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Penn Jillette says he's glad Tenn. lost Miss USA
Waterloo-Cedar Falls Courier ^ | June 21, 2011

Posted on 06/21/2011 6:01:01 PM PDT by xjcsa

Magician and Miss USA judge Penn Jillette says he's happy a pageant queen from Tennessee lost to Miss California USA Alyssa Campanella because her onstage answer to a question about burning Qurans ran afoul of the First Amendment.

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Durham responded to a question about whether burning religious items should be afforded the same constitutional protections as flag burning by saying it crossed a line and shouldn't be allowed.

(Excerpt) Read more at wcfcourier.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: missusa; penn; teller
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To: xjcsa
You should be able to demonstrate in any manner you like, safely.

But burning the flag is burning the 1st Amendment. Can't savvy that.

21 posted on 06/21/2011 6:39:07 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Navy Patriot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkSlywOodho#t=1m39sec


22 posted on 06/21/2011 6:42:28 PM PDT by Krankor (Her voice was soft and cool, her eyes were clear and bright . But she's not there)
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To: RobRoy
Penn is right, though I might not put it the way he did.

And that's why he gets paid the big bucks

23 posted on 06/21/2011 6:45:15 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Monarchy is the one system of government where power is exercised for the good of all - Aristotle)
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To: calex59
Jillette is no liberal. Just a outspoken libertarian. And apparently a first amendment absolutist. I thought her answer was fine. She wasn't asked about the "constitutionality" just whether she thought it was "right" to burn a Koran. The real problem would have been if she had said: "Yes, it's OK, because of free speech". She would have still lost, and the theater would have been burned to the ground by peace-loving Muslims.

I agree that these kinds of political questions are asked of freakin' BEAUTY PAGEANT contestants is wrong. She was damned either way she answered.

24 posted on 06/21/2011 6:46:18 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: pnh102

Does that include their dog?


25 posted on 06/21/2011 6:46:18 PM PDT by LivingNet
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To: Repeal The 17th

That’s what I thought too!? As much as I would hate to see it, as a previous poster said, if it is your property you should be able to do fold, mutilate and spindle as you see fit.

Of course it may warrant a butt kicking from a proud American, but as they say “I love the 1st Amendment, let’s you know who the idiots are!” Same goes with peaceful protest marches by whacko groups, etc.


26 posted on 06/21/2011 6:47:09 PM PDT by 21twelve (Obama Recreating the New Deal: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts)
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To: calex59
So, she said something he didn't like so he falls back on the first amendment by saying she had no right to her first amendment rights. Typical liberal response or simply an idiot.

Where did he say she had no "right" to say what she said? He didn't call for her arrest; he didn't advocate fining her. The first amendment applies *only* to the government - "Congress shall make no law..."

He disagreed with her. He expressed his pleasure that she didn't win a pageant. Where in that process did he violate any of her rights?

27 posted on 06/21/2011 6:47:58 PM PDT by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Pharmboy

...What did she say????????


28 posted on 06/21/2011 6:51:00 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: xjcsa

I think twitting during a Miss USA Pagant is grounds for having to turn in your real mans license. Assuming he ever had one to begin with.


29 posted on 06/21/2011 6:51:37 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule
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To: Recovering_Democrat

>>>Well thank God we all know what Penn Gillette thinks now.

I’ll sleep well, in comfort with the knowledge. :)


30 posted on 06/21/2011 6:53:02 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: xjcsa
According to the article: "Durham responded to a question about whether burning religious items should be afforded the same constitutional protections as flag burning by saying it crossed a line and shouldn't be allowed."

Based on the above, he didn't ask what she thought "is", he asked what she thought "should be". As such, her answer is not incorrect.

Let's try:

Should US Senators be elected by the Constitutional vote of the population of their states? My answer is "no", they should be chosen by the State legislatures as was done before the 17th Amendment. Of course that would require amending the Constitution."

Or how about:

Should the right to keep and bear arms be Constitutionally protected? My answer is: "Yes, as it is now." Some might answer "No, but it is now so we need to amend the Constitution."

Based on the article her answer is not incorrect, although her view might be.

31 posted on 06/21/2011 6:55:49 PM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: xjcsa

Thank you Penn, can you give me your thoughts on the cast of Jersey Shore next....


32 posted on 06/21/2011 6:57:29 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Krankor
Thanks for the link.

Miss Tennessee is incorrect in both parts of her answer, as the question is asked in a First Amendment Constitutional framework.

33 posted on 06/21/2011 6:58:24 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Holy flippin' crap, Sarah rocks the world!)
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To: Pharmboy

MY Oh MY


34 posted on 06/21/2011 7:04:49 PM PDT by Charlespg
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To: LivingNet
Does that include their dog?

No, such people would just get to play in the NFL instead.

35 posted on 06/21/2011 7:07:40 PM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: xjcsa
Did every contestant get a hot topic question like that one???

What was the purpose of the pageant? Was it held to stir up political controversy?

There's a place for questions like that but why in a beauty pageant?

I'd have fared worse than Miss Tennessee. If I'd been asked a question like that in a setting like that, I'd have told the prick to go f**k himself!

36 posted on 06/21/2011 7:07:52 PM PDT by CharlyFord
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To: RobRoy

If you;ve ever seen his show BULL***T you know Penn takes this stuff very seriously. He’s a rather relentless and hardline libertarian. The show hit all the right notes a good 95% of the time.BUT I don’t know why he’d enter the fray with a personal comment. These high-profile Beauty
Pageants have reached for significance instead of allowing the girls to get away with “I want to work for World Peace”
tripe.A year or two ago the notorious gay “Perez Hilton” said for public consumption he wanted to rip the crown from the head of the winner when she said she didn’t support gay marriage. Looks like the shows are courting a little controversy , in a bid for ‘relevance’.


37 posted on 06/21/2011 7:10:42 PM PDT by supremedoctrine
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To: Pharmboy

Wouldn’t mind being her first cousin at all...


38 posted on 06/21/2011 7:11:48 PM PDT by GunsAndBibles (All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing)
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To: Navy Patriot

To be fair, the question was asked in a somewhat convoluted way and Ms. Tennessee does not come across as the brightest apple in the barrel. I think she ignored the “constitutionality” aspect of the question and just gave her opinion that disrespecting religion and flags is a line that people shouldn’t cross. When she threw in that part about burning flags not being patriotic, I was half expecting her to start saying, “I personally believe that US Americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don’t have flags, and I believe that our education like such as South Africa, and the Iraq,...”


39 posted on 06/21/2011 7:16:12 PM PDT by Krankor (Her voice was soft and cool, her eyes were clear and bright . But she's not there)
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To: xjcsa
This country has lost it's mind.

We are getting the vapors out of career beauty queens pageant answers. 2 years ago Ms California was accused of hate speech for defending normal marriage, now this.

40 posted on 06/21/2011 7:24:41 PM PDT by AU72
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