Posted on 06/17/2011 6:11:52 PM PDT by Yossarian
Yes.
Reason - In Chicago there's a very *infamous* parish priest named Father Pfleger, at St Sabina's Church. He's been there over 20 years (that's against the rules) and he has broken almost every other rule in the book, like getting arrested, and THREATENING SOMEONE'S LIFE -- and worse as far as The Church goes (IMMO), openly thumbed his nose at direct orders from the Cardinal, whose also the Archbishop of Chicago, Cardinal Francis George.
To boot Father Pfleger 'has preached' at Obama's old Chicago 'church' where that anti-American, Anti-Semitic, Anti-White, 'Rev' Jeremiah Wright spewed his bile. Yet. Father Pfleger remained at St Sabina's.
Only recently has the Cardinal said enough is enough, you have to be reassigned to a new parish due to the Church's rules and that's that, but Pfleger is STILL there. Yet this priest, Father Corapi, gets the boot OUT OF THE PRIESTHOOD in relative light speed based on *evidence* he can't even see.
Something is very wrong (head shaking).
His Church will shed the unfaithful and The Church will be stronger for it. Catholics in this country became obsessed with being accepted by the Protestant majority, the hierarchy most obsessed of all. A great many priests and bishops left The Church a long time ago but remained in their positions nonetheless rather than bothering to physically leave. They deliberately and with malice aforethought distorted and subverted Vatican II as their vehicle to try and make the Catholic Church into just another Protestant denomination.
Christ will fix The One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church in this country. The Church, however, will not be spared a share of the punishment this whole nation deserves nor will it be spared the punishment those who have abandoned His Church to follow another gospel have earned for themselves by adopting and basking in Sola Yourselfa or other doctrines they've adopted rather than remaining faithful to His Church. That Jesus Christ will wait until stubborn and headstrong humans are convinced all is lost and therefore will have to admit that it took a miracle to turn the Church around is no surprise to me.
Rest assured, He has..I am now married to the love of my life..It sounded bitter when I spoke it, but it is not. I just stated the facts. My reason for sharing this was that some think that a priest should get a free pass—he should not. He should be judged like the rest of us.
I had a chance to see him last year when he came to our area. I wish I had done so, but other obligations prevented me from doing so. Drat!
I think Father Corapi is outstanding and I wish him well. He had the fire and conviction of St. Paul.
Whoa to those in power who are corrupt. God will deal with them in his own time and way. I don't envy any of these who seek to destroy in God's name.
Thanks for the information.
In my judgment, Father Corapi is getting the short end of the stick here. Anyone else?Yikes is all I can say. Notice how "John" makes no mention of Mary ...
I’m bothered by his rather rash decision also. It reminds me of corrupt politicians who rail against the system after being convicted of misdeeds in office. Many saints have been accused, yet remained silent. St. John Vianney was once accused of impregnating a young woman, yet he remained silent and followed Christ’s example. The good Cure d’Ars was exonerated.
Father Corapi had done good work, but he has allowed Satan to take down his ministry. Sad, really...
Second, you are right Condor! There is an interesting thing going on. I don't know if Corapi is guilty or not, but if he was like Pfleger and attacking the conservatives no one would say anything.
It is funny how often when some one is on the liberal side, the bishops say how powerless they are. Yet when it is on the other side, the hammer comes down quickly.
The US Catholic church has issues. And it will take generations, if ever, to fix.
Sadly, just about all the churches and synods in the US are facing similar things. The LCMS is fighting a rear guard action, and the Southern Baptists will go gay soon.
The part that disturbed me as I read through Corapi's account is that the Bishop of Corpus Christi forced this on the order and the order couldn't get answers either (the bishop's CV doesn't give many answers on that quarter either other than he was in Rome under Paul VI). There's something fundamentally wrong with the system if this is the case. We have zero idea what is happening behind the scenes. IMO, Corapi is giving up way too fast and may well have needed a break from his public schedule, but to not be able to get answers? Even Christ gave answers to those he knew were sinners. That is simple Christian charity and the bishops are not demonstrating that in any way.
“St. John Vianney was once accused of impregnating a young woman, yet he remained silent and followed Christ’s example.”
Why does the Church employ lawyers (canon and secular) if self-defense is considered unsaintly?
Don’t get me wrong. I’m a Roman Catholic. And no matter what scoundrels get themselves appointed bishop, I hope that, like St. Joan, I would die saying “Jesus is the Church and the Church is Jesus.” I.e., the Church is how Jesus has chosen to remain in the world until He comes again.
Yes. It’s just that we do Him so many injustices that it gets discouraging.
For about a year my FReep tag line was “If false accusation wasn’t a big problem it wouldn’t be in the Ten Commandments”.
Christendom—not only the RCC—is in need of serious remedial catechesis in the Eighth Commandment.
Those who falsely accuse should be subject to penalties as harsh as what they sought to bring against an innocent victim.
Remember, though, that according to Revelation 12 “the ACCUSER of our bretheren has been cast out”. The day will come when his little helpers will also be cast out into the lake of fire.
Come,Lord Jesus!
Isaiah 53:8 Though he was harshly treated, he submitted and opened not his mouth; Like a lamb led to the slaughter or a sheep before the shearers, he was silent and opened not his mouth.
Oppressed and condemned, he was taken away, and who would have thought any more of his destiny? When he was cut off from the land of the living, and smitten for the sin of his people,
A grave was assigned him among the wicked and a burial place with evildoers, Though he had done no wrong nor spoken any falsehood.
I would suggest going to youtube and listening to Father Corapi’s talks.
He always stressed his human frailty and pointed to Christ and the Truth and Answer.
This is a loss for all Christians, not just Catholics. Many of my Protestant friends admired Corapi.
I was reading a thread about the same issue in the Religion forum, and did not see them mentioned
I did not read the whole thread over there because I wanted to see the responses to the article with out the censorship of a caucus thread so I came to this one.
A very sad situation.
It is very similar to the dems mantra that it doesn't matter if the accusations are true or not, it's the severity of the charges.
And act out of ignorance of the truth and in the process destroy someone in a very unfair manner.
It is saddening to see the Catholic church use the same tactics to tar a feather someone who is apparently innocent and has no chance in that strict one sided venue to state their case.
He seems to have made the right choice in his responses imo.
“Why doesn’t Father Corapi remain obedient to the Church and her processes, rather than publicly attack them and launch his new commercial venture?”
He may be innocent or he may be guilty - no way of knowing. But if his description of this “process” is accurate, it seems unfair, arbitrary and skewed in favor of accusers. And if it is systemic, perhaps in bringing this to light he’s performing a service to the Church and his fellow priests.
“I am troubled by the choices he has made”
Yes, it’s disheartening.
¨...I know you haven´t the best of breaks since you got back, but it seems to me you ought to stick here, and fight it out on your own home ground a little longer....¨
I am relieved to learn that your anger is not an festering injury in your heart; rather an outrage at all injustice such as you experienced.
You are right that church officials are not above moral or civil law and Catholics should support the church’s duty to investigate the claims of victims. It is a given that the investigative process will be painful and claimed to be unjust, by the accused. It seems few trust the integrity of the investigators. Conservative priests are just as open to temptation as are liberal priests. I hope the process used in the church to investigate claims against church officials is just to the accusers and the accused.
Are church officials turning all criminal cases, as they are reported, over to civil authorities for investigation now?
I listened to Fr. Corapi on one the two local Catholic radio stations. I learn a lot from those stations.
I liked Fr. Corapi very much. I also like Fr. E. I just learned not to idolize any man.
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