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"Have to do this": Cuomo Charts Course for Gay Marriage in NY
MSNBC / NYT ^ | 6/25/2011 | Michael Barbaro

Posted on 06/25/2011 4:21:03 PM PDT by sinanju

"...The story of how same-sex marriage became legal in New York is about shifting public sentiment and individual lawmakers moved by emotional appeals from gay couples who wish to be wed.

But, behind the scenes, it was really about a Republican Party reckoning with a profoundly changing power dynamic, where Wall Street donors and gay-rights advocates demonstrated more might and muscle than a Roman Catholic hierarchy and an ineffective opposition. And it was about a Democratic governor, himself a Catholic, who used the force of his personality and relentlessly strategic mind to persuade conflicted lawmakers to take a historic leap.

“I can help you,” Mr. Cuomo assured them in dozens of telephone calls and meetings, at times pledging to deploy his record-high popularity across the state to protect them in their districts. “I am more of an asset than the vote will be a liability.” ...

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: catholic; cino; cuomo; vichyrepublican
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To: heye2monn

Sandra Lee has a GAY BROTHER??? Oh geesh, that answers that question!!! LIBERALISM IS A DISEASE!!!


41 posted on 06/25/2011 5:52:20 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Fishtalk
"any Republican that voted for this thing needs to get kicked out of the party."

LOL!

The history of the Republican Party is knee deep in Statism. Redefining marriage is just a continuation of the cycle in central planning. The "Rockefellers" are toasting in delight right now.
42 posted on 06/25/2011 6:00:59 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: sayuncledave
‘highly organized same-sex marriage coalition’

This are big organizations with enormous amounts of money flowing in, lots of legal teams, $$ from taxpayers, foundations, corporations. The legal teams are ferocious.

either people stop this accepting their silly challenges by quoting Scripture at them and get in and fight, it's going to be lose, lose lose. They will take over yet more churches and gran church property.

They are organized, lawyered-up, have millions and millions, and it's about MONEY and POWER, not being able to be in the hospital with your ‘partner’, or all the other fuzzy-bear arguments they come up with. And quoting scripture at them is laughable.

they want homosexual priests, pastors and ministers so the real Christians will go away in a huff and THEY get all the church property that people have worked and contributed for/to for many, many generations.

It's about money and power. These organizations are like the Mafia.

People had better start fighting back now. They guilt, guilt, guilt. Ignore it and remember, these big organizations want your money and power over you.

Did you see the photographs of all the gays and lesbians up in the NY state-house gallery? they were all handsome, pretty, goodlooking and young. I am sure GLAAD picked every one of them.

Remember the kerfuffle over the painting of the Virgin Mary surrounded by elephant dung? The media got shots of all the old fat women protesting the painting with their mouths open.

If you find your church considering a homosexual leader, fight it with all the determination you can don't be guilted and remember these parasite are after your church property. Lawyer up! Don't be guilted -— and don't quote scripture to them, they just go home and have a big effing laugh over it.

It may be coming ujp in my church soon.

43 posted on 06/25/2011 6:01:28 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: sinanju

Just wondering: Is there something we HAVEN’T done to assure the collapse of western civilization? The schools are already well dumbed down; abortion limits population; gay “marriage” limits pre-abortion procreation; homosexuality will weaken the armed services; and what’s left will be bankrupted with court fees or jailed for opposing any part of it. Hate to say it, but Sharia almost looks good.


44 posted on 06/25/2011 6:25:58 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: sinanju; Elendur; it_ürür; Bockscar; Mary Kochan; Bed_Zeppelin; YellowRoseofTx; Rashputin; ...
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Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.


45 posted on 06/25/2011 6:28:09 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: sayuncledave

The POPE needs to kick him out!!!


46 posted on 06/25/2011 7:13:12 PM PDT by therut
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To: B.O. Plenty

Is that you Mr Phelps?


47 posted on 06/25/2011 7:35:56 PM PDT by newzjunkey (abortion is tolerated but gays will be the end of us all? does not compute)
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To: sinanju
"himself a Catholic"

No, certainly he is not. His bishop should make sure he knows he's run afoul. As recently as last year in MN, persons were been denied communion for support of gay marriage. They wore rainbow sashes at mass.

48 posted on 06/25/2011 7:45:29 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: sinanju
“I can help you,” Mr. Cuomo assured them...“I am more of an asset than the vote will be a liability.”

They're foolish to trust him.

49 posted on 06/25/2011 7:49:15 PM PDT by newzjunkey
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To: sinanju

>>> I’m under the impression that, where it’s legal, very few gays marry as gay relationships tend to be anything but stable and your average well-to-do homosexual has no intention of splitting his property and paycheck with his boy toy.

That is EXACTLY correct. But it’s a point lost in the noise and hysteria. The pattern so far has been there will be an initial flurry of (generally older) gays marrying because they can. Then interest fades. And the divorce/property-division battles are now beginning.


50 posted on 06/26/2011 1:02:32 AM PDT by tlb
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