Posted on 06/27/2011 9:06:31 PM PDT by Kevmo
Established Physics Has Another New Fusion Problem
June 27, 2011 | 2 Comments
Brillouin Energy Corp In Berkeley California has another Low Energy Nuclear Reaction (LENR) method in the development and proving stage. The new method comes at fusion from a different path than the Rossi E-Cat. The reports have the Brillouin at nearly 2 times the energy coming out from that going in. If this is real the established physicists have a new “won’t fit” phenomena to cope with.
In the simple explanation the Brillouin technique uses an electromagnetic pulse slamming into hydrogen or H1. The pulse pushes some of the hydrogen into dihydrogen or H2 and on to H3 and H4. Finally some hydrogen molecules reach the stage of helium. The method generates heat – more heat energy than electrical energy used to run the pulse.
Brillouin Reactor Simple Block Diagram. Click Image for the largest view.
Using a catalyst the method stimulates a Controlled Electron Capture Reaction (CECR) in the catalyst. The catalyst reaction creates low energy neutrons. The neutrons generate heat as they are captured by other atoms or molecules building up heavier elements.
Does it work or is it scam? The list of folks advising is pretty impressive. The list includes Robert Clear PhD. past Staff Scientist for Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory in the Applied Science Division. Then there’s Michael C.H. McKubre PhD., Director, Energy Research Center, Stanford Research Institute. Plus Charles S. Holden, scientific consultant, works with Pacific Northwest National Laboratory in development of nuclear Fuel cycles and medical isotopes.
Brillouin’s proprietary electronic pulse generator promotes proton-electron capture reactions. The pulses change some of the protons in metal to neutrons, and surrounding nuclei subsequently captures these produced neutrons. The subsequent neutron capture reactions generate heat, and because the pulses are controlled the thermal output from Brillouin’s proprietary technology safely provides clean heat on demand. It’s a very different take on getting past the Coulomb Barrier.
Brillouin believes its approach enhances the efficiency of making heat with thermal energy production because all costs associated with fuels are avoided. There is no combustion meaning there are no emissions, or need for chimneys, flues or fuel storage.
The high temperature and high pressure system can be adapted to produce hot water or steam in boilers for emission free space heating applications. More advanced applications of Brillouin’s technology could power boilers for ocean going ships and desalinization applications. Refinement and development of the technology could ultimately provide methods that significantly reduce costs associated with electric power generation.
If you have a power point program Brillouin offers a pps file that covers the technical and scientific details.
While Rossi seems way out in front at higher temperatures and a larger energy output factor, Brillouin offers a competitive way to produce heat, with just two research and testing stages competed and a third under way shooting for a 3 times heat to electrical input. It’s a long way to catch Rossi, but the chase is on.
Meanwhile, a little digging will show Mr. Robert E. Godes is an electrical engineer with it seems, a penchant for looking at things without the narrowed view of advanced degrees. Godes began in 1992 exploring the science underlying Low Energy Nuclear Reactions. In 1996 he started designing the first experimental hardware and circuitry. From 1996 to 2002, he funded and conducted work that led to the first productive test reactor.
Godes and three others formed Profusion Energy in late 2005 and started the patent process. All the while Godes continued to personally fund all company expenses and operations through the development of the analytical reactor control system. The effort is estimated to have used 5800 man-hours of labor.
The reactor itself required custom equipment and software prior to performing the initial assembly and testing. This work included custom circuit design, comprehensive systems analysis, firmware development, and special testing of various components, all developed and supplied by Mr. Godes. Demonstration of the CECR system for patent lawyers prompted the lawyers to write a second patent on a specific aspect of the hardware.
Profusion Energy ran on Godes’ cash lending and when the wall was hit in 2008 the property of Profusion, patents, property and assets returned to Godes for settlement of the debt. In 2009 with no revenues, but with a working unit and testing results Godes was able to startup with some outside capital. Brillouin started up with services of MCM Group, Inc., Grosvenor Financial Partners, LLC, and the patent lawyers in exchange for founders stock. In February 2009, Mr. Godes transferred his patent applications and other intellectual property to Brillouin. This may sound a little convoluted, but Godes managed to keep the intellectual property in control as the second phase of getting to a business proposition stopped and the third stage got underway. Some will find this suspicious, but its not: its just good business sense.
Godes and Brillouin have experiments underway designed to measure excess heat produced by their proprietary electrical stimulation of metals containing dissolved hydrogen such as nickel and palladium. Other metals are scheduled for testing in the upcoming months.
While Rossi may have hit on the handiest means to fuse hydrogen into nickel Godes is working to close up the gap with a method that might prove even simpler. Whether either one or both prove up in the market, Godes pointed out a truth: “Ignorance of the physics underlying a phenomenon that is difficult to reproduce makes it almost impossible to gain control over that phenomenon. Once the physics is understood, it is a matter of engineering to control it and make it useful.”
Almost impossible.
The Cold Fusion Ping List
Hmmmmm
“H2 and on to H3 and H4. Finally some hydrogen molecules reach the stage of helium”
That doesn’t make a whit of sense.
June 25, 2011
Brillouin Energy Corporation
http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/06/brillouin-energy-corporation.html#0_undefined,0_
Brillouin Energy Corporation (BEC) technology uses the hydrogen in ordinary water in a nuclear process that produces no hazardous waste. The process stimulates a Controlled Electron Capture Reaction (CECR) in a catalyst. This process creates low energy neutrons. The neutrons generate heat as they are captured, building heavier elements.
NOTE- This group is using a process with many similarities to Rossi energy catalyzer. They are not getting as much energy gain (less than a double right now, but are targeting getting more than triple in the next round). They are working at a few hundred watts (so about ten times less than what Rossi is claiming).
Brillouin’s proprietary electronic pulse generator promotes proton-electron capture reactions. The pulses change some of the protons in metal to neutrons, and surrounding nuclei subsequently captures these produced neutrons. The subsequent neutron capture reactions generate heat, and because the pulses are controlled the thermal output from Brillouin’s proprietary technology safely provides clean heat on demand.
Technical discussion of Brillouin’s work on a powerpoint.
* Quantum Fusion theory indicates reaction will scale with increasing temperature and pressure.
* Existing systems demonstrate 2 less than Pout/Pin greater than 1. (getting almost twice the power out as they are putting in.)
* Next round will demonstrate greater than 3X.
* Next round expected to prove technology will have industrial applications.
Information collected from Brillouin’s first round of experiments demonstrated that the proprietary electronic pulse generator produced excess heat when applied to nickel and to palladium. Excess heat is the amount of thermal energy that exceeds the energy used to drive the pulse generator and its associated electronics. Second round experiments conducted in a high temperature and high-pressure test cell confirm that excess heat is produced on demand in repeatable amounts. Presently the company’s pulse generator is being studied and tested at SRI, International in Menlo Park California.
The US commercial boiler market is $1.1 billion and growing. The business model addresses the market by providing economic and environmentally sustainable solutions. The technology provides heat on demand without emissions and avoids other costs associated with fossil fuels. Brillouin’s value proposition eliminates need for fuel purchases.
Brillouin has entered into its first international licensing agreement covering three nations and is involved in on-going negotiations for other potential international partners.
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A little more credible than Rossi...
I’d go for 2:1
Is there a bistro-matics ping list?
(nothing against the C/F folk — I have just always loved that concept, especially having lived it...)
Cold fusion is a fraud. It’s designed to suck tax dollars out of the US government to hire more Democrat scientists for green energy jobs!
Cows in Berkeley? Moooooooooooooooooooo!!!
This reminds me of a few years ago where some no-count in Germany said he invented the hyperdrive; but he wouldn’t tell anybody how it worked, lest they steal his idea. And I think this was in the San Francisco Chronicle too.
This is what happens when you let people from the society pages do a Science/Technology article.
i agree.
...and i was ready to totally dismiss this as a hoax, when i read about the “self destruct” mechanism that had to be built into each machine. my “BS Meter” went off.
but, a FReeper named Warthog_wonder(?) still has an open mind, and he knows a LOT more about it than i do.
(i admit i know almost nothing about this)
so as long as he’s interested, so am i.
(and, i certainly can hope! this would be magic!)
That doesn’t make a whit of sense.
I don't think there's anything higher than H³. I think tritium's the end of the line. Next thing up is He and a whole lot of MC².
Nfld
With 2 for 1, I can have my cake, and eat it too. I could live with that!
With 2 for 1 I can have my cake, and eat it too. I could live with that!
“The subsequent neutron capture reactions generate heat, and because the pulses are controlled the thermal output from Brillouin’s proprietary technology safely provides clean heat on demand.”
As they say: If it sounds too good to be true, it probably isn’t.
Perhaps I will believe it when I see it being sold at Costco.
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