Posted on 07/26/2011 11:23:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Edited on 07/26/2011 5:05:12 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
The leader of a large group of House conservatives said Tuesday he was "confident" there weren't enough GOP lawmakers to pass a plan by Republican House Speaker John Boehner to increase the debt ceiling and reduce the deficit.
Rep. Jim Jordan (R., Ohio), who said the Boehner plan didn't cut spending enough, heads a group that includes 178 of the 240 Republican House lawmakers.
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Ditto.
I’m standing in that same line. I’m really wondering how the hell we got here so fast, especially when our projected revenue levels for this year will about equal 2006.
They think we are sheep.
BTW, I'll find a use for the pistol, just dont drop the rifle in the first place.
I can do that in nine letters, or possibly five.
They only voted on whether to not vote on it. That's why Dems voted AYE, GOP voted NO.
The tabled bill can be brought back which is what DeMint claim he wants to do with CCB. It's not really dead, there was no debate on it, nothing.
Carney Admits Obama Has No Plan...
Carney Gets Hit for Ten Minutes on The Obama Plan
July 26, 2011 2:34 P.M. By Daniel Foster
Or the lack thereof. After bobbing-and-weaving for nine minutes, Carney finally says what everybody knows: the president won’t put his plan on paper because he doesn’t want it to become “politically charged” before a compromise can be reached. In other words, you’ve got to pass it to find out what’s in it:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/272768/carney-gets-hit-ten-minutes-obama-plan-daniel-foster
Obama Threatens Another Veto...
Just hours after urging compromise...
Nice way to throw the Speaker and Cantor under the bus, boys. I don't know how they think they can leverage control of one institution into getting everything they want. This doesn't look principled--just amateurish.
Voters are not amused and will not be fooled. Better live up to the promises that got you elected or you won’t be back. Guaranteed.
Even 5% would help a lot, but you’ll never even hear that discussed, and it p*s me off. Here in Texas, at the college where I work, we had cuts. BIG cuts. We lost a lot of people. GOOD people, people who were my friends, people who had been there a long time. It sucked. But nobody bitched about the fact that they had to be let go. We got it. We understood.
At the university where I am a grad student, the hammer came down this year. Lots of people were laid off, the course schedule for Fall is dismal, it’s not a good time. But I’ve heard no one bitching about it. We get it. We understand.
My state balanced its budget without dipping into the rainy day fund. I get it. I understand.
So for the freaking federales to act like its absolutely impossible to cut one thin dime is beyond insulting. It’s criminal. These office holders need to go to JAIL for a LONG TIME for what they’re doing.
I’ve been thinking that maybe the debt ceiling negotiations would go better if there were an outside “Workout Manager” to come in and help Uncle Sam to restructure his bad debts, and get used to the idea that things are not going to be like they have been up till now. I nominate Chinese Premier Hu Jintao for the job.
The vote was to table the discussion, as lonevoice points out.
Once an amendment to the Constitution is proposed and passes one house, it is forever a potential amendment subject to a vote. It’s never dismissed.
Look up “Article the First” concerning the allocation of Representatives to the House. It was actually the first amendment proposed but failed by one state vote to be ratified. It’s still out there and could be voted on tomorrow if someone brought it to the floor.
They passed a Congressional pay amendment (#27, I believe) a few years ago that was on the books for over 200 years.
But imagine if we'd managed to pass one at any point in the last 30 years. It changes everything. The trick is to pass it without the supramajority for taxes or other gimmicks that will give all Democrats an excuse to oppose it. Draft it so that you look terrible if you oppose it, and you just might get the necessary votes in Congress. Count on the willingness of politicians to take the easy way out by voting for something without short-term consequences. And how do you oppose it? After all, it doesn't demand a balacned budget for five years. Of course, to hit that number five years down the road, you'd have to start cutting things pretty quickly....But the amendment itself at least sounds uncontroversial.
It's been tried before, sort of, but always just got buried as a "symbolic" measure. But if we tie it -- and only it --to a debt ceiling increase, we force attention on the idea. It has overwhelming support among voters, and has the virtue of being philosophically linked to the debt ceiling in the first place. We look incredible responsible by lifting the ceiling, but recognizing that unlimited deficits can't continue. It is a perfect selling point.
Again, the problem is that we're just reaching for too much right now, and something that appears so limited and unsexy just doesn't seem that important.
OK. All of you. Listen up. The Majority Weasel, errr, Leader has spoken! Quit whining and get behind the Speaker’s plan!
“I still can’t figure out why the annual deficits are FOUR times what they were just three years ago. Someone please explain to me how the deficit went from $400 Billion to $1.6 Trillion in less than three years.”
3 words: Obama, pelosi, reid.
we increased spending from $2.6 trillion to $3.7 trillion in 3 years.
What? Why in the world would a Senator wanting to vote for the bill vote against allowing a vote? That's just dumb.
It’s impossible to know what they are oblivious to, and what they know but pretend to NOT know in order to be more successful in their demagoguery. ‘tards! We MUST declare this era to have been an era of criminality and corruption from the top to the bottom. That’s the only frame in which to view this. Examples must be made. Snitchers must be protected. This is Teapot Dome. This is Tammany Hall. This is Oil for Food. This is historically one of the greatest crime syndicates in the world and it HAS TO BE EXPOSED AND PURGED. We never get to the purgation part of the remediation. But peeps has got to go to JAIL. Especially that malignant ass pimple Harry Reid.
One good thing we know for sure will come out of this is that in the end, Obama will come out looking like a giant jackass. A lot of GOP congrescritters will too, but they won't be running for president.
Y’all get it. If we get a more or less clean BBA we win the strategic victory.
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