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Gunwalker: Holder’s resignation is almost inevitable
sistertoldjah.com ^ | 6 July, 2011 | Phineas

Posted on 07/10/2011 6:04:09 PM PDT by marktwain

Gunwalker: Holder’s resignation is almost inevitable

And the only way that doesn’t happen is if he is fool-enough to stay in office, Obama is fool-enough not to fire him, and Congress has no choice but to remove him from office.

Consider: On the 4th of July, a national holiday, acting head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives gave testimony to House and Senate investigators on Operation “Fast and Furious,” aka “Gunwalker.”

Without telling his bosses.

And bringing his own lawyer, not the Bureau’s and not the Department of Justice’s.

To quote Allahpundit — Dude!

This morning, House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa and Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Charles Grassley released a copy of a letter (PDF) they sent to Attorney General Eric Holder on July 5 about Melson’s testimony. Melson’s revelations raise even more serious issues not only about the operation itself, but about apparent attempts by the Justice Department to mislead Congress on the details of the operation.

Contrary to the Justice Department’s denials, according to Melson, ATF agents specifically witnessed transfers of weapons from straw purchasers to third parties without taking any further action. Melson claimed that it was not until the public disclosure of the operation that he personally reviewed the “hundreds of documents” related to the case. He said he became “sick to his stomach” when he learned the full story. Even more shocking is that some of the “gun trafficking ‘higher-ups’ that the ATF sought to identify were already known to other agencies and may even have been paid as informants” by agencies such as the FBI and the DEA.

Melson provided detailed information and documents to the Office of the Deputy Attorney General at the Justice Department. But that information was not given to Congress by then-Acting Deputy Attorney General James Cole. In fact, “Melson was not allowed to communicate to Congress” and “Justice Department officials directed [ATF’s senior leadership] not to respond and took full control of replying to briefing and document requests from Congress.” According to the letter Issa and Grassley sent to Holder, it was “two days after [Melson] told [Cole] about serious issues involving lack of information sharing” that the Wall Street Journal suddenly reported that Melson was about to be ousted by the Obama administration.

Emphasis added. The Deputy Attorney General is the Attorney General’s chief assistant — the department’s number two. Here is how his authority is described by the DoJ:

The Deputy Attorney General advises and assists the Attorney General in formulating and implementing Departmental policies and programs and in providing overall supervision and direction to all organizational units of the Department. The Deputy Attorney General is authorized to exercise all the power and authority of the Attorney General, except where such power or authority is prohibited by law from delegation or has been delegated to another official. In the absence of the Attorney General, the Deputy Attorney General acts as the Attorney General.

Think about this: Melson, head of the BATF, gave Cole, Holder’s chief deputy, “detailed information and documents,” after Melson had seen enough to make him sick. And instead of letting himself be set up as the fall-guy, he got his own lawyer –a former US Attorney– rather than let government lawyers “represent” him. Gee, I wonder why he’d feel that need?

But wait, there’s more!

In a related article, Bob Owens quotes an email from the Phoenix BATF office referencing an inter-agency meeting that shows how widespread knowledge of Gunwalker was:

The October 27, 2009 email from ATF Phoenix Field Division Special Agent in Charge (SAC) William Newell regarded a Southwest Border Strategy Group meeting that focused on Fast and Furious. It contained a laundry list of high ranking Justice Department officials that attended the meeting, including:

* Assistant Attorney General (Criminal Division) Lanny Breuer,

* Kenneth Melson, Acting Director, ATF

* William Hoover, Acting Deputy Director, ATF

* Michele Leonhart, Administrator, DEA

* Robert Mueller, Director FBI

Four other Justice Department directors or their representatives came from the Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCDETF), Bureau of Prisons (BOP), U.S. Marshals Service (USMS), and the Executive Office for United States Attorneys (EOUSA). The chair of the Attorney Generals Advisory Committee (AGAC) also attended the session. Their names were redacted in the released document. U.S. attorneys for all four southwest border states also attended.

With all this legal and bureaucratic firepower in one room being briefed on Gunwalker, there is absolutely no way Attorney General Eric Holder did not know what was going on, which may make the DoJ’s actions in response to requests for information from Issa’s committee Obstruction, a felony. And interference with Melson’s testimony may also be Tampering, under Title 18, Section 1512 of the US Code. (See subsections (b) and (c).)

This is why I say Eric Holder is a “Dead Bureaucrat Walking.” There is too much to indicate he is either monumentally detached from his supervisory responsibilities and thus incompetent, or (more likely) knew all along about an operation that let thousands of firearms be sold to straw buyers who were acting as cutouts for the Mexican drug cartels, in order to trace a putative “gunrunning network.” An operation that has cost at least 150 Mexican lives (1) and the lives of two US federal officers.

And thus my strong guess is that he will resign to protect President Obama, rather than be impeached and to try to head off an independent prosecutor, because I find it very hard to believe the President didn’t know, either.

LINKS: More from Moe Lane and Power Line. “El Mamito” says the Zetas buy all their weapons in the US. Given what we’re learning about Gunwalker, perhaps that should be “from the US.”

Footnotes: (1) It’s no wonder the Mexicans are talking about extradition; I’d be screaming mad, too.


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1 posted on 07/10/2011 6:04:12 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Jail that SUCKER!


2 posted on 07/10/2011 6:05:29 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: marktwain

“Almost” is a key word.


3 posted on 07/10/2011 6:06:07 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: marktwain

resignation or not, he needs to be in prison and he needs to testify against Obama too.


4 posted on 07/10/2011 6:06:28 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: marktwain
First comes resignation the incarceration.
5 posted on 07/10/2011 6:07:41 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: screaminsunshine

Holder deserves a tougher sentence that than.


6 posted on 07/10/2011 6:09:36 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: marktwain
Another look at Gunwalker and Attorney General Holder


7 posted on 07/10/2011 6:10:17 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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To: marktwain; screaminsunshine; gorush; GeronL; SandRat

It’s the suspense that’s killing me.

This sure makes it clear that O and the Gang are not going to be able to stonewall this or wait it out in the hope that it will dry up and blow away.

Now it’s Holder’s turn to decide whether or not to fall on his sword, turn rat or worst (best?) of all, try and brazen it out.

Is he as fanatical a true believer as he has so far appeared to be?


8 posted on 07/10/2011 6:14:38 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: marktwain

9 posted on 07/10/2011 6:16:26 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: screaminsunshine

Sadly, this guy will neither see resignation nor jail . . . state-run, lame-stream media will protect his ebony ass.


10 posted on 07/10/2011 6:18:52 PM PDT by Mr. Wright
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To: gorush
“Almost” is a key word.

If it wasn't before, it is now.

11 posted on 07/10/2011 6:19:19 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: sinanju

I think he is a fanatical true believer but liberals don’t have ethics


12 posted on 07/10/2011 6:19:51 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: marktwain

Holder is the fall guy; Obama is the real perp.


13 posted on 07/10/2011 6:21:32 PM PDT by Rudder (The Main Stream Media is Our Enemy---get used to it.)
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To: marktwain

They are just murdering people that the US Congress
has wanted murdered, as it has allowed a lawless,
undocumented (except by perjury and fraud) administration
to destroy America and its justice system.


14 posted on 07/10/2011 6:24:38 PM PDT by Diogenesis (Nothing surpasses the complexity of the human mind. - Leto II: Dar-es-Balat)
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To: marktwain

I’m really getting confused. I was listening to talk radio last week, don’t remember who, and it was stated that Gunwalker and Fast & Furious are two separate operations.

Gunwalker was started during Bush’s admin and closely monitored. Fast & Furious was begun shortly after Obama’s inauguration and is solely owned by this admin.

Yet I see articles all over that talk about the two as tho they’re one and the same. Can somebody straighten this out for me?


15 posted on 07/10/2011 6:26:14 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you gotta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: marktwain

“Think about this: Melson, head of the BATF, gave Cole, Holder’s chief deputy, “detailed information and documents,” after Melson had seen enough to make him sick. And instead of letting himself be set up as the fall-guy, he got his own lawyer –a former US Attorney– rather than let government lawyers “represent” him. Gee, I wonder why he’d feel that need?”


16 posted on 07/10/2011 6:27:34 PM PDT by EverOnward
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To: abigailsmybaby; All
I’m really getting confused. I was listening to talk radio last week, don’t remember who, and it was stated that Gunwalker and Fast & Furious are two separate operations.

Gunwalker is the generic term for the overall scandal. Fast and Furious and other programs are part of the scandal, but not all of it.

"Gunrunner" started under President Bush, and was essentially an intense inspection of all the Federal Firearms Licensees in the border states. It is likely that there were some straw purchasers that were arrested this way.

Gunrunner was mostly a bust, though, because there simply wasn't any "Iron River of Guns" flowing into Mexico. Gunrunner made relatively few arrests and was condemned in an audit as being ineffective.

As I recall, the average age of a gun traced from Mexico was about 14 years. This is consistent with the understanding that most of the guns going to Mexico are single items, bought from individuals by brothers or uncles, or fathers, and sent back to Mexico in backpacks or trunks to relatives for their own defense.

At least, that appears to be the case before the ATF actively encouraged straw buyers to buy large numbers of new semi-auto rifles and handguns in bulk, some of them, it appears, with U.S. government money. All that "gunwalking" occurred under the Obama administration with the "fast and furious" program, "castaway", and any other similar programs that have not yet been uncovered. We know that "gunwalking" was encouraged at a couple of gun stores in Texas, that don't fall under the jurisdiction of either "fast and furious" or "castaway".

17 posted on 07/10/2011 6:32:37 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Plummz; Bikkuri; Fantasywriter; ColdOne; ...
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Gunwalker: Holder’s resignation is almost inevitable

. . . . Check out article.

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18 posted on 07/10/2011 6:34:51 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: SandRat

“...First comes resignation the incarceration...”

And on the evening of January 19, 2013 he will be pardoned by the Kenyan usurper.

That is, unless, the usurper is not himself in prison.


19 posted on 07/10/2011 6:34:51 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (In Memphis on January 20, 2009, pump price were $1.49. We all know what happened after that.)
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To: marktwain; abigailsmybaby
Gunwalker is the generic term for the overall scandal.

I believe the mixing is intentional. Libs always blend in a major scandal by them with much lesser screwed up operations to lessen the impact. "Well, others were doing it too.", etc.

20 posted on 07/10/2011 6:37:28 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: marktwain
It’s no wonder the Mexicans are talking about extradition

Wonder how many voting Hispanics north of the border are ticked off at the regime.

21 posted on 07/10/2011 6:39:35 PM PDT by MulberryDraw ( Where's the democrat budget? What's the plan?)
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To: marktwain

Thank you! That was a big help.


22 posted on 07/10/2011 6:42:18 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you gotta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: Oatka

That’s exactly what I thought must be going on. The MSM scums are intentionally interchanging the titles to keep everybody confused.


23 posted on 07/10/2011 6:43:45 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you gotta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: sinanju

[ Is he as fanatical a true believer as he has so far appeared to be? ]

Holder is worried about staying alive..
If he rats out Barry Half-White.. suicide is his next stop..
Two bullets to the back of the head..


24 posted on 07/10/2011 6:44:31 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: abigailsmybaby

“Gunwalker was started during Bush’s admin and closely monitored. Fast & Furious was begun shortly after Obama’s inauguration and is solely owned by this admin.”

Bush started Gunrunner, not Gunwalker (aka Fast & Furious). The names understandably cause confusion.

Fast & Furious was started by the Obama administration to be part of Gunrunner which was already underway, but did not involve straw purchases up to that point.

I hope that clears up the confusion.


25 posted on 07/10/2011 6:46:22 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: MulberryDraw
Supplying assault weapons to TERRORISTS in a foreign nation is definitely an act of AGGRESSION/WAR.

Send the entire DNC (RINOS included) to Mexico to await trial!

26 posted on 07/10/2011 6:49:13 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: Okieshooter

Thank you!

I’m getting there, but, OMG, what an entangled web of a mess.


27 posted on 07/10/2011 6:49:29 PM PDT by abigailsmybaby ("To understan' the livin', you gotta commune wit' da dead." Minerva)
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To: marktwain

Obama: we’re working under the radar on gun control.

0bameo knows EVERYTHING that goes on and he had to know
about this. I wouldn’t be afraid to bet that it may have even been his idea.

IMPEACH NOW!


28 posted on 07/10/2011 6:57:54 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.. VOTE out the RATS!)
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To: NCC-1701

Let’s hope for the later as well.


29 posted on 07/10/2011 6:59:38 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: marktwain

Bookmark.


30 posted on 07/10/2011 6:59:55 PM PDT by REDWOOD99
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To: arkady_renko

You scared me. I am going to have nightmares tonight.


31 posted on 07/10/2011 7:02:18 PM PDT by Shire
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To: marktwain

I am skeptical that anything will happen to Holder, but on the other hand, it would be a relatively quiet exit for a remarkably evil and culpable man.

Quite the cast of characters in this admin, eh? It would be comical if the prompt destruction of the US wasn’t the by-product, possibly even the direct purpose.


32 posted on 07/10/2011 7:02:30 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Both sides need to put aside the partisan bickering, & work out how much free stuff I get)
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To: marktwain

No way. The dems just ignore the law.


33 posted on 07/10/2011 7:04:20 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (*It does not matter how fast you go. It is how slow you can go, and still win. ~ Juan Manuel Fangio)
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To: marktwain
Law says the driver of the getaway car is also guilty of murder if someone is killed in a bank heist. The whole damn bunch ought to be indicted for murder and don't forget Rham. Maybe this is why so many of the Obozo's underlings have left already. They are all probably culpable to some degree and realized the Obozo's house of cards was about to fall. Simple resignations should not defer the consequences of guilt.
34 posted on 07/10/2011 7:13:45 PM PDT by drypowder
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To: marktwain

Since Melson refused to be the Scapegoat, Holder may have to suck it up, but I believe the fact is that Obama is the culprit.

Holder may have to take the rap for Obama.


35 posted on 07/10/2011 7:18:43 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: marktwain
Jailbirds
36 posted on 07/10/2011 7:21:42 PM PDT by FrankR ("If you can't make them see the light, let them feel the heat." - R. Reagan)
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To: FrankR

Who says they think they have gone wrong? Thieving America WITH THE CONSENT of voters isn’t rape rape or anything.


37 posted on 07/10/2011 7:24:51 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Mr. Wright
...state-run, lame-stream media will protect his...

They already are.

They are still pumping out the Casey Anthony trial revisited smokescreen (as if that will change anything), just like the OJ trial provided cover for the COngressional investigations of Waco and Ruby Ridge.

The first network which really dives on this will be in a position to redeem themselves as journalists instead of info-tainers and propagandists for the State.

38 posted on 07/10/2011 7:25:25 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: LucyT

Adios, Steadman!


39 posted on 07/10/2011 7:29:01 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (A Movement that does not move cannot call itself a Movement.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
I wouldn’t be afraid to bet that it may have even been his idea.

Me too.After all, he told the Brady people they were working on gun control "under the radar"

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40 posted on 07/10/2011 7:30:25 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: MulberryDraw

“Wonder how many voting Hispanics north of the border are ticked off at the regime.”

That’s a good question. I live in Chicago, which has the second largest hispanic population in the US. Today, I was at the store, and there was a front page splash in the Spanish language newspaper, with pictures of all sorts of guns, and while I don’t know much Spanish, the words “Fast & Furious” were easy to pick out.

The MSM may be burying this way back in the papers, but it’s front page news in the Latino papers!


41 posted on 07/10/2011 7:33:56 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Smokin' Joe

Sorry Joe. Nobody is going to pick this up unless Congress brings charges of some kind. Then it will be called racism if they concentrate on Holder.


42 posted on 07/10/2011 7:33:56 PM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: abigailsmybaby

Maybe this will help you to keep “gunrunner” and “gunwalker” separate:

Gunrunner, started under the Bush administration. What do you think of when you hear the term “gunrunner?” Myself, I think of someone that gets guns, in quantity, and gets them to someone that shouldn’t have them. The Gunrunner program was supposed to determine who these folks were by letting them make the purchase, and then the gunrunners would be arrested. It was successful in that they had over 1,200 arrests.

Fast and Furious: The Obama administration made modifications to the Gunrunner operation and relabeled the morphed operation as “Fast and Furious.”

Gunwalker: I heard on TV, and I wish I could remember who was being interviewed at the time, but I can’t. It was someone familiar with the ATF, maybe a former employee? Anyway, he said that when they are tracking a gun and lose track of it, the gun is said to be “walking.” Hence, “Gunwalker” is a nickname that was applied, not by the ATF, but by outsiders when this scandal broke. It is really more a a description of what was happening to the guns under “Fast and Furious,” not the official name of any law enforcement program.

The new operation, “Fast and Furious,” allowed the guns to actually walk — ON PURPOSE. It is ridiculous to believe that would help to find and stop the drug cartels. We can’t track guns after they cross the border and the guns won’t turn up unless they happened to be dropped and left at the scene of a crime and people are already dead, and the thugs that made it out alive are long gone.


43 posted on 07/10/2011 7:34:20 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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To: LucyT
Gunwalker: Holder’s resignation is almost inevitable

We'll see - dems can take a long time getting off the stage...

44 posted on 07/10/2011 7:35:58 PM PDT by GOPJ (Honk if I'm paying for your car, your mortgage, and your big, fat Greek bailout - mewzilla)
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To: arkady_renko

What an evil witch.


45 posted on 07/10/2011 7:37:45 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (Obama is no Hitler; Hitler got the Olympics)
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To: Mr. Wright

“ebony ass”

Sounds like a good name for a rapper.


46 posted on 07/10/2011 7:40:53 PM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: screaminsunshine

Jail that SUCKER!


Really! If I ran a huge gun operation to arm the cartels in Mexico and their drug gangs in the inner city, would they let me off if I resigned from my job?

We are a sick and twisted Nation.


47 posted on 07/10/2011 7:41:40 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: marktwain

No way will Holder resign.

And Obama will back him all the way.

These people have no humility or sense of right and wrong.

They have a value system foreign to American culture and are not concerned about rules, laws, ethics, morality or the US constitution.


48 posted on 07/10/2011 7:44:46 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The more effeminate & debauched the people, the more they are fitted for a tyrannical government.)
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To: arkady_renko

If Congress fails to bring charges, they will be accessories after the fact, imho.


49 posted on 07/10/2011 7:46:24 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: marktwain

When the full details of all of this are exposed (or as many as we are allowed to hear), this makes it CLEAR that we should all be well-armed so that we can defend ourselves.

Because of what this administration has done in putting weapons in the hands of those that wouldn’t hesitate to do us harm, and not knowing where the heck these guns are now, we are in more danger in our everyday lives than we have ever been before. Their actions have made the case even stronger for safeguarding the second amendment. Because of their scheme, the average citizen has a much greater need to protect themselves from these thugs that the Obama administration has armed. It also makes the case, due to their gross negligence, that it is even more imperative that we have secure borders.

If they are going to put us in danger, we need a way to protect ourselves. Do you feel safer since Obama was elected? I sure don’t.


50 posted on 07/10/2011 7:46:30 PM PDT by RedWhiteBlue
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