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China bullet train derails, 11 killed
MSNBC ^ | 07/23/2011 | msnbc.com news services

Posted on 07/23/2011 11:41:14 AM PDT by Olog-hai

SHANGHAI — At least 11 people have died after two high-speed trains crashed into each other in China's eastern province of Zhejiang on Saturday causing two carriages to fall off a bridge, state news agency Xinhua reported. Another 89 people have been sent to hospital, it added. Each carriage could carry about 100 people, Xinhua said.

The accident occurred after the first train was hit by lightning and lost power, and was then rear-ended by another bullet train, Xinhua added, citing provincial television. Pictures on state television's main news channel showed one carriage on the ground under the bridge, with another hanging above it.

The government has spent billions of dollars boosting the railway network of the world's most populous country and has said it plans to spend $120 billion a year, over several years, on railway construction. But the vast network has been hit by a series of scandals and safety incidents over the past few months. Three railway officials have been probed for corruption so far this year, according to local media reports. In February, Liu Zhijun was sacked as railways minister for "serious disciplinary violations." He had spearheaded the investment drive into the rail sector over the last decade. …

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: highspeedrail; highspeedtrains
I'm not buying the lightning-strike excuse. Lightning would hit the electrification instead of the train, and it would knock out power for at least 20 miles, never mind the signaling system putting the brakes on the train behind. Are they using semaphores on those high-speed lines??
1 posted on 07/23/2011 11:41:18 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Silly guy ~ they are using the clock on the wall.

The Chinese bullet trains, just like ol Casey Jones when he faced ol' number 9 on the same line!

Ceptin' Casey did it with a pocket watch ~

That's a Leadbelly song.

2 posted on 07/23/2011 11:46:23 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Olog-hai
At least 11 people have died after two high-speed trains crashed into each other in China's eastern province of Zhejiang on Saturday

Wow, all the train passengers were killed / S

3 posted on 07/23/2011 11:56:39 AM PDT by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: Olog-hai

More soylent green for the hordes.


4 posted on 07/23/2011 12:00:12 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (My dad put his arm around me like that once, to this very day he wears orthopedic shirts.)
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To: Olog-hai

I was on that train earlier this month (or one just like it). At one point it hit 150 mph. Guess I’m a lucky guy.


5 posted on 07/23/2011 12:00:21 PM PDT by DManA
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———Lightning would hit the electrification instead of the train-——

You obviously overlooked the salient fact in the event. The train is a very fast moving train, a bullet in fact, and it traveled into the striking lightning bolt. The train was thus hit rather than the intended electrification target.


6 posted on 07/23/2011 12:05:06 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ....Flash mobs are trickle down leftwing REDISTRIBUTION))
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To: Olog-hai

Speed killz.


7 posted on 07/23/2011 12:06:25 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: DManA

BTW, this was not the new high speed train we have read so much about lately, that one wasn’t opened yet. This was a very nice, very smooth, very full train that for most of the trip cruses at about 100-120 mph with that one gust up to 150.

Which makes it even more curious why they invested so much money on this new train along the same route. Seems like a pure waste to me.


8 posted on 07/23/2011 12:08:24 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Popman

In the US, that would be the case.. In China (I’ve been there a few times) it seems the trains are always packed, and they actually sell “standing room only” tickets as well. On a 16 car train, there’s probably at least 1500 people.


9 posted on 07/23/2011 12:23:36 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: Olog-hai

RIP.


10 posted on 07/23/2011 12:24:07 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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In China they force people onto the trains.. They don’t have the highway system like we do and they banned short air trips from what I have heard.


11 posted on 07/23/2011 12:49:27 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Radical Islam is a bigger threat than the LDS)
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the bullet train is 70’s technology for countries that don't have a well developed interstate hwy and air travel system. Those people pushing it here want to take us backward in time to even the playing field with third world so called emerging nations
12 posted on 07/23/2011 12:56:43 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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The Chinese are experts at "copying" things, but they never get it quite right. Invariably, a "small" detail escapes them. They seem to be a culture focused on apppearance, rather than competent functionality.

I'll never forget the "bargain" set of binoculars I became curious to buy from a late night TV commercial. LOL!
The thing looked great, but they apparently forgot the most important last step.
Ever try to use binoculars which have never been collimated?? Must be a cultural thing.

13 posted on 07/23/2011 1:20:40 PM PDT by Publius6961 (My world was lovely, until it was taken over by parasites.)
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This opens the question: Is this part of a possibly growing quality control issue in China’s great and rapid infrastructure expansion?

It’s already been seen that these lines are unaffordable to the average Chinese, are frequently run at less than “high speed” - to save costs (related to the energy expenses for them), and now some volatile questions of quality.

Of, course this does not make the U.S. nightly news, lest the state-media harm the Obama hand-outs to the planners of such transportation scams in the U.S.


14 posted on 07/23/2011 1:31:54 PM PDT by Wuli (c)
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To: paul51; All

That is true.. It may work in Japan or France, but not here.


15 posted on 07/23/2011 2:06:08 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Radical Islam is a bigger threat than the LDS)
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To: KevinDavis

At least in that part of China that is not true. Earlier this month I drove from Changzhou to Shanghai in a 6 lane freeway well up to American Standards. Better than the freeways in Minnesota for sure.


16 posted on 07/23/2011 2:33:06 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Wuli

I am thinking that these trains are going to be used to move ammunition and troops quickly.

Civilian passengers are an afterthought.


17 posted on 07/23/2011 3:15:35 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (As long as the MSM covers for Obama, he will be above the law)
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To: KevinDavis

Really? I never saw it, and I go there a few times a year (my company gets things made outside of Shanghai). Massive highways are also getting built, along with airports.

In fact, I’ll be flying from Shanghai to Ningbo, later today (about a 30 minute flight - like flying from LA to San Diego). No bans on short flights as far as I can tell...


18 posted on 07/23/2011 5:51:29 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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