Posted on 07/12/2011 11:54:11 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
What the dim bulbs do in Washington on this matter will not affect me. I have a lifetime supply of Thomas Alva Edison’s incandescent bulbs(in all wattages) in my cabinet. In fact, my supply will probably out last me.I guess the great-grand kids can use them for target practice if any guns are still allowed.
I agree, I have had them break while trying to screw them into the socket.
It would seem, from the strategy employed, that moron repubs don't get it either...
Might as well call the EPA hazmat cleanup team before you leave the store.
Your generalized comment that compact fluorescent lights “don't last for crap” is simply false. It's wrong. It's incorrect. It makes the rest of us look bad by association. You're in a hole. Stop digging.
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They don't last worth a crap for me either. So, I guess that makes me dishonest too.
I continue to stock up, esp. with 100-watt bulbs. Heck, at some point I’ll have a lifetime supply—being an old guy.
“I’ll have to try one when I’m through with my 20 year supply of incandescents.”
I have about 1500 of them. Got some of them delivered on pallets (they were a good price). As long as they don’t leak, I’m good for decades...as well as my kids.
Not surprising since the GOP is lead by folks who are more infatuated with the prestige ,perks & social status of elected office than doing / fighting for what is right for the nation.
Is noone on this forum capable of thinking???
There’s a world of difference between “they don’t work” and “they don’t work for me”.
Think for a moment.
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As per your comments, I would say your the one who can't think.
It is perfectly obvious to everyone that he/she was talking about their own experience with these bulbs.
This is an opinion forum. Therefore, some people will actually express an opinion.
If you have a different opinion... state it.
That doesn't make either one of you a liar, whether someone bothers to put a "as per my experience" disclaimer or not.
Think for a moment.
Nah. For some reason I like the color better than incandescent bulbs. I am shocked at times with respect to government priorities. The country is imploding and all they want to do is smack people around over light bulbs.
This isn’t physics, this is finance.
The law of finances is:
Caveat emptor.
Nonsense. His initial comment was:
"They don’t last for crap!
And they least ever less in ceiling fans!.................
And at the prices they cost the savings on utilities is eaten up to nothing!..................
This is a blanket assertion, completely unqualified or unlimited. As such, it is false. As a qualified statement of his own experience, it is probably true (I choose to believe him, as regards his own experience).
This is an opinion forum. Therefore, some people will actually express an opinion.
If you have a different opinion... state it.
He did not state an opinion. He made a factual assertion (that is, an assertion that is subject to being tested and proven true or false). His general, unqualified assertion of fact, his statement turns out to be false. Many people (self included) have experiences contrary to his.
The ""as per my experience" disclaimer " is of enormous importance. It distinguishes between a single data point and a general principle.
Think for a moment.
I seem to be one of the few folk doing that around here.
This isn’t physics, this is finance.
Nonsense. It is both.
The law of finances is: Caveat emptor.
I agree. The devices in question clearly demonstrate a much higher than advertised failure rate under some environmental conditions. This failure rate is a matter of physics and engineering. This is a matter of which potential buyers should be aware.
To advertise these devices as fully functional according to specification, in all reasonably expected environmental conditions (as the manufacturers and politicians do) is false and misleading.
To condemn them as unqualified expensive failures in all reasonably expected environmental conditions (as RB initially did) is false and misleading.
End of discussion, on my part at least. If adults can't or won't understand the fallacy of extrapolating from their own singular individual experience to general principle, there's very little I can do to help them. This is a lesson that should have been learned in childhood.
This failure rate is a matter of CHEAP PARTS, CHEAP LABOR, AND NO QUALITY CONTROL. These bulbs could be made more rugged and longer lasting, but there is no incentive on the part of the manufacturer to do so. A bulb that needs to be replaced half as often has half the sales on repeat orders. As a tire engineer (1970's) once told me, "We could make tires that last 200k miles, fairly easily, but why would we want to?"......... It's all about money and getting it while the getting's good...........
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