Posted on 07/22/2011 1:14:25 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
Among the pressures facing police officiers working the streets of America is the rising number of people legally carrying concealed guns. But when one such licensee was pulled over in Canton, Ohio, an officer threatened to shoot him on the spot. Here's the chilling video.
The arrest took place in early June, but the video only came to light today from a group called Ohioans for Concealed Carry. They had been working on behalf of the driver of the Pontiac Grand Prix, known so far only as William, who was arrested and charged in the stop.
As the 17-minute dashcam video shows, the two Canton police officers see the car pulled over in a neighborhood and detain a male passenger and a woman standing outside, whom the officers quickly identify as a prostitute. After telling the driver to stay put, they detain the male passenger and search the back of the car for a few minutes.
Only after that search does Officer Daniel Harless start questioning William, some seven minutes into the video — who then admits, when he can get a word in, that he has a concealed weapon, and tries to show Harless his permit. When he discovers William's gun in his belt, Harless instead becomes enraged: "You are supposed to say that right off the goddamned bat!"
Right now, the shit that you just pulled, I could blast you right in the mouth...I am so close to caving in you're goddamn head...you're just a stupid human being...People like you don't deserve to move throughout public. Stupid idiot."
After searching the car, getting worked up with his partner, and hearing from police dispatch that William does indeed have a legal permit to carry a concealed weapon, Harless comes back to the cruiser where William has been detained:
I swear to God man this little bull crap you just pulled right now has got me so hot. You know what I should have done? I'll tell you what I should have done. As soon as I saw your gun, I should have taken two steps back, pulled my Glock 40 and just put ten bullets in your ass and let you drop. And I wouldn'tve lost any sleep. And he would have been a nice witness as I executed you because you're stupid.
William was charged with two misdemeanor counts; one for stopping in the roadway, and another for failing to inform officers of his weapons.
After the video surfaced, the Canton police announced that Harless had been put on indefinite suspension last month, and the case forwarded to Internal Affairs. Ohio gun activists are raising money for William's defense. And the rest of us get to hope the next misunderstanding ends more amicably, rather than less.
Grim LOL
“I certainly can’t excuse the officer’s conduct, but for background purposes, did something happen in either Ohio or the officer’s personal life that had him so on edge?”
Small penis?
We used to be required to inform police without being asked,if stopped, but no longer ,here in Texas,anyway. Only if they ask, now
Dogs and cops do not mix.
later
No doubt the cop over reacted with his statments and attitude towards the CCW permit holder. That said, the guy with the CCW permit was indeed stupid to have waited sooooooo long to advise the LEO. Neither were innocent in this incident but, I am siding with the officer on this one, except for his language and attitude.
Most often, (I DID NOT SAY ALL THE TIME) the people the LEO’s have to deal with on the streets are up to no good. They (LEO’s) deal with the dregs of society more than the good guys and if you saw what they are up agains’t from day to day, you might think different of the LEO’s who so often are condemed here on FR. Yea, I know there are bad LEO’s out there but most of them are the good guys.
My primary problem is why you chose, in a hotbutton thread about guns, to randomly start an argument with the 99% of FReepers who are Christian?
My issue is your percpetion of raondomness. Not only thatg, but that such trivial issue is PRIMAY in your mind.
You are a fool as far as I’m concerned.
“I understand in VA they already know from your plate so by the time he comes to the window there is no need to tell them what they already know.”
Yeah, it’s tied to your plates but screwups occur. I just hand them my permit with my license so there is no question. No muss, no fuss, and VA cops are generally used to dealing with permitholders. Plus we have VCDL for those unfortunate “misunderstandings.”
I spit AT you, UPON you, and vomit to YOU bearing chunks.
How can you believe that starting an argument about the worldview of 99% of people on this website is “trivial”?
What arguement was begat by whom?
Why don’t you do a 360 headspin and croak “your mother sews socks that smell” while you’re at it?
LOL That was well said. Next time, don't hold back. Tell him how you really feel.
In this situation, had it been me, considering the rant the cop immediately goes into, I’d not be wanting to keep yelling “I HAVE A CCW PERMIT!” out my window.
The cop was volatile from the get-go and I seriously doubt somebody -insisting- on informing him of a permit by “interrupting him” would have made him any calmer.
I can’t see how the driver could’ve avoided ‘damned if you; damned if you don’t”.
Sometimes my support dog rides with me.
He is -supposed- to protect me from strangers.
Will a cop shoot him if he barks as the guy approaches my vehicle?
This world is going horribly wrong when law abiding citizens *have* to fear the LEO.
The citizen was obeying the commands. He had no opportunity to inform (Without obviously putting his life in further jeopardy)
The cop knew the “tape” was running. He had done this before and got away with it. I believe his behavior was implicitly encouraged or at the very least, winked at by his command.
There’s always been a few cops like this. What makes it news is video...
Not just “kill”; *execute*.
Ten bullets.
Drop him.
Nice, huh?
LOL.
I’m a fool.
Starting pay in Cleveland is $48k. Chicago starts at $43k and jumps to $61k the second year.
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