you can read the dimensions and nominal power (50mm diameter and 300W). The vertical chimney is for the steam-water exhaust. The cooling inlet water of about 18 °C comes from a reservoir via a pump (yellow). The transparent blue rubber hose going from the reservoir to the device is visible above the yellow pump, on the left of the photo in figure 1. To the right at the chimney, a black hose of heavy rubber, for high temperatures, carries the hot water/steam to the sink on the wall of the adjacent room. At the end of the horizontal section there is an auxiliary electric heater to initialize the burning and also to act as a safety if the heat evolution should get out of control. The central container seen in figure 3 has an estimated volume of 50 cm3 and it contains 50 grams of nickel. The container has on its top, a pipe for the filling of hydrogen gas. During the running we used the rightmost one of the devices, figure 4, which is surrounded by a 2 cm thick lead shield, as stated by Rossi, and wrapped with insulation, figure 5. We had free access to the heater electric supply, to the inlet water hose, to the outlet steam valve and water hose and to the hydrogen gas feed pipe. The total weight of the device was estimated to be around 4 kg. Calibrations. The flow of the inlet water was calibrated in the following way. The time for filling up 0.5 liters of water in a carafe was measured to be 278 seconds. Visual checks showed that the water flow was free from bubbles. Scaled to flow per hour resulted in a flow of 6.47 kg/hour (Density 1 kg/liter assumed). The water temperature was 18 °C. The specific heat of water, 4.18 joule/gram/ °C which is equal to 1.16 Wh/kg/ °C is used to calculate the energy needed to bring 1 kg of water from 18 to 100 °C. The result is 1.16(100-18)=95 Wh/kg. The heat of vaporization is 630 Wh/kg. Assuming that all water will be vaporized, the energy required to bring 1 kg water of 18 °C to vapor is 95+630=725 Wh/kg. To heat up the adjusted water flow of 6.47 kg/hour from 18 °C to vapor will require 7256.47=4.69 kWh/hour. The power required for heating and vaporization is thus 4.69 kW. It should be noted that no error analysis has been done but according to Giuseppe Levi, a 5% error in the measurement of the water flow is a conservative estimate. Even with this error, the conclusions will not change due to the magnitude of the observed effects. Startup. Prior to startup, the hydrogen bottle with a nominal pressure of 160 bars was connected for a short moment to the device to pressurize the fuel container to about 25 bars. The air of atmospheric pressure was remaining in the container as a small impurity. The amount of hydrogen with the assumed container volume of 50 cm3 is 0.11 grams of hydrogen. The electric heater was switched on at 10:25, and the meter reading was 1.5 amperes corresponding to 330 watts for the heating including the power for the instrumentation, about 30 watts. The electric heater thus provides a power of 300 watts to the nickel-hydrogen mixture. This corresponds also to the nominal power of the resistor. Initial running to reach vaporization. The temperatures of the inlet water and the outlet water were monitored and recorded every 2 seconds. The heater was connected at 10:25 and the boiling point was reached at 10:42. The detailed temperature-time relation is shown in figure 6. The inlet water temperature was 17.3 °C and increased slightly to 17.6 °C during this initial running. The outlet water temperature increased from 20 °C at 10:27 to 60 °C at 10:36. This means a temperature increase by 40 °C in 9 minutes which is essentially due to the electric heater. It is worth noting that at this point in time and temperature, 10:36 and 60°C, the 300 W from the heater is barely sufficient to raise the temperature of the flowing water from the inlet temperature of 17.6 °C to the 60 °C recorded at this time. If no additional heat had been generated internally, the temperature would not exceed the 60 °C recorded at 10:36. Instead the temperature increases faster after 10:36, as can be seen as a kink occurring at 60 °C in the temperature-time relation. (Figure 6). A temperature of 97.5 °C is reached at 10:40. The time taken to bring the water from 60 to 97.5 °C is 4 minutes. The 100 °C temperature is reached at 10:42 and at about 10:45 all the water is completely vaporized found by visual checks of the outlet tube and the valve letting out steam from the chimney. This means that from this point in time, 10:45, 4.69 kW power is delivered to the heating and vaporization, and 4.69 – 0.30 = 4.39 kW would have to come from the energy produced in the internal nickel-hydrogen container. Operation. The experiment was continually running from 10:45 to 16:30 when it was stopped by switching off the heater and increasing the cooling water flow to a maximum of 30 liters per hour. On two occasions during the steam production phase, David Bianchini tested the radiation level which did not differ from the normal level in the room. The temperature at the outlet was controlled continually to be above 100°C. According to the electronic log-book it remained always between 100.1 and 100.2 °C during the operation from 10:45 to 16:30 as can be seen in figure 7. Between 11:00 and 12:00 o’clock, control measurements were done on how much water that had not evaporated. The system to measure the non-evaporated water was a certified Testo System, Testo 650, with a probe guaranteed to resist up to 550°C. The measurements showed that at 11:15 1.4% of the water was non-vaporized, at 11:30 1.3% and at 11:45 1.2% of the water was non-vaporized. The energy produced inside the device is calculated to be (1.000-0.013)(16:30-10:45)4.39 =25 kWh. Discussion. Since we do not have access to the internal design of the central fuel container and no information on the external lead shielding and the cooling water system we can only make very general comments. The central container is about 50 cm3 in size and it contains 0.11 gram hydrogen and 50 grams nickel. The enthalpy from the chemical formation of nickel and hydrogen to nickel hydride is 4850 joule/mol [6]. If it had been a chemical process, a maximum of 0.15 watt-hour of energy could have been produced from nickel and 0.11 gram hydrogen, the whole hydrogen content of the container. On the other hand, 0.11 gram hydrogen and 6 grams of nickel (assuming that we use one proton for each nickel atom) are about sufficient to produce 24 MWh through nuclear processes assuming that 8 MeV per reaction can be liberated as free energy. For comparison, 3 liters of oil or 0.6 kg of hydrogen would give 25 kWh through chemical burning. Any chemical process for producing 25 kWh from any fuel in a 50 cm3 container can be ruled out. The only alternative explanation is that there is some kind of a nuclear process that gives rise to the measured energy production. Acknowledgements. We are grateful to our Bologna hosts, the cited participants and Dr Giuliano Guandalini for warm-hearted hospitality. We also appreciate the instructive execution of the experiment and the information provided. However, the authors of this Travel report are responsible for the observations and for the conclusions. References. [1] A. Rossi (inventor), Method and Apparatus for Carrying out Nickel and Hydrogen Exothermal Reactions, (WO/2009/125444) http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp? WO=2009125444; [2] S. Focardi and A. Rossi, A new energy source from nuclear fusion, Journal of Nuclear Physics, http://www.journal-of-nuclearphysics.com/? p=66, February 2010; [3] D. Bianchini, Experimental evaluation, for radiation protection purpose, of photon and neutron radiation field during the public presentation of the prototype called ”Energy Amplifier”. http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com [4] G. Levi, Report on heat production during preliminary tests on the Rossi ”Ni-H” reactor, http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com. [5] A. Rossi, A Mini Apparatus for Ni-H energy production, private communication, 110329. [6] M. Tkacz, Enthalpies of formation and decomposition of nickel hydride and nickel deuteride derived from (p, c, T) relationships, J. Chem. Thermodynamics 2001, 33, 891–897.


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Huge output of energy is being measured as Swedish tech magazine Nyteknik reports.

Pictures included at website.

1 posted on 06/12/2011 8:19:09 PM PDT by Titus-Maximus
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To: Titus-Maximus

>>Huge output of energy is being measured as Swedish tech magazine Nyteknik reports.<<

Yes — they save MASSIVE energy by not having paragraph markers. The trade-off for being able to READ the text is subject to scientific debate.


2 posted on 06/12/2011 8:26:04 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: Titus-Maximus

Um...don’t you believe in paragraphs?


3 posted on 06/12/2011 8:26:51 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Titus-Maximus

I thought this was an English language site?!


4 posted on 06/12/2011 8:28:49 PM PDT by StonyMan451
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To: Titus-Maximus

Cold fusion EXCELLENT...for so many years they’ve tried!!!


5 posted on 06/12/2011 8:32:59 PM PDT by NordP (Common Sense ConservaTEAves - Love of Country, Less Govt, Stop Spending, No Govt Run Health Care!!!)
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To: Titus-Maximus

Experimental test of a mini-Rossi device at the Leonardocorp, Bologna 29 March 2011.
Participants: Giuseppe Levi, David Bianchini, Carlo Leonardi, Hanno Essén, Sven Kullander, Andrea Rossi, Sergio Focardi.
Travel report by Hanno Essén and Sven Kullander, 3 April 2011.

We gathered in the Leonardo Corporation building where the 10 kW apparatus for anomalous energy production by nickel and hydrogen was demonstrated during a press conference on 14th of January. References [1] to [4] for the original papers describing the innovation are listed at the end. In the same building, two CHP facilities were located, based on biodiesel from waste which Andrea Rossi, prior to his present Ni-H activity, had developed.

The present test was done on a smaller device [5] than the 10 kW device that has been used earlier during the January press conference. One of the reasons for going to smaller dimensions is safety according to Rossi.

The conclusions from the papers [1] to [4] are that nickel and hydrogen provide the fuel for nuclear processes inside a small container in a radiation shielded setup and that in the room outside, no radiation different from the ambient one is found.

Figures 1 and 2 below depict the insulated device used for the experiment together with three spare devices. As can be seen on the bare devices there is a horizontal section with a central container. The tube was made of copper and according to Rossi, the reaction chamber is hidden inside in the central part and made of stainless steel. Note that on the main heating resistor which is positioned around the copper tube and made of stainless steel (Figure 3) you can read the dimensions and nominal power (50mm diameter and 300W). The vertical chimney is for the steam-water exhaust. The cooling inlet water of about 18 °C comes from a reservoir via a pump (yellow). The transparent blue rubber hose going from the reservoir to the device is visible above the yellow pump, on the left of the photo in figure 1. To the right at the chimney, a black hose of heavy rubber, for high temperatures, carries the hot water/steam to the sink on the wall of the adjacent room. At the end of the horizontal section there is an auxiliary electric heater to initialize the burning and also to act as a safety if the heat evolution should get out of control.

The central container seen in figure 3 has an estimated volume of 50 cm3 and it contains 50 grams of nickel. The container has on its top, a pipe for the filling of hydrogen gas. During the running we used the rightmost one of the devices, figure 4, which is surrounded by a 2 cm thick lead shield, as stated by Rossi, and wrapped with insulation, figure 5. We had free access to the heater electric supply, to the inlet water hose, to the outlet steam valve and water hose and to the hydrogen gas feed pipe. The total weight of the device was estimated to be around 4 kg.

Calibrations. The flow of the inlet water was calibrated in the following way. The time for filling up 0.5 liters of water in a carafe was measured to be 278 seconds. Visual checks showed that the water flow was free from bubbles. Scaled to flow per hour resulted in a flow of 6.47 kg/hour (Density 1 kg/liter assumed). The water temperature was 18 °C. The specific heat of water, 4.18 joule/gram/ °C which is equal to 1.16 Wh/kg/ °C is used to calculate the energy needed to bring 1 kg of water from 18 to 100 °C. The result is 1.16(100-18)=95 Wh/kg. The heat of vaporization is 630 Wh/kg. Assuming that all water will be vaporized, the energy required to bring 1 kg water of 18 °C to vapor is 95+630=725 Wh/kg. To heat up the adjusted water flow of 6.47 kg/hour from 18 °C to vapor will require 7256.47=4.69kWh/hour. The power required for heating and vaporization is thus 4.69 kW. It should be noted that no error analysis has been done but according to Giuseppe Levi, a 5% error in the measurement of the water flow is a conservative estimate. Even with this error, the conclusions will not change due to the magnitude of the observed effects.

Startup. Prior to startup, the hydrogen bottle with a nominal pressure of 160 bars was connected for a short moment to the device to pressurize the fuel container to about 25 bars. The air of atmospheric pressure was remaining in the container as a small impurity. The amount of hydrogen with the assumed container volume of 50 cm3 is 0.11 grams of hydrogen. The electric heater was switched on at 10:25, and the meter reading was 1.5 amperes corresponding to 330 watts for the heating including the power for the instrumentation, about 30 watts. The electric heater thus provides a power of 300 watts to the nickel-hydrogen mixture. This corresponds also to the nominal power of the resistor.

Initial running to reach vaporization. The temperatures of the inlet water and the outlet water were monitored and recorded every 2 seconds. The heater was connected at 10:25 and the boiling point was reached at 10:42. The detailed temperature-time relation is shown in figure 6. The inlet water temperature was 17.3 °C and increased slightly to 17.6 °C during this initial running. The outlet water temperature increased from 20 °C at 10:27 to 60 °C at 10:36. This means a temperature increase by 40 °C in 9 minutes which is essentially due to the electric heater. It is worth noting that at this point in time and temperature, 10:36 and 60°C, the 300 W from the heater is barely sufficient to raise the temperature of the flowing water from the inlet temperature of 17.6 °C to the 60 °C recorded at this time. If no additional heat had been generated internally, the temperature would not exceed the 60 °C recorded at 10:36. Instead the temperature increases faster after 10:36, as can be seen as a kink occurring at 60 °C in the temperature-time relation. (Figure 6). A temperature of 97.5 °C is reached at 10:40. The time taken to bring the water from 60 to 97.5 °C is 4 minutes. The 100 °C temperature is reached at 10:42 and at about 10:45 all the water is completely vaporized found by visual checks of the outlet tube and the valve letting out steam from the chimney. This means that from this point in time, 10:45, 4.69 kW power is delivered to the heating and vaporization, and 4.69 – 0.30 = 4.39 kW would have to come from the energy produced in the internal nickel-hydrogen container.

Operation. The experiment was continually running from 10:45 to 16:30 when it was stopped by switching off the heater and increasing the cooling water flow to a maximum of 30 liters per hour. On two occasions during the steam production phase, David Bianchini tested the radiation level which did not differ from the normal level in the room. The temperature at the outlet was controlled continually to be above 100°C. According to the electronic log-book it remained always between 100.1 and 100.2 °C during the operation from 10:45 to 16:30 as can be seen in figure 7. Between 11:00 and 12:00 o’clock, control measurements were done on how much water that had not evaporated. The system to measure the non-evaporated water was a certified Testo System, Testo 650, with a probe guaranteed to resist up to 550°C. The measurements showed that at 11:15 1.4% of the water was non-vaporized, at 11:30 1.3% and at 11:45 1.2% of the water was non-vaporized. The energy produced inside the device is calculated to be (1.000-0.013)(16:30-10:45)4.39 =25 kWh.

Discussion. Since we do not have access to the internal design of the central fuel container and no information on the external lead shielding and the cooling water system we can only make very general comments. The central container is about 50 cm3 in size and it contains 0.11 gram hydrogen and 50 grams nickel. The enthalpy from the chemical formation nickel and hydrogen to nickel hydride is 4850 joule/mol [6]. If it had been a chemical process, a maximum of 0.15 watt-hour of energy could have been produced from nickel and 0.11 gram hydrogen, the whole hydrogen content of the container. On the other hand, 0.11 gram hydrogen and 6 grams of nickel (assuming that we use one proton for each nickel atom) are about sufficient to produce 24 MWh through nuclear processes assuming that 8 MeV per reaction can be liberated as free energy. For comparison, 3 liters of oil or 0.6 kg of hydrogen would give 25 kWh through chemical burning. Any chemical process for producing 25 kWh from any fuel in a 50 cm3 container can be ruled out. The only alternative explanation is that there is some kind of a nuclear process that gives rise to the measured energy production.

Acknowledgements.
We are grateful to our Bologna hosts, the cited participants and Dr Giuliano Guandalini for warm-hearted hospitality. We also appreciate the instructive execution of the experiment and the information provided. However, the authors of this Travel report are responsible for the observations and for the conclusions.

References.
[1] A. Rossi (inventor), Method and Apparatus for Carrying out
Nickel and Hydrogen Exothermal Reactions, (WO/2009/125444)
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp? WO=2009125444;
[2] S. Focardi and A. Rossi, A new energy source from nuclear fusion,
Journal of Nuclear Physics,
http://www.journal-of-nuclearphysics.com/? p=66, February 2010;
[3] D. Bianchini, Experimental evaluation, for radiation protection purpose,
of photon and neutron radiation field during the public presentation of
the prototype called ”Energy Amplifier”.
http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com
[4] G. Levi, Report on heat production during preliminary tests on the Rossi
”Ni-H” reactor, http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com.
[5] A. Rossi, A Mini Apparatus for Ni-H energy production, private communication, 110329.
[6] M. Tkacz, Enthalpies of formation and decomposition of nickel hydride and nickel deuteride derived from (p, c, T) relationships, J. Chem. Thermodynamics 2001, 33, 891–897


6 posted on 06/12/2011 8:34:09 PM PDT by decimon
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To: SatinDoll

Go to the link. It is in English, and it has paragraphs.

It also has photos. Amazing results. Can it be scaled up?


7 posted on 06/12/2011 8:37:17 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: NordP

“Cold fusion EXCELLENT...for so many years they’ve tried!!!”

The test occurred at the end of March; this is now the middle of June. How big can the news be if it wasn’t the lead story in all of Obama’s propaganda organs by the end of April?


8 posted on 06/12/2011 8:38:03 PM PDT by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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To: Titus-Maximus
And just like that, global warming is over, and carbon credits are worthless.

(Or, should I have read the article?)

.

9 posted on 06/12/2011 8:38:19 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: CurlyDave

Scale-up what? The paragraphs, or the the Ecat?


10 posted on 06/12/2011 8:43:19 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Titus-Maximus
This corresponds also to the nominal power of the resistor.

Interesting. This is another important detail. The load is resistive and not reactive.
11 posted on 06/12/2011 8:47:43 PM PDT by PA Engineer (SP/AW12: Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: Titus-Maximus

Cold fusion discovered....in Bologna?


12 posted on 06/12/2011 8:48:23 PM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: CurlyDave
The key question is actually: Is it real?

A key point to me is: Is it completely isolated from any and all electrical supplies after the heater is "switched off"?

13 posted on 06/12/2011 8:53:19 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: SatinDoll

I find it interesting that a guy in Detroit developed a revolutionary steel hardening process and he did it without spending years making promises.


14 posted on 06/12/2011 9:01:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Rembrandt

Well, yes, but there’s a very good reason for the lack of MSM coverage. The squatter is busy making arrangements to be awarded the Nobel prize in physics for his achievement. He managed to squeeze the research, construction and demonstration operation between golf outings. Pretty spectacular, IMHO.


15 posted on 06/12/2011 9:08:40 PM PDT by oneolcop (Lead, Follow or Get the Hell Out of the Way!)
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To: SunkenCiv
PING! ......interesting thread.

16 posted on 06/12/2011 9:13:47 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (You do not have to smear (Pharaoh / Imam / BigEars) Obama w/ lies....the truth does a fine job. :)
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To: Titus-Maximus

I was interested in cold fusion right from the very beginning with Fleischmann and Pons. I always knew there had to be something to it down through the years of spotty results and inability to replicate experiments. Now it looks like it is all panning out and with nickle which is much cheaper. Wall Street arseholes have missed out on the investment of the century

I’m keeping my fingers crossed on this one! Let’s see what happens


17 posted on 06/12/2011 9:21:41 PM PDT by dennisw (NZT - "works better if you're already smart")
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To: expatpat
A key point to me is: Is it completely isolated from any and all electrical supplies after the heater is "switched off"?

For right now you have to rely on the observers. They do not claim it is isolated. If you read the narrative, the heater is not switched off during the experiment. And, the heat generated is 4.69 kw, 4.39 after the resistor is subtracted.

If you look at figure 6, it is clear that the energy input increases substantially at about 10:37:00 the temperature rise rate almost doubles.

If you read the narrative, the heater is not switched off during the experiment. And, the heat generated is 4.69 kw, 4.39 after the resistor is subtracted.

To me, the only real question is whether all of the flowing water is evaporated as claimed. If I had been there I would have asked for a repeat with the vapor being sent to a condenser and collected, which would allow a check on the energy balance they calculate.

18 posted on 06/12/2011 9:27:39 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: PA Engineer
Interesting. This is another important detail. The load is resistive and not reactive.

What kind of engineer are you?

I have a lot of trouble even trying to understand "the load is resistive and not reactive."

The electrical load which initially heats the apparatus until a reaction starts is resistive, but that has very little to do with the heat generated by the reaction which is either chemical or nuclear. What "load" are you talking about?

I am a chemical/nuclear engineer by training, with many years of experience in electrical heating.

19 posted on 06/12/2011 9:34:31 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: CurlyDave

I have a headache. Somebody (who has a clue) tell me is it real or is it a scam?


20 posted on 06/12/2011 9:55:52 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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