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Goshen College Declares War on National Anthem
GOPUSA ^ | 06-16-11 | Paul A. Ibbetson

Posted on 06/16/2011 11:36:15 PM PDT by 1pitech

Officials at Goshen College, a Mennonite college in Indiana, have banned the use of the Star-Spangled Banner during sporting events. The reason school officials gave for the ban was that America’s National Anthem was deemed too violent. Specifically, according to Todd Starnes of FOX News, the school’s online fact sheet stated, “Historically, playing the national anthem has not been among Goshen College’s practices because of our Christ-centered core value of compassionate peacemaking seeming to be in conflict with the anthem’s militaristic language.” Professor John Blosser, an art instructor at Goshen, attempted to clarify the school’s opposition to the national anthem by saying, “It’s obviously about a battle. It’s rather violent. It’s about using violence to conquer and that would be something that many people would have problems with.”

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1 posted on 06/16/2011 11:36:18 PM PDT by 1pitech
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To: 1pitech

Old


2 posted on 06/16/2011 11:41:48 PM PDT by Havisham
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To: Havisham

Stupid too.


3 posted on 06/16/2011 11:42:29 PM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: 1pitech

I hate when people don’t know their history.

Yes the battle at Ft. McHenry in Baltimore was violent. But it was not an act of conquest by the Americans. The British were trying to invade and occupy Baltimore. The Americans successfully defended the port of Baltimore. We were fighting in self-defense. Even peace loving religious people like this Goshen college group recognize the right to fight in self defense.

They are probably just liberal, dressed up and hiding behind some notion of pacifism, for which they really aren’t even adhering to Christian standards in expressing. And they don’t know the history of the Star Spangled Banner or the battle at Ft. McHenry. But if one is liberal enough, one appears to get a pass on such concepts as knowing the history of what allegedly inspired you to take the position you hold and publicize.


4 posted on 06/16/2011 11:45:01 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: 1pitech
Religious extremism is a mental illness.
5 posted on 06/16/2011 11:59:10 PM PDT by BigCinBigD ("We hold it in our power, to begin the world anew")
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To: 1pitech

“Officials”

“school officals”


6 posted on 06/17/2011 12:05:20 AM PDT by wolficatZ (Somebody once wrote "Revenge is a dish that has to be eaten cold".)
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To: 1pitech
Mennonites are pacifists. This is a denomination that goes back to the 16th century. They have practiced non-violence for centuries. During the Protestant Reformation, they were persecuted by both Catholics and other Protestants because they believed in a strict separation of church and state. They were also persecuted because they were Anabaptist--they only baptized adults, not children or infants. Many were killed since they refused to defend themselves when attacked.

They are not anti-American. They just don't believe in using violence of any sort. They are conscientious objectors. When drafted into the armed services during past wars, they served in non-combantant roles.

This is a private college. My guess is that they take no government funding. Given their traditions, there is no reason why they would play the national anthem at sporting events.

7 posted on 06/17/2011 12:22:07 AM PDT by stripes1776
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To: 1pitech
“It’s obviously about a battle,

It's about liberty, and liberty is not in conflict with Christian core values. Liberalism however, is in conflict with both...which may explain why this dumbass is confused.

8 posted on 06/17/2011 12:29:49 AM PDT by csense
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To: 1pitech

Mennonites=Wimps


9 posted on 06/17/2011 12:39:16 AM PDT by dupree
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You utterly lame, moronic, daffy loser; you just TALK peace - the United States Marine Corps MAKES and MAINTAINS the peace you enjoy.

Pull your head out of your effin’ *ss, you inspid buttmunch.


10 posted on 06/17/2011 12:39:39 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I hate when people don’t know their history.

How much history do you know about the Mennonites? This is a Protestant denomination that goes back to the 16 century. If you know your history you would know their long commitment to non-violence. You would also know that many were persecuted and killed in the past centuries since they refused the defend themselves when attacked.

They are probably just liberal, dressed up and hiding behind some notion of pacifism, for which they really aren’t even adhering to Christian standards in expressing.

Mennonites are not liberals. They are hard-working conservative people. Their understanding of Christianity may be different from yours and mine. They take a very literal view of the passages of the New Testament that advocate non-violence. They also believe in a strict separation of church and state.

How many Mennonites will you find on welfare and food stamps? I would say zero.

11 posted on 06/17/2011 12:40:11 AM PDT by stripes1776
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You are wasting your time. The people you are trying to reason with are incapable of reason. They would rather throw around venom and seek virtual high fives because it makes them feel better about their own lives.

The internet has brought this mentality upon us. People simply are becoming incapable of anything other than bumper sticker slogans and superficial thought.

When you point out to them that: “Those who begin coercive elimination of dissent soon find themselves exterminating dissenters. Compulsory unification of opinion achieves only a unanimity at the graveyard.” They find themselves utterly incapable of understanding what that means.


12 posted on 06/17/2011 12:54:37 AM PDT by freedomwarrior998
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To: 1pitech

Then I guess they really don’t like “Onward Christian Soldiers.”


13 posted on 06/17/2011 12:57:43 AM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: 1pitech
our Christ-centered core value of compassionate peacemaking seeming to be in conflict with the anthem’s militaristic language.

If this is the only reason, they must have a different Bible than the one I have. Mine has a lot of militaristic language.

14 posted on 06/17/2011 2:26:29 AM PDT by paudio (The differences between Clinton and 0bama? About a dozen of former Democratic Congressmen.)
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To: stripes1776

I’d sooner see a private school choose to abstain from a song that it believes glorifies wrongful violence (even though that’s not at all the intended meaning in context, good grief the last line even qualifies it with “when our cause it is just”) than to teach that trampling flags and carrying out other obscene anti-patriotic street drama is cool.


15 posted on 06/17/2011 2:32:37 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: Rocky

Prolly not but so?


16 posted on 06/17/2011 2:33:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: paudio

Broadly put, there is little in the New Testament to suggest a bellicose bent to Christians, although Jesus warned his disciples to take at least a minimum of self defense, and Christian principles would suggest this be carried out to protect at least family and fellow believers, if not an arbitrary home land. The armies of Revelation are of heavenly origin, and the Old Testament read at face value is centered around a one-off earthly arrangement for a particular race (actually, set of races — Ishmael is quite busy fulfilling his role as trouble maker today).


17 posted on 06/17/2011 2:39:36 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Hawk)
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To: stripes1776

Then your also aware of their fabrication work for the drug cartels in Mexico an central an south America ?

Given they won’t touch drugs but they know the false compartments they build are for smuggling. they know what the end product they build is used for.

Violence, suffering etc...

Yeah there are good ones true to their core beliefs yet not all nor many.

Lots of bad folks hide an work within such groups. Back then an now.

Stay Safe...


18 posted on 06/17/2011 2:54:57 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I am aware that NT doesn't have much reference on militaristic language. My point is that we will see a lot of military language, especially in the OT. If the presence of military language alone is enough ground for banning the National Anthem, like the quote says, they should also ban the OT.
19 posted on 06/17/2011 3:22:56 AM PDT by paudio (The differences between Clinton and 0bama? About a dozen of former Democratic Congressmen.)
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To: 1pitech
"Those who would beat their swords into plowshares will plow for those who didn't."...somebody well known.
20 posted on 06/17/2011 3:45:48 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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