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Subsidized Housing Tenants Live Large On Your Dime (from the "YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING" file)
WMAL News ^ | 6/29/11 | Mark Weaver, WMAL News

Posted on 06/30/2011 5:32:34 AM PDT by Liz

FAIRFAX, Va. -- Resort-style swimming pools with fountains and heated spas, billiards rooms, granite counter tops, ceramic tile, indoor basketball courts, stainless steel appliances -- many Fairfax County taxpayers cannot afford such luxuries. But they are paying for these amenities for use by low-income residents who live in subsidized housing in affluent neighborhoods. "They're a part of our rental program where we subsidize the rents for the individuals in the units, and we end up having to pick up the condo fees," supervisor Pat Herrity told 630 WMAL News.

Herrity does not advocate putting low-income residents in "ghetto-style" housing but he takes issue with taxpayers who cannot afford such luxuries being forced to pick up the tab for people who qualify for subsidized housing. "These are resort-style amenities that the majority of the taxpayers that are subsidizing it don't have on their own," said Herrity, adding that "luxury has no place in subsidized housing." "If the occupants of these homes improve their lives financially, they will be forced to move out.

And the housing they could afford without the taxpayer subsidy is well below the quality of these homes," he said. Herrity said Fairfax County should sell subsidized housing units located in affluent neighborhoods and stop paying the condo fees. "Why would we have taxpayers who are trying to work their way into these neighborhoods pay for somebody else to be put into these neighborhoods," said Herrity.

PHOTOS LINK AT WEB SITE: Examples of Homes and Amenities Provided at Taxpayers' Expense in the County's Rental Program

Subsidized housing in Fairfax Va.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: economy; fairfaxcounty; housing; realestate; section8; virginia; welfare; wmal

1 posted on 06/30/2011 5:32:39 AM PDT by Liz
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To: raybbr

WMAL NEWS SITE BLOGGER When I worked for Connecticut Legal Services (a “poor people” tax exempt legal outfit) we defended a client from eviction whose Section 8 housing allowance was $1,800 a month in Greenwich, Connecticut, the richest town in Connecticut — it would be about $2,500 a month in today’s money. Why? Because there weren’t enough poor people in Greenwich.


2 posted on 06/30/2011 5:33:44 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: Liz

I have observed here in detroit, that the “poor, hungry” people are on average morbidly obese....why is that?


3 posted on 06/30/2011 5:41:23 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: joe fonebone

Because their food choices are as poor as the rest of their life decisions.


4 posted on 06/30/2011 5:42:52 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: Liz; Joe Brower
Enraging. There is no escape from Big Brother's socialist do-gooderism and its unintended consequences.
5 posted on 06/30/2011 5:43:16 AM PDT by Travis McGee (Castigo Cay is in print and on Kindle.)
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To: Travis McGee

Racists and autoracists who sincerely believe “whitey owes these people”.


6 posted on 06/30/2011 5:44:39 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Liz

Tip of the iceberg here in Fairfax County. You can sit in the same traffic jam for 15 years and they won’t do a damned thing with the road but if you need a homeless shelter or halfway house, there’s one not more than 3-4 miles away from wherever you are.


7 posted on 06/30/2011 5:50:00 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: nina0113
Because their food choices are as poor as the rest of their life decisions.

Good point. Being lazy and lacking self control don't get you very far in life.

8 posted on 06/30/2011 5:54:00 AM PDT by randita
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To: nina0113

B I N G O!!!!


9 posted on 06/30/2011 5:54:24 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Educate men without religion and you make of them but clever devils. " Arthur Wellesley)
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To: Liz

this is legacy of bill clinton and andrew cuomo.


10 posted on 06/30/2011 5:57:19 AM PDT by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: Liz

The purpose of Section 8 housing is to import Democrat voters into non-Democrat strongholds and overwhelm the non-Democrat vote.


11 posted on 06/30/2011 5:58:40 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: Liz
Why? Because there weren’t enough poor people Democrat voters in Greenwich.

Fixed it.

12 posted on 06/30/2011 6:00:12 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If Sarah Palin really was unelectable, state-run media would be begging the GOP to nominate her.)
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To: Liz
My head just exploded.

13 posted on 06/30/2011 6:01:34 AM PDT by TSgt ("Some folks just need killin'" - Karl Childers (Sling Blade 1996))
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To: Liz
Stanley Thornton is literally the poster child for government fraud, waste and abuse.

14 posted on 06/30/2011 6:04:23 AM PDT by TSgt ("Some folks just need killin'" - Karl Childers (Sling Blade 1996))
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To: Liz

This topic was just covered the other day, discussing houses in upper-end subdivisions, including in my area (Charlotte, NC). Property-owners, who are often banks these days, love these arrangements because it get income flowing on their myriads of vacant units.


15 posted on 06/30/2011 6:06:09 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I should be, but I'm not.)
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To: mikey_hates_everything

Of course they’re doing something about the traffic: making it worse. It doesn’t matter what road you get on around here, all of them are under construction, and have been for years. How many exits are now closed on 495? Telegraph road should be declared a disaster area. And don’t get me started on the 66 left-exit off the inner loop of 495 where everyone waits until the last possible second to get over and then slams on their brakes.

Will the construction on the GW Parkway EVER get done? And what exactly are they doing, anyway? It looks exactly the same as it did four years ago before they started.


16 posted on 06/30/2011 6:09:36 AM PDT by Echo4C (We have it in our power to begin the world over again. --Thomas Paine)
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To: gussiefinknottle
8-5-08----Village Voice

CUOMO AND BILL CLINTON CREATED CONDITIONS FOR MELTDOWN Andrew Cuomo, the youngest Housing and Urban Development secretary in history, made a series of decisions between 1997 and 2001 that gave birth to the country’s current crisis.

He took actions that—in combination with many other factors—helped plunge Fannie and Freddie into the sub-prime markets without putting in place the means to monitor their increasingly risky investments. He turned the Federal Housing Administration mortgage program into a sweetheart lender with sky-high loan ceilings and no money down, and he legalized what a federal judge has branded “kickbacks” to brokers that have fueled the sale of overpriced and unsupportable loans.

Three to four million families are now facing foreclosure, and Cuomo is one of the reasons why. . . SOURCE http://www.villagevoice.com/2008-08-05/news/how-andrew-cuomo-gave-birth-to-the-crisis-at-fannie-mae-and-freddie-mac/

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Feb 8, 2010
Editorial, The Wall St Journal
FR Posted February 08, 2010 by The Raven ...

HUD's Web visitors learn that in 1999 "Secretary Cuomo established new Affordable Housing Goals requiring Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—two government sponsored enterprises involved in housing finance—to buy $2.4 trillion in mortgages in the next 10 years. This will mean new affordable housing for about 28.1 million low- and moderate-income families.

The historic action raised the required percentage of mortgage loans for low- and moderate-income families that the companies must buy from the current 42 percent of their total purchases to a new high of 50 percent—a 19 percent increase—in the year 2001." ... (Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...

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REFERENCE Entitled, "Highlights of HUD Accomplishments 1997-1999," the document chronicles the "accomplishments under the leadership of Secretary Andrew Cuomo, who took office in January 1997."

HUD's Web visitors learn that in 1999: "Secretary Cuomo established new Affordable Housing Goals requiring Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac—two government sponsored enterprises involved in housing finance—to buy $2.4 trillion in mortgages in the next 10 years. This will mean new affordable housing for about 28.1 million low- and moderate-income families.

Cuomo's historic action raised the required percentage of mortgage loans for low- and moderate-income families that the companies must buy from the current 42% of their total purchases to a new high of 50%—-----a 19% increase—in the year 2001."

17 posted on 06/30/2011 6:10:34 AM PDT by Liz ( A taxpayer voting for Obama is like a chicken voting for Col Sanders.)
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To: randita
Being lazy and lacking self control don't get you very far in life.

Based on this article, it gets you a lot farther than working hard and keeping your nose clean.

18 posted on 06/30/2011 6:25:00 AM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Liz

I lived in a place like that in CT. Had to live in the town for work. 3400 a month. I am sure by some people i saw in the common area that the state had some families stashed away there too.


19 posted on 06/30/2011 6:29:33 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Liz

Here in MA. we have 40B housing. In order to build in a town the builder has to allocate a certain number of units for low income. They are in the process of building an enormous development in my town which is very affluent. This is going to put a tremendous burden on the schools which are excellent.
We looked at one of these 40B developments a few years ago and were told that our price would be $500k but the unit next door, which was subsidized, was going for about $100k. The difference? One had granite and hardwoods and the other carpeting and laminates.


20 posted on 06/30/2011 6:34:07 AM PDT by surrey
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To: Liz
"Herrity does not advocate putting low-income residents in "ghetto-style" housing..."

And therein lies the problem. Even some folks who oppose this don't want to make the poor uncomfortable.

Why not? If we listened to Ben Franklin, and made the poor as uncomfortable in their lives as possible, they may work harder to improve their situation. If not, oh well -- why should I pay for it, when I work hard enough -- and often struggle -- to pay my own way?

I don't mind helping the truly helpless, but I'm tired of helping the worthless.

21 posted on 06/30/2011 6:37:10 AM PDT by AnglePark
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To: Liz

great info, i will never understand why republicans
don’t use this.


22 posted on 06/30/2011 6:40:51 AM PDT by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: Liz

HUD-under-Cuomo (they had a big picture of him hanging in the lobby) was the place I interviewed where all the cubizens were watching soap operas at lunchtime as I walked through to the interview room. By the time I got there, I already didn’t want the job.


23 posted on 06/30/2011 6:42:31 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: randita
"Good point. Being lazy and lacking self control don't get you very far in life"
Evidentally, per the aricle, it does.....
24 posted on 06/30/2011 6:45:12 AM PDT by nevergore ("It could be that the purpose of my life is simply to serve as a warning to others.")
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To: TSgt

I don’t care about the gym or (much) the pool, but I’d really like those oversized caramel-stained maple cabinets. And so many of them!


25 posted on 06/30/2011 6:45:26 AM PDT by nina0113
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To: nina0113
but I’d really like those oversized caramel-stained maple cabinets. And so many of them!

The irony with all those cabinets is that they'll not be used. Poor people are much more likely to eat fast food and microwaved meals than to cook from scratch. They're less likely to have an abundance of dishes, cookware and kitchen appliances.

26 posted on 06/30/2011 6:56:39 AM PDT by Gena Bukin
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To: Liz

I recently came back from a trip to Asheville to visit family. In the paper they were talking about a community meeting for West Asheville. They quoted the director of the Pisgah View housing project as saying, “Crime is down and we have gotten some things we wanted, but we are still lacking a pool and a tennis court.” I am NOT making this up!

Also, my brother who does cable installation has to go to that particular project & says it is awful. One time some teeneagers shot his truck & him w/ rubber bullets. He says that in the middle of the afternoon it is crawling w/ people just hanging out and enjoying life. Not working, not gardening to supplement their food, not volunteering; just getting high & looking at people menacingly who come in to do honest work.

My mother would also like a pool. Wait, I forgot, she works for a living. Nix that...........


27 posted on 06/30/2011 7:02:18 AM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Liz
Why? Because there weren’t enough poor people in Greenwich.

Well, that's true. I hope the libtards in Greenwich are happy with their nouveau pauvre...

28 posted on 06/30/2011 7:31:44 AM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: Liz

The same thing is going on around Pittsburgh. Under a court order called the Saunders Decree (out of some lawsuit claiming that putting Section 8 tenants into neighborhoods where there was already a lot of Section 8 housing was somehow racist) the County has actually been forced to buy homes in very nice suburbs and then lease them out to Section 8 tenants.


29 posted on 06/30/2011 7:41:50 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: nina0113

I wish that the next time a morbidly obese welfare recipient stands up and says my children are hungry, whatever politician it is says, “ How about taking some of the 4000 calories a day you consume, and giving it to your children. Then they would not be hungry.”


30 posted on 06/30/2011 7:46:50 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: joe fonebone

Well, Michelle Obama says that many inner city areas are food deserts. They don’t have nice chain grocery stores with food variety. She says that too many in the food deserts shop at convenience stores and liquor stores, where the only food available is junk food.

And she has talked a bit about how some people don’t want their kids to go outside and play in some of these areas, but never really spelled out what the danger is in these neighborhoods.


31 posted on 06/30/2011 8:20:02 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: AnglePark
"Herrity does not advocate putting low-income residents in "ghetto-style" housing..."

And therein lies the problem. Even some folks who oppose this don't want to make the poor uncomfortable.

Exactly. I advocate putting them (or more appropriately, having them put themselves) in whatever housing their "low-income" can afford. If that'a a cardboard box, too effing bad. I don't care anymore. Food stamps, WIC, section 8, subsidized housing, subsidized cell phones, extended unemployment benefits, farm subsidies, ethanol subsidies, foreign aid, end it all. No one gets any government money unless they are providing a product or service to the government.

32 posted on 06/30/2011 10:02:54 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Don't mend SS, end it.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Liz.


33 posted on 07/02/2011 7:30:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's the Obamacare, stupid! -- Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: joe fonebone

Because there are no chain supermarkets in Detroit and only can get cheap starchy foods. Hope I quoted Rev. Jackson right.

BTW, I have a flyer for a store at 8 and Hoover, family pack of T-Bone and Porterhouse steaks $2.98/lb. Might check it out later. Nor sure on the quality.


34 posted on 07/02/2011 7:49:22 AM PDT by Springman (Rest In Peace YaYa123 and Bahbah.)
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To: Liz

It is happening in Westchester, NY in one of the wealthiest sections right now.

http://scarsdale.patch.com/articles/group-says-westchester-failing-to-meet-affordable-housing-obligations


35 posted on 07/02/2011 8:01:54 AM PDT by dervish (women candidates, the last frontier)
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To: Liz

Time to end all subsidized housing, another Dem scam.


36 posted on 07/06/2011 9:27:48 PM PDT by cradle of freedom (Long live the Republic !)
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To: Liz

“If the occupants of these homes improve their lives financially, they will be forced to move out.”

Which is precisely why they WON’T improve their lives financially.


37 posted on 07/16/2011 6:46:55 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Hey Tea Party folks - what about Social Security reform?)
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