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Posted on 06/19/2011 7:01:10 AM PDT by Pride_of_the_Bluegrass
One Saturday afternoon last winter, I drove north on Route 85 through the rolling rangeland of southeastern Wyoming. I was headed to a small town north of Cheyenne to see an old friend and colleague named Michael Glatze. We worked together 12 years ago at XY, a San Francisco-based national magazine for young gay men, back when we were young gay men ourselves.
Though only a year removed from Dartmouth when he arrived at XY, Michael had seemingly read every gay book ever written. While I was busy trying to secure a boyfriend, he was busy contemplating queer theory, marching in gay rights rallies and urging young people to celebrate (not just accept) their same-sex attractions. Michael was devoted to helping gay youth, and he was particularly affected by the letters the magazine received regularly from teenagers who were rejected by their religious families. “Christian fundamentalists should burn in hell!” he told me once, slamming his fist on his desk. I had never met anyone so sure of himself.
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Well, for him, living where the center of gay everything is just a bus ride away is sort of like dieting next to a candy factory.
My oldest daughter is a lesbian. If she was ever molested she has never mentioned it to me. The only “abuse” she suffered was the fact that her real father didn’t bother much with her or her sister after our divorce. Their stepfather was a far better father to them. Her three sisters are all straight.
Interesting enough her partner’s parents are also divorced, and her father is absent in her life.
I don’t think we can make blanket assumptions about abuse or molestation.
It didn’t ask me to sign in, which makes me wonder, am I logged in?
An “ex-gay” must have “never really been gay”. How convenient.
Typical “ trying to fill that hole in your life” with everything you can think of, until you actually find out the only thing that can fill it, is Jesus. If you are truly “born again”, you know exactly what I am talking about.
That might be an admission that he was (is?) an ugly duckling (or perhaps perceiving themselves as such even if they are good looking themselves) and that is why so many gays are abnormally ugly.
Thinking about it, It might be that it's the ugly ones that target the good looking kids as objects of their affection, bestowing much attention, favors and words of praise on them in order to gain their confidence, trust and friendship -- always with a view to eventually gaining their bodies.
So to test this possibilty, check out your gay acquaintances and see if the uglier of the two plays the the opposite sex in the relationship.
And quite a few other analogies.
I remember reading a few years ago somebody saying: "You're more likely to be gay growing up in California than in Oklahoma." I completely agree.
Indeed. The hatred thrown at ex-gays and those who claim change is possible is quite telling. A guy named Robert Spitzer was key in getting homosexuality removed from the mental illness DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual). Then he interviewed about 200 ex-gays and now believes gays can change. After discussing his belief that gays can change, Spitzer once had to cancel a conference because of fears for his safety. And gays want tolerance... as long as they agree with it.
hate to tell ya TG....I got in on first click too :P (and I’m on dial up) Sorry...just have a little fun teasing.
Can’t figure why it would ask you to register...
I do think a lot of homosexuals experience some sort of trauma, but it isn’t all necessarily abuse. One study showed that lesbians lost their mothers (to death) in the preteen years at a much higher rate than the general population.
Think of the women who are married for 15, 20, 30 years and are divorced and now “out.” I think the trauma from the divorce is a driver.
I think there are definite self image problems and I think the psychological community really needs to study these and help people deal with them.
For some divorce alone is enough.
I certainly don't know if this is the case with your daughter, but a sensitive person might sub-consciously lose all hope of a man being committed to her if she sees such a dynamic happen with her parents.
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Yes, more than one actually. Although the trauma and lack of a good relationship with a father is very common.
Yes, more than one actually. Although the trauma and lack of a good relationship with a father is very common.
You’ll notice that when he was gay, his heart was full of hate for people who didn’t agree with his choice. Now he only hates what he did rather than people.
Homosexual activist hate no one more viscerally than the “gay” who has seen the light and is “gay” no more.
Yep, that’s the lady I’m thinking of.
Yes, I’ve heard that quite a few times from friends.
That's not something that people just "mention" in a matter-of-fact sort of way. Even if you are close to your daughter, it would be difficult to talk about, especially if it was a family member or a close family friend.
That’s funny in a sad way. I know a hetro man who is a serial cheater.. the more perverted the better. His current wife (#4) will do the most despicable things to keep him. The guy is an addict. Seriously. In passing once he made a comment about his father always making him feel like he’s 12.... like he has to prove something. Destroyed from the inside out.
The Michael person is right.. it’s about trying on anything to make yourself feel loved when the Right One is before you and you still reject Him.
I know at least one gay man who was molested by his gay uncle as a child before that I know he did show interest in girls. The “lesbians” I know had a more incidental cause. One woman I know was raped as a child she was involved with a “transexual” and converted to Islam and is now married. Another had a roomate in college that introduced her to lesbianism. I feel a bit bad because she had shown interest in me. I know of a professor who was heterosexual for many years and had a penchant for cheating on his wife with his young female students. Some how he ended up with one of his male students. I think he burnt himself out personally. All of these things are much more complex than anyone will admit.
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