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Rumsfeld had role in Perry meeting
Politico ^ | July 20, 2011 | Ben Smith

Posted on 07/20/2011 5:47:03 PM PDT by Clairity

Former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld helped organize Rick Perry's foreign policy and national security briefing in Austin last Wednesday, Rumsfeld's staff confirmed today.

Perry's aides have been tight-lipped about the gathering, which National Review reported included former Rumsfeld aides Doug Feith, Daniel Fata, and William Luti, as well as the magazine's Andrew McCarthy and others.

He (Rumsfeld) is watching the current field with interest and is particularly interested in the candidates' positions on foreign and national security policy and their prospects in winning in November 2012.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; perry; rickperry; rumsfeld
Maybe Rumsfeld can be SecDef again. Wouldn't that make the liberals' heads explode!
1 posted on 07/20/2011 5:47:07 PM PDT by Clairity
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To: Clairity
Just as Ubama is Carter II, Perry would by Dubya II.

Been there.

Done that.

2 posted on 07/20/2011 5:48:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This would be Mister No More Troops, correct?


3 posted on 07/20/2011 5:50:05 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: Clairity

That’s the list of peope I want to see prepping the next president. Cool


4 posted on 07/20/2011 5:56:17 PM PDT by ilgipper (political rhetoric is no substitute for competence (Thomas Sowell))
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To: Clairity

That’s the list of people I want to see prepping the next president. Cool


5 posted on 07/20/2011 5:56:53 PM PDT by ilgipper (political rhetoric is no substitute for competence (Thomas Sowell))
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To: Clairity

The NeoCons are making their move on Perry.


6 posted on 07/20/2011 5:57:37 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Clairity

Palin/Perry?


7 posted on 07/20/2011 5:57:58 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: Clairity

I say screw the foreign policy. Shut off the foreign aid. We have enough problems here in the USA to keep us occupied for a long long time. All the foreign policy experts so far have been able to muck up the world affairs to the point of being on the brink of Armageddon. We know who our friends are. Screw the rest. JMHO


8 posted on 07/20/2011 6:02:41 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Ben Ficklin

After seeing this same pitch twice, I’d have to be an idiot to swing at it again.


9 posted on 07/20/2011 6:05:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: gov_bean_ counter
This would be Mister No More Troops, correct?

Donald Rumsfeld is this generation's Robert McNamara. Both were arrogant know-it-alls who wasted thousands of lives.

From the Washington Post Sept 9, 2006 (yeah, I know it's leftist paper):

"Long before the United States invaded Iraq in 2003, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld forbade military strategists to develop plans for securing a postwar Iraq, the retiring commander of the Army Transportation Corps said.

Brig. Gen. Mark E. Scheid told the Newport News Daily Press in an interview published yesterday that Rumsfeld had said "he would fire the next person" who talked about the need for a postwar plan.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/08/AR2006090801797.html

10 posted on 07/20/2011 6:05:44 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Clairity

Probably all arranged by Rove.


11 posted on 07/20/2011 6:09:56 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Leaning Right
The man's do it on the cheap did cause the death of a lot of americans.
12 posted on 07/20/2011 6:11:53 PM PDT by org.whodat
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To: Clairity

Rumsfeld is one of my most favorite....way to go Perry...excellent choice.


13 posted on 07/20/2011 6:12:17 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 "Woe unto those who say they are Judah and are not, but are of the synaGOGue of Satan.")
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To: cripplecreek

Hard curve or slider. They are hard to lay off of.


14 posted on 07/20/2011 6:12:42 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2010/mar/19/karl-rove/karl-rove-says-he-and-consultant-david-weeks-persu/

Karl Rove says he and consultant David Weeks persuaded Rick Perry to switch parties and run for state agriculture commissioner

Texas Gov. Rick Perry draws mention in GOP consultant Karl Rove’s autobiography with attention
focused on Perry’s win for lieutenant governor in 1998 and Rove’s role in his pivotal earlier
switch from the Democratic to Republican party while he was a third-term member of the Texas House.

Rove writes: “Rick Perry had planned to retire from the legislature until his best friend,
David Weeks, and I talked him into switching parties and running for the GOP nomination for
agriculture commissioner.” His book, “Courage and Consequence, My Life as a Conservative
in the Fight,” was published March 9.


15 posted on 07/20/2011 6:14:24 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Ben Ficklin

Your right, the NeoCons want a establishment tolerated candidate, one they believe the can work with. I like Perry, but I like him in Texas.


16 posted on 07/20/2011 6:21:19 PM PDT by MCF
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To: Clairity

Rummy always struck me as the independent thinker in the Bush camp. I’m not bothered by him helping Perry. Any governor is going to need to beef up their foreign policy/national defense cred and Rummy is an excellent resource to do that with. Would you rather it was Henry Kissinger?


17 posted on 07/20/2011 6:34:39 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Obama: The Dr. Kevorkian of the American economy.)
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To: OrangeHoof

I am a big Rumsfeld fan.


18 posted on 07/20/2011 6:48:07 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Don Corleone

Perry is strong on low taxes, few regulations and job creation, with a RECORD, not just words.


19 posted on 07/20/2011 6:48:58 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: Clairity

Me too.


20 posted on 07/20/2011 6:53:38 PM PDT by JmyBryan
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To: Clairity
Rumsfeld, Doug Feith, Daniel Fata, William Luti, Andy McCarthy.

That's a first-class group of serious and experienced men. Perry is wise to seek their counsel, it demonstrates discipline and maturity, desired traits in a leader.

It would be nice if we knew whether or not any other potential or actual Republican candidate has held such a meeting.

21 posted on 07/20/2011 6:57:56 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Rummy’s plan to topple the Taliban with 200 Special Forces TOPPLES THE TALIBAN IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS!!!! Girly men HATE hi, because of this !!!! GO RICK GO!!!


22 posted on 07/20/2011 6:58:22 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Rummy’s plan to topple the Taliban with 200 Special Forces TOPPLES THE TALIBAN IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS!!!! Girly men HATE hi, because of this !!!! GO RICK GO!!!


23 posted on 07/20/2011 6:58:22 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Leaning Right

Sdky, you have no idea if what you are talking about.


24 posted on 07/20/2011 6:59:26 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: smoothsailing
It would be nice if we knew whether or not any other potential or actual Republican candidate has held such a meeting.

______________________________________

I think the Trademark tweeted one of those guys once.

25 posted on 07/20/2011 7:03:30 PM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Clairity

“included former Rumsfeld aides Doug Feith...”

Uh oh. Who are we invading in 2013? I guess Syria or Iran.

Perry needs to get with a real conservative like Pat Buchanan ASAP on foreign policy, not these clowns. They had their time.


26 posted on 07/20/2011 7:04:29 PM PDT by crusader71
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To: wtc911

HA!


27 posted on 07/20/2011 7:07:33 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Clairity
I am a big Rumsfeld fan.


Me too.  He's a man's man.  But one of the reasons I like him is because of the usual suspects who despise him.

 

28 posted on 07/20/2011 7:23:28 PM PDT by MNnice (Showing fresh signs of liberalitis, the strain of the orbital muscles due to excessive eye rolling)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
This would be Mr. No More Tokyo Rove.

If you want another RINO hand-picked by the GOP ruling class and the MSM, that's your choice.

But when the result is the same, will you realize how stupid you are this time?

I will never forgive Bush for that pharmaceutical program he gave as a gift to the drug companies.

It ain't free enterprise when the government and corporations are in bed together.

29 posted on 07/20/2011 7:31:54 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." - Bertrand de Jouvenel des Ursins)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Perry is highly capable. Obama is NOT! Big Difference


30 posted on 07/20/2011 8:06:36 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Congress approved the plan submitted by President Bush. The medication plan premiums are paid by the Seniors, who subscribed to those plans. The prescription plans have come in under budget. However, Obama is trying to dismantle them.


31 posted on 07/20/2011 8:11:13 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: Clairity

Oy.


32 posted on 07/20/2011 9:40:15 PM PDT by Huck
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To: org.whodat
Probably all arranged by Rove.

Doubt it, Rove helping Perry is like Palin helping Romney, ain't to dark likely.

33 posted on 07/20/2011 10:10:12 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: truthfreedom

So what ? Only a couple of years ago, Karl Rove tried to make Sarah Palin the vice president of the United States, I don’t think the 2 of them are sending each other christmas cards this year, though.


34 posted on 07/20/2011 10:11:32 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

link to that Rove / Palin thing?


35 posted on 07/20/2011 10:17:37 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
link to that Rove / Palin thing?

Are you serious ?

Karl Rove worked for John McCain, he worked for the McCain/Palin ticket, it was his job (and he was paid well, and he failed).

Now does he like Palin ? lol, does a man like getting bitten by a dog ? Rove was opposed to Palin being on the ticket (he wanted Romney), but once she was picked, he worked to get his ticket elected. If you seriously want to read about his role, his documented role, in working for McCain (and later McCain/Palin), feel free to buy the book, "Game Change" or just google McCain and Rove.

36 posted on 07/20/2011 10:25:49 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

Right, do you have links to what you’re typing?


37 posted on 07/20/2011 10:26:47 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
http://www.amazon.com/Game-Change-Clintons-McCain-Lifetime/dp/B0058M62SE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1311226873&sr=8-1

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=8B58A658-3048-5C12-006F9CBBFFC54DE3

I can also provide links documenting that George Washington, was in fact, the first president of the united states, and also, provide proof that Dick Cheney, did in fact, attempt, to get Bush elected to a 2nd term, if you want, I can also provide proof that Karl Rove, did, in fact, plot, to get Bush and Cheney into the white house, and then did this again, in 2004 (inspite of the fact, that Rove didn't want Cheney in the first place).

38 posted on 07/20/2011 11:04:24 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

Karl Rove, the president’s top political hand since his Texas days, recently gave money to McCain and soon after had a private conversation with the senator. A top McCain adviser said both Mehlman and Rove are now informally advising the campaign. Rove refused to detail his conversation with McCain.

So, he gave money to the campaign, and talked to McCain.

He was not officially part of the campaign.

That’s not a Karl Rove Campaign.

And because it wasn’t a Karl Rove Campaign, Palin was not a Rove Candidate. Like Perry was and always will be.


39 posted on 07/20/2011 11:41:10 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: Sonny M

“Karl Rove worked for John McCain, he worked for the McCain/Palin ticket, it was his job (and he was paid well,”

Prove that statement. That he was “paid well”.

Karl Rove actually gave money to McCain. And one private meeting with McCain is not “paid well”.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, but you haven’t come close to proving that Karl Rove was “paid well” by McCain / Palin.


40 posted on 07/20/2011 11:45:23 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
Karl Rove has never disclosed how much he was paid by the McCain campaign.

Also, McCains campaign stated that Rove worked for them (Game change, and also the article).

How much Rove was paid, is disputed. He also worked as a so-called informal advisor to Senator Hutchinson (who ran against Perry in the recent Texas Governors primary).....

I'll concede that, since I can't prove he was paid well to try and make Palin the Vice President of the United States, but its pretty clear, he never the less worked for that campaign, and his protege Steve Schmidt (Karl Rove HAS referred to him repeatedly, in his book, and in the NY Times, he is Roves guy).

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/07/us/politics/07schmidt.html?_r=1

McCain/Palin was a Rove campaign, just as much as Hutchinson was. How much he was paid, we'll never know (though I doubt he worked for free, but hey, anyone is free to believe that).

41 posted on 07/21/2011 12:10:28 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: truthfreedom

By the way, do you consider Dick Thornburgh to be a Rove guy, and someone who will always be a Rove guy ?


42 posted on 07/21/2011 12:12:54 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Clairity

It’s odd that I haven’t read about Sarah Palin’s coaches on foreign affairs.


43 posted on 07/21/2011 12:16:53 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIAing)
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To: Clairity

It’s odd that I haven’t read about Sarah Palin’s coaches on foreign affairs.


44 posted on 07/21/2011 12:16:56 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org (I've got a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.) (RIAing)
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To: truthfreedom
I don't why the damn link didn't post earlier, but here it is....

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/us/politics/03manage.html?ex=1372824000&en=e4df6854417b9483&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

It should have been attached to the one that mentioned Steve Schmidt....Sorry that it looked weird the way it cut out.

45 posted on 07/21/2011 12:27:30 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: hocndoc
It’s odd that I haven’t read about Sarah Palin’s coaches on foreign affairs.

Crap, I just read that she had actually hired one, and that was a couple of months ago, and it was on here, but I have no idea where that article is going to be.

46 posted on 07/21/2011 12:31:55 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I know...it’s HuffPo...but worth the read.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/victoria-m-defrancesco-soto/latino-love-bush-v-perry_b_874631.html

There is no love lost between Bush and Perry.


47 posted on 07/21/2011 1:17:28 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (Age, skill, wisdom, and a little treachery will always overcome youth and arrogance!)
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To: Leaning Right
Donald Rumsfeld is this generation's Robert McNamara.

I would call it a three way tie with Gates thrown in. We definitely do not need a third Rummy Sec of Defense tenure. I doubt one in one hundred remember his first tenure. The tenure under Gerald Ford which was the beginning of what they call the Hollow Carter Military.

48 posted on 07/21/2011 2:09:25 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Clairity

Rumsfeld was W’s problem.

You are only as good as your advisers.


49 posted on 07/21/2011 3:50:51 AM PDT by hadaclueonce ("Endeavor to persevere.")
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