Homeless in Hawaii Baffle Liberals in Government

Honolulu Star Advertiser ^ | 07/15/2011 | Leila Fujimori

[Lornik]

City Transportation Services Director Wayne Yoshi­oka says the city is not setting a precedent by moving a Kapiolani bus stop because of complaints about a homeless woman who had taken up residence at the shelter near Keeaumoku Street.

The city received complaints from bus riders who didn't like having to wait for the bus near the homeless woman, who has hygiene issues.

Tessie Cadelina, 66, who catches the bus daily to and from work, said Thursday, "I no like sit down if the lady stay there. The smell."

[Stonewall Jackson]

About two years ago, there was a homeless guy here in E-Town with some mental issues who set fire to a historic log cabin that Thomas Lincoln had helped build, almost gutting it. He was released from jail a few months later after being ruled incompetent to stand trial. Two days later, he attacked a woman in Freeman Lake Park and attempted to rape her right in front of her two young children. Fortunately there were some joggers nearby who came to her rescue.

The guy ended up pleading to the attempted rape charges and got 7-10. If they'd locked him up after he burned down the cabin, this wouldn't have happened.

[muawiyah]

Yes, Rudy Giuliani ~ he did it. I remember a trip up there at the time he was mayor ~ all those overhanging marquees hanging out over the sidewalks WERE BEING CLEANED ~ the mountains of garbage and debris that'd fall on them through the years were being taken away.

And that was right after being nearly shocked out of my seat when we went through the TUNNEL and found out those were not black tiles!

Yes, people forget.

[Cheetahcat]

Move her to 1600 Pennsylvania Ave,The Smell would be no problem there and the Obamas have made that into a crack Den.

[donhunt]

Is this woman your mother-in-law or something?

[oldbrowser]

But they can’t be institutionalized unless they’re a danger to themselves or others.

One of my friends is a doctor's nurse and she told me that last week her doctor was called in to remove several paper clips and a plastic spoon from the stomach of a homeless man. this is the third time this guy has swallowed metal objects. He does not have insurance and she said he is probably doing it to obtain the pain medication, or maybe he is just crazy.

[hosepipe]

“THE SMELL” makes the mind wander in places it don’t want to go...

[Gen.Blather]

“In practice, this statement becomes “but they can’t be institutionalized until they kill at least one person.””
About 25 years ago there was a homeless man in Tampa named Billy Ferry. His family had begged civic authorities to get him help. He was violent and abusive. He’d committed numerous crimes but kept getting out. One day he got a gallon bucket, filled it with gasoline and walked into a crowded supermarket. He slung the gas over the waiting queues and lit it. If I recall about 20 people eventually died of their burns and I don’t know how many were scarred. Finally, they put Billy away.

His family had significant documentation showing he should have been committed long before he killed so many people and the family had kept track of the number of visits they’d made to various agencies seeking help. There were two issues; the liberal “it’s not the homeless’ fault” and the fact that it costs money to put people into the hospital systems.

[Steely Tom]

There were two issues; the liberal “it’s not the homeless’ fault” and the fact that it costs money to put people into the hospital systems.

Oh, it's worse than that. Many liberals believe that the mayhem these people cause is deserved by society. They actually enjoy seeing the pain and destruction that insane homeless people inflict on the innocent.

[Cvengr]

Hawaii is one of the few places in the US where being homeless isn’t all that tragic.

There is potable water and showers at all the beaches; mango trees are fairly plentiful; a considerable amount of tourism where some offering of manual labor is marginably compensated, and the moderate tropical climate allows year-round living outdoors. No worries about freezing to death or suffering from heat exhaustion.

With a little imagination, fishing isn’t that infeasible from nearby the shores.

On the other hand, if you are homeless and jobless in Hawaii, it’s alot more costly to make it out of the area without becoming a stowaway.

If the woman has a problem with hygiene, it isn’t due to lack or nonavailability of facilities. Every beach has public showers, accessible even at night, and the ocean swim in waste deep waters is also very accessible, then a rinse in the shower, even wearing clothes.

[sheana]

Well when I was a kid there were homeless, they were called hobos or bums. We lived by a large field that train tracks ran through. They used to camp out in the field at night. Our parents told us ‘stay away’ but when they were not looking we would go out there. They were all very nice to us and would even offer us beans from their pot.
Couldn’t do that today.

[Gen.Blather]

“Oh, it’s worse than that. Many liberals believe that the mayhem these people cause is deserved by society. They actually enjoy seeing the pain and destruction that insane homeless people inflict on the innocent.”

A liberal group operates a homeless shelter in the middle of the capital city; three blocks from the capital building. This shelter brings the homeless like a bird feeder brings birds. It’s only open at night, so during the day the homeless go in search of drugs, money, food and whatever they can steal. I’d venture to say 70-80% of the downtown crime is caused by the homeless. Several times the city has offered to supply a huge, modern building, acreage, amenities and numerous incentives to move the shelter to a rural area. The shelter owners have said, “We want it downtown where the homeless are in everybody’s faces every day. We want the homeless problem solved once and for all.”

First, the people behind this live mostly in gated communities. Second, the homeless problem is not something that can be solved. They’re homeless because they (mostly) have severe mental issues; drug and alcohol abuse being top symptoms. Personally, if I were the prosecutor, I’d be looking for ways to make the people running the shelter accessories to the crimes they’re enabling. But, the prosecutor who has been in office over 40 years is a liberal.

[Rocky]

Why are you picking on Atlanta? This person could have been educated almost anywhere in the U.S. Besides, this took place in Hawaii.

[doorgunner69]

Atlanta public school education victim.

No, Hawaiian semi-pidgin. Nothing to do with ebonics.

[ansel12]

When I was a kid in the ‘60’s there were no homeless. You could go anywhere downtown and not be bothered. Then, the ACLU sued during the Carter administration and forced all people being held in mental institutions without their consent to be released; instant homeless problem.

The law the ACLU was using was a John F. Kennedy law emptying the mental institutions.

[ansel12]

LOL, good one.

[Lumper20]

Thanks for the laugh.

[Conservaliberty]

Good heavens, where do you live????
They relieve themselves in the corners? Does the library not have bathrooms?
I don’t understand.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

LOL. Sounds more like “no tickee, no laundry”

[ProtectOurFreedom]

I had a boss many years ago who grew up in St. Louis. He said in the late 40s and 50 the police beat patrols would whack the bums sleeping in doorways across the soles of their feet with nightsticks to keep them moving and head for the “outskirts.” That tended to solve the problem, too. Civil society was MUCH more civil in that era. Now the public square in many parts of the nation is a true cesspool.