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Start Integrated Immigration Reform: Secure Border, Issue Tax ID Cards, Deport Those Who Don't Pay
Self | 24 July 2011 | Robert A Cook

Posted on 07/24/2011 7:45:23 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE

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To: doc11355

Perhaps. I imagine it is pretty easy to get a tourist visa to Canada, though.

Or maybe it is not - I am not Mexican. The times I have been to Canada, the border controls - where they existed - were trivial.

Actually, I am kind of curious - why DO mexicans pay mules thousands of dollars to smuggle them across the desert, when for a couple of hundred, they could buy a plane ticket to Canada, and take a taxi into the US?


21 posted on 07/24/2011 8:29:58 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: freedumb2003
PS: don't tell me it can't be done

It can be done. All we need to do is put a bounty on them.

22 posted on 07/24/2011 8:30:18 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Deport Red Cards immediately.

Require DNA sample and full set of fingerprintsfrom all immigrants, legal or otherwise.

Tax person to person remittances at maximum federal income tax rate. Refund request for all but 5% can be filed on April 15 with their tax return.

Any card holder or undocumented alien convicted of a crime serves their prison term in their country of origin, reimbursed with funds from remittance tax. No reentry.


23 posted on 07/24/2011 8:32:56 PM PDT by Go_Raiders (The wrong smoke detector might just kill you - http://www.theworldfiresafetyfoundation.org)
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To: GeronL

Who dreams up all this crap? and why? Who in their right mind wants to give this nation away paid for in blood while these cowards run from their own country refusing to do the hard work of fixing it?
They will be nothing but union fodder and Dem voters if left here.
WE ALREADY GAVE AN AMNESTY BEFORE! THE FEDS DO NOT ENFORCE ANY LAWS AS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BUYS THE POLITICIANS OFF.....DEPORT DEPORT DEPORT.


24 posted on 07/24/2011 8:37:28 PM PDT by magna carta
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

No E-Verify, no workee.
No E-Verify, no public assistance.

Cut off the magnet and most will self-deport.


25 posted on 07/24/2011 8:43:40 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
So, what do you do with the illegals already here?
Well you sure as hell don't let them stay like you plan!
They are here illegally and you're, more or less, granting them amnesty!
Are you allowed to break Federal law at your leisure and with impunity? I don't think so! The Feds would be on you like white on rice!
Do you let people 'crash on your couch' and raid your fridge after you've found out that they've broken into your house?
No offense, but you haven't got a plan that I could endorse.

And the answer to your question is...ship their butts back where they came from and let them and their friends know the house is locked tight! This BS of "you can't deport them all" is just that...BS and a sop for the masses!

26 posted on 07/24/2011 8:44:37 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
If you want to have a real solution to immigration, legal and illegal, here is what you do:

Advocate a pro-immigrant policy of low immigration. Conservative Republicans need to provide the American people with their own comprehensive immigration reform plan, i.e., give people a reason to vote FOR something rather than just attack the other side’s proposals. Such a plan should contain the following elements:

 Formulate a merit based immigration system that brings in the skills and talents to keep us competitive in the global economy;

 Reduce immigration levels based on need more closely approximating 300,000 a year;

 Eliminate extended chain migration, i.e., family reunification, limiting it to the nuclear family;

 Secure the border;

 Enforce existing immigration laws to reduce the current illegal alien population and limit future illegal immigration, i.e., attrition thru enforcement. Enforcement would include: (1) ending the job magnet; (2) increasing coordination at the federal level by eliminating barriers to information sharing among agencies; (3) leveraging state and local enforcement resources; (4) fully implementing the US-VISIT Program to track and deport visa overstays; and (5) make mandatory and improve such programs as E-Verify and 287 [g] authority to assist employers and law enforcement in identifying illegal aliens;

 Eliminate birthright citizenship;

 Ensure that anyone who enters this nation illegally is not rewarded by being permitted to stay and work here; i.e., no amnesty;

 Streamline the processing and adjudication of immigration cases;

 Promote pro-immigrant measures that help newcomers assimilate and embrace the values and principles of our Founders and the Constitution.

27 posted on 07/24/2011 8:55:48 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
4. No adult or child with a valid AID Card gets deported. Ever

That is the definition of amnesty. You are rewarding people who broke our laws. What kind of message does this send to the approximately 3 million intending immigrants awaiting their turn to enter this country, some for many years. They have completed all the paperwork and background checks?

40% of the 12 to 20 million illegals came here legally and overstayed their visas. Securing the border won't stop them.

Your proposal of having what amounts to different classes of citizens will not work. There will be legal challenges that will overturn such a system.

And do you allow family reunification for those people issued your special cards?

We have an estimated 2 million illegal alien criminals. How do you deport 2 million and not 11 to 20 million? Your system is not pragmatic or fair. When you reward something you get more of it.

28 posted on 07/24/2011 9:03:39 PM PDT by kabar
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To: unixfox

“It can be done. All we need to do is put a bounty on them.”

Of course a bounty would work. It would not even cost the taxpayers a dime. Just ask each deportee who employed them. Assess every employer so identified their share of the bounty, processing, and deportation costs for all deportees for the prior year — including the costs for those who refused to identify an employer.

The bounty doesn’t even need to be very high — $1,000 each paid directly to off-duty LEOs by ICE, with a $5,000 penalty if the potential deportee is actually legal to reduce profiling. In Southern Cal, an LEO could earn himself a very early retirement by rounding up a few every week without even looking hard.


29 posted on 07/24/2011 9:14:03 PM PDT by Kellis91789 (There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Welfare and taxes. Like resident aliens, red, yellow and orange card AID aliens are ineligible for Social Security retirement or SS welfare funds.

Legal Permanet Residents (Green Cards) are issued SSN and are eligible to receive SS benefits and other benefits like Medicaid after being here for five years. They can also receive Medicare if they paid into the system. Essentially, LPRs have all the same rights and benefits as citizens except they can't vote.

30 posted on 07/24/2011 9:16:40 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

Here’s a much easier plan. Since illegal aliens are here illegally, seize ALL their assets and send them home. To make it palatable to liberals, give them a few months to move them and their assets back to China, Honduras, Nigeria, or whatever country they came from. After the grace period, everything they own, right down to their underwear, belongs to the U.S.


31 posted on 07/24/2011 9:20:22 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: yldstrk; All

” If the US began enforcing its immigration laws, our economy would strengthen......”

BIG TIME

How many FReepers have been to Los Angeles??


32 posted on 07/24/2011 9:31:19 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: SatinDoll
If the child is a U.S. citizen, then it doesn't matter where the child lives. If the child claims dual citizenship, then, I have heard, the child has until 16 or 18 to decide which nation to belong to. If the child has been brought to the U.S. by illegal alien parents, then it's a clear case of child abuse, parents causing a child to break the law, and the child could be deported without any record, and the parents prosecuted and deported.

The usual choice will be to stay with the parents, but I could see a poor Irish or Bolivian or Serbian family deciding to abandon their child to Social Services rather than bringing the child back home.

33 posted on 07/24/2011 9:35:56 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

I recommend you stop recommending that the victims of this terrible slow-motion war surrender our country to the invaders while pretending to provide a smart fix.

Accepting any of this as the price of closing the border? Congress doesn’t get to exact any sort of concession from the citizenry as the price of doing its job, which is first and foremost repelling foreign invasion.

We don’t want pathetic little taxes (which is nothing more than selling residency in our country) and ID cards — WE WANT THEM GONE.

This is one the most enraging thing I’ve ever read on Free Republic.

Please include that with your comments to your congressman.


34 posted on 07/24/2011 9:51:15 PM PDT by Blue Ink
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


35 posted on 07/24/2011 10:29:23 PM PDT by HiJinx (Old Cold Warrior)
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To: VanShuyten

You have no idea the terror and anger that can be inculcated in a child by such an action.

It is more important that a child be kept in a loving, secure family than separated due to politics.

Shame on you for suggesting otherwise.

The U.S.Government has already set a precedent with Elias Gonzalez.


36 posted on 07/24/2011 11:33:12 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

You’re as bad as the democrats that want ro give illegals legal status here!

Deport any illegal caught, crucify any employer that hires one with heavy fines and mandatory prison time, mpo food stamps, welfare or medical care for illegals.

No green cards for any here or who have ever been caught here illegally.

No chance for citizenship ever in their lives if they have ever been caught here illegally.

Eliminate citizenship for childern of illegals.


37 posted on 07/25/2011 12:32:22 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE

That’s a dreadful idea. You’re 7/8ths of the way to total amnesty, and it will just be a small legislative tweak to complete the journey.


38 posted on 07/25/2011 1:09:04 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Robert A. Cook, PE.


39 posted on 07/25/2011 3:44:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

We have over 900,000 LE in this country who should be deputized en masse to do it. And any citizen who wants to assist, should be.

Let be known that ALL illegals will be deported, start some aggressive raids of employers and you will see the self deportation start in earnest. Agree to not fine the employers if they make a concerted effort to hire out of work Americans.

Start a reduction of welfare benefits in conjunction with the mass deportation efforts.


40 posted on 07/25/2011 5:49:49 AM PDT by Molon Labbie
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