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Automakers Give Flywheels a Spin
MIT Technology Review ^ | Wednesday, July 13, 2011 | By Kevin Bullis

Posted on 07/13/2011 12:44:52 PM PDT by Red Badger

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Flying by:A computer model of Volvo's flywheel, with an outer section cut away. Credit: Volvo

1 posted on 07/13/2011 12:44:58 PM PDT by Red Badger
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To: sully777; vigl; Cagey; Abathar; A. Patriot; B Knotts; getsoutalive; muleskinner; sausageseller; ...

Automobile Tech Ping!.............


2 posted on 07/13/2011 12:46:26 PM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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To: Red Badger
Popular Science : August 1970
3 posted on 07/13/2011 12:55:04 PM PDT by Cboldt
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And will the torque make it easy to turn right but hard to turn left?


4 posted on 07/13/2011 12:56:01 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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Behold! All thing old are new again!................


5 posted on 07/13/2011 12:58:58 PM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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Not If it’s horizontal............


6 posted on 07/13/2011 12:59:55 PM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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7 posted on 07/13/2011 1:00:55 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik ("The trouble with internet quotations is you don't know if they are true"-Abraham Lincoln.)
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To: Red Badger
To reduce friction, they've sealed the flywheels inside a vacuum chamber.

Seems like for production automobiles, there would be a bigger problem with soft Chinese bearings than with drag from the *air*.

8 posted on 07/13/2011 1:03:25 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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Flywheels are great...as long as you don't want to turn and if you can overcome the gyroscopic action, it's great.

I recall talk of this back in the 90s for Tanks. One of the issues was that when the tank is moving, It can't turn or it could potentially flip over. That's a lot of energy.


9 posted on 07/13/2011 1:04:37 PM PDT by Malsua
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Check this out: Formula 1 ‘Flybrid’ racing engine...........

http://www.flybridsystems.com/F1System.html


10 posted on 07/13/2011 1:08:34 PM PDT by Red Badger (PEAS in our time? Obama cries PEAS! PEAS! when there is no PEAS!..........................)
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Ah...the crux of the problem!!!! Awful hard to create momentum without mass - therefore weight...


11 posted on 07/13/2011 1:11:51 PM PDT by Gaffer
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12 posted on 07/13/2011 1:15:04 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.)
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I wonder if a “normally sealed unit” - as “sealed” as most ordinary “sealed” units are in cars today, filled with some very slippery but dense liquid (to reduce the flywheel’s friction) and with the flywheel suspended in it (suspended in the liquid), would be better (”almost” as efficient and more economical) than a pure vacuum.

For heat (the sealed-in-fluid may obtain heat in the operation of the flywheel), engineer the casing of the unit to “exchange” the heat out of the unit in some way, either simply, because it - the casing is exposed to air somehow, or some more esoteric solution.


13 posted on 07/13/2011 1:23:34 PM PDT by Wuli
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Neat packaging - and it reminds me why F1 cars cost almost as much as fighter jets. If this technology enters the passenger car market, it'll be at the "exotic" end.

It might even come equipped with a backup pull-starter:


14 posted on 07/13/2011 1:26:13 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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Those things will act like C4 in an accident.
15 posted on 07/13/2011 1:30:53 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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Or come sailing through the passenger compartment and then God knows where in a major collision.

Someone will be dead, and Volvo will just say "Whoops".

16 posted on 07/13/2011 1:33:42 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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...but your car will flip on it’s driving fast over a hill...jk.


17 posted on 07/13/2011 1:36:27 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: Red Badger
utomakers face the problem of how to maintain the vacuum, since the seals that connect the flywheel to a transmission aren't perfect.

Simple, make the flywheel essentially the inner part of an electric generator. Add or bleed energy using electromagnets, not a mechanical transmission.

18 posted on 07/13/2011 1:37:01 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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Not If it’s horizontal............

LOL - So just be careful going over hilltops eh?

19 posted on 07/13/2011 1:37:58 PM PDT by SeeSharp
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SIDE...but your car will flip on it’s SIDE driving fast over a hill...jk.

DOH


20 posted on 07/13/2011 1:38:37 PM PDT by Voter62vb
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