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Issa rips Obama's silence on ATF gun-tracking matter
thehill.com ^ | 06/29/11 04:07 PM ET | Jordy Yager

Posted on 06/30/2011 5:08:17 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

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1 posted on 06/30/2011 5:08:19 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: All; Nachum; 444Flyer; Munz; SunkenCiv; mojitojoe
Another update on FFGate: is seemingly a news black-out.

'Project Gunrunner' Whistleblower Says ATF Sent Him Termination Notice

2 posted on 06/30/2011 5:14:22 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Bump


3 posted on 06/30/2011 5:20:26 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: The flash mob who wonÂ’t leave.)
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To: GlockThe Vote

Obama and Holder both already outright lied and Holder was under oath;when they said they knew nothing about this.And now Obama is saying I am KING and ordering an investigation on him self and his DOJ by the IG? Obama is known for FIRING
Inspector Generals when the investigation does not favor him,his admin,his wife, or his friends. (SEE WALPINGATE)

So we are suppose to shut up and move along while he and his DOJ obstruct justice,plead the fifth and lie?


4 posted on 06/30/2011 5:25:26 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Maybe they can get Janet Reno to take the fall? Oh wait, no need, they will just lie and ignore it. It’s just another disaster they created.


5 posted on 06/30/2011 5:28:30 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Compare the media noise on this with the Valerie Plame story.


6 posted on 06/30/2011 5:31:39 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (If you try to fail and you succeed , what have you just done?)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Sorry! What I have seen out of Issa so far reminds me of a chihuahua yipping at an M-1 Abrams Army tank!


7 posted on 06/30/2011 5:35:50 AM PDT by Tucker39
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

“...he certainly would not have ordered gun running...”

This is Chicago speak for: “Sure we signed off on it, but you won’t find MY finger prints on it!”


8 posted on 06/30/2011 5:44:02 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: Tucker39

At least he’s ‘yipping’.
Spineless Republicans are doing nothing even though they know Obongo’s a Marxist/Muslim usurper.

Issa has raked up enough dirt for the Republican candidates to use against Obongo but I doubt they’ll have the guts.


9 posted on 06/30/2011 5:48:57 AM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Obama said he would comment further on the issue once the investigation is completed.
I can see it now...
"The investigation indicates that nobody knows who authorized this and it contends that rogue agents in the agency were responsible. Sadly, it doesn't indicate who those rogue agents are either. We know nothing more than you and the investigation does not state conclusively where the blame should be placed so we're not going to blame anybody."
10 posted on 06/30/2011 5:55:52 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Fact: As early as 2008 officials in this administration cite American guns as being the primary arms of violent Mexican criminals (which is proven false). Eric Holder states unequivocally (in 2009) that this is the primary reason that the administration will seek to “re-institute the ban on the sale of assault weapons”.

Fact: This administration caused at least thousands of weapons to be illegally sold to people known to resell said weapons across the Mexican border.

Fact: Between 2009 and 2010 more than 3500 Gun were allowed to “walk” into Mexico.

Fact: In a Jan. 25, 2011, Phoenix press conference, Special Agent in Charge William Newell was asked whether ATF agents were ever ordered to allow guns to “walk” into Mexico. He answered, “Hell no!”

Fact: In a February 4, 2011, response letter to Grassley, Justice Department Assistant Attorney General for Legislative Affairs Ron Weich described as “false” Grassley’s assertion that ATF had knowingly allowed guns to be purchased and walked into Mexico.

Fact: Leaked e-mail traffic from spring 2010 documents show that ATF management from Acting Director Kenneth Melson on down were personally briefed in Phoenix on Operation Fast and Furious by Newell.

Fact: The ATF intentionally broke national and international laws with this operation.

Fact: The official ATF explanation for this operation, after being forced to admit that they allowed gun into Mexico, was to allow criminals to buy and transport guns to Mexico so that the ATF could later tie them back to drug cartels when they were used in crimes.

Fact: The ATF could not track firearms used in Mexican crimes except at the request of the Mexican government.

Fact: If the ATF was requested by Mexico to provide firearm tracking information, that request is not likely to provide the information that the ATF said they wanted.

Fact: If the ATF could actually tie a firearm they caused to be illegally sold to a Mexican cartel...so what? They have no jurisdiction in Mexico, no arrest powers, and even if they were to provide this information to Mexican officials it gains local law enforcement nothing.

Fact: At least 150 people have been killed with guns that the ATF knowingly and illegally allowed to be sold.

Fact: Not one person has been arrested by allowing guns to cross the border.

Everyone that can be linked to the decision process is guilty of deprivation of rights under color of law which in this case is a capital crime. A good case could be made that those same people are also guilty of treason.


11 posted on 06/30/2011 5:58:03 AM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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Compare the media noise on this with the Valerie Plame story.

I'm imagining the Gun Walker movie. Probably need Quentin Tarantino to direct. So much violence it would probably rate NC17.

12 posted on 06/30/2011 8:04:02 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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This calls for a trial in the House


13 posted on 06/30/2011 8:20:43 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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“My attorney general has made clear that he certainly would not have ordered gun running to be able to pass through into Mexico,” Obama said.

“The investigation is still pending. I'm not going to comment on a current investigation. I've made very clear my views that would not be an appropriate step by the ATF, and we've got to find out how that happened.


The admission that the gunwalking actually happened is new. His previous statement from last March only indicated that it "may" have happened.

We know from emails that ATF Director Melson was involved. He only has two bosses within the DOJ, according to the DOJ organizational chart: the Deputy AG and the Attorney General. Including Obama, that makes three bosses, two of whom have denied authorizing this operation.

How long is it going to take to investigate whether the one other possible choice authorized it?
14 posted on 06/30/2011 8:41:29 AM PDT by publiusF27
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To: publiusF27

You have an excellent point in pointing out a tactic of stonewalling they could be doing.The Assistant Attorney General,Obama and Holder have denied they know anything.(All but Obama under oath.)

The DAG is under Holder. It is impossible for the Deputy AG to authorize anything without Holder.

http://www.justice.gov/agencies/index-org.html


15 posted on 06/30/2011 8:55:12 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: publiusF27

My bad I forgot The seat of Deputy AG was vacant.

http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2011_cr/s062811.html

So that leaves everyone involved in the highest ranks possible-I believe? denying they knew anything and stonewalling


16 posted on 06/30/2011 9:00:14 AM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: publiusF27

“My attorney general has made clear that he certainly would not have ordered gun running to be able to pass through into Mexico,” Obama said.

This is clearly an implied admission that Holder (his AG) ordered gun running–just not into Mexico (in support of Obama’s scheme to violate the 2nd Amendment).


17 posted on 06/30/2011 10:48:41 AM PDT by reagandemocrat
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http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/06/27/nra-boss-obamas-gone-in-2012

Interesting tidbit in this article is that Obama told Sarah Brady that he was working on gun control “under the radar”.


18 posted on 06/30/2011 11:06:30 AM PDT by cinciella
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I don’t understand how one of the whistle blowers of this case could be fired and it is not 24/7 breaking news? Has our media gone this far down the gutter for Obama?


19 posted on 06/30/2011 12:17:17 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (Allen West 2012 Make it happen!)
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
Has our media gone this far down the gutter for Obama?

Yes.

Whatever advances the cause of communism is a moral good.

20 posted on 06/30/2011 12:22:20 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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