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No More Plans, Republicans!(Rush on Debt limit 7/27/2011)
Rush Limbaugh Online ^ | July 27, 2011 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 07/27/2011 7:41:18 PM PDT by sickoflibs

RUSH: "Tea Party Members Are Suggesting Speaker Boehner Be Replaced." I can't tell you how I knew this was coming, but I knew it was. I knew it was coming. The Tea Party people are serious. There's about a hundred of them in the House. Well, close to a hundred of them, 57, somewhere in there. But rank-and-file Tea Party voters understand something. Despite the massive landslide that occurred last November, both parties still have the same leadership. Nothing has changed. I knew this was coming. When I say I knew it was coming, because I have been told I can't tell you by how many people who consider themselves Tea Party people, Tea Party members, short leash. Leadership doesn't reflect what the election results indicated, get rid of 'em.

Now, the leadership thinks the Tea Party is a bunch of kooks. The leadership in both parties thinks the Tea Party's a bunch of kooks. It's not that they're Tea Partiers, it's that they're outsiders, they're not of the establishment. In Washington it's really not that hard to be a kook. You want the word "cut" to mean cut. When you start talking about cuts, you mean cuts. That makes you a kook within the ruling establishment in Washington. It's really no more complicated than that. Now, I don't know how this is gonna manifest itself, but I do know that this has been effervescing out there and it's now effervesced, or for those of you in Rio Linda "bubbled up," to the surface.

RUSH: We have an opportunity here. The frustrating thing here is it's Obama's who's on the ropes. If they called me and asked my opinion -- which they don't, by the way. I may be the titular head of the party, but they don't call me and ask me my opinion. If they did, I'd say, "I think you guys ought to stop going up there. You know, you did the right thing when you didn't return the phone call. You did the right thing. They're the ones that need this! It's Obama who needs to pull his irons out of the fire.

"It's Obama's reelection we're talking about here; that's what all this is about. This is not about anything other than Obama's reelection. Why help him. Why be his lifeline to that? He doesn't present a plan. Make him pay a price for this! Make him put a plan on paper. Who is this guy? He's the least qualified guy when he walks into any room he's in, and he gets to be referee, and he gets to act above it all? After running up all this spending, after practically personally doubling the debt ceiling himself with his spending, he now gets to sit there and tell us what's approvable and what isn't and what will work and what won't and what he'll sign and what he won't? I know he's president of the United States; I understand that. But it's his reelection that all this is about.

"Obama's reelection has been cast here as 'saving America.' It is Obama's defeat that saves America, not Obama's reelection!" Now, anything that is a lifeline to Obama on this that gets him out of a mess... There's month moral victory to be had here. "What do you mean by moral victory?" I'll give you an exact definition of a moral victory. It's the Super Bowl. Your team qualified by virtue of a bunch of quirk plays in the playoffs. There are five teams better than yours, but you make the Super Bowl, and you're playing the best team in the NFL -- and for three quarters you keep the game close but then in the fourth quarter you get blown out. At the end of the game the coach says, "You guys, this is a great moral victory. You showed the world something today! You show that you don't give up."

It's a loss! There's no such thing as a moral victory, and you don't get credit for moral victories. Voters do not credit losers for moral victories. Now, we won the election in November, and as such, we don't compromise. Winners don't compromise. Loser compromise. We are compromising with ourselves, because we are scared, because we are afraid we're gonna get blamed for whatever calamity that might befall the country. There is no way, in real terms, we get blamed for this because we didn't do this! I'm talking about all this reckless spending, the loss of jobs, this economic disaster. This ain't us. We didn't do this. (interruption) Mr. Snerdley, I am fully aware that the press goes ape every time somebody says, "Don't compromise." (interruption)

Which line? (interruption) Oh, the media is playing that line? Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I've been too busy playing with OS X Lion. I didn't know. They're replaying that line, that losers compromise; winners don't? That line is being played out there? (interruption) Oh, that's why! That's why they're calling me the titular head. That's why they're now all of a sudden saying these guys are listening to me, because I'm the architect of no compromise? Well, then I wear that badge proudly! I wear that uniform proudly. I wear that hat proudly. I told you on this program in Los Angeles last week, "You're compromising with yourself. There's not even a plan!

"You come up with a plan, you go to the White House, and the president says, 'I don't like that, I don't like that, I don't like that, I don't like that.' You go back, you come back, you go back, you come back. He doesn't ever submit anything. He just tells you what about your plan he's not gonna sign or doesn't like." Well, they end up compromising with themselves. Meanwhile, Carney, the press secretary, said yesterday, they don't even have a plan! Somebody tell me what's wrong or what's incorrect about the philosophy "Winners don't compromise"? Let me tell you something: When the Democrats win, show, give me the examples of their compromises when they win.

They don't. They don't compromise when they lose. Why should we? Why is the onus always on us to compromise? And the only reason we have people who think the onus is on us and that we should compromise is because they've been made to believe that whatever it is we want or believe somehow is extreme, when it's not. It's mainstream. We are the mainstream. The kooks in this country are the left. Obama is president of the kooks! You and I, ladies and gentlemen, are not the kooks. The Tea Party is not a collection of kooks. Mainstream conservatives are not kooks. Now, you're gonna see -- if I'm right about this, you're gonna see -- Republicans go after some conservatives, leading conservatives in the House as being "obstructionists" and so forth, standing in the way. That's what will happen. That's the Ruling Class going after the new arrivals.

Where was the compromise on Obamacare?

Somebody tell me.

Where was the compromise on Obamacare? The point is, they didn't compromise anything. I just am saying: Why is the onus always on us? Now, you might say, "Okay, well, Rush, Obama won the presidency. He won. He's the president. He won." What Obama believes, what Obama ran on, what Obama has done lost in the November elections. Obama won nothing in the November elections -- and furthermore, what Obama believes and what Obama wants has been losing at the state level. He lost in Wisconsin. He's losing in Texas. He's gonna lose in Ohio. He's gonna lose in Indiana. He's in big trouble. Obama is not winning. He is not the winner that we're talking about now -- and he's not compromising, either. They lose cap and trade in the Senate. What do they do? Pursue it at the EPA. That's compromise, right?

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To: sickoflibs

In the shrimp spine boner would admit he is a complete failure and say he would step down and retire at the end of this term I would agree with you. Otherwise, the leadership in congress has got to be fired. Because they are as useless as tits on a boar hog.


41 posted on 07/27/2011 8:46:01 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: al baby
Thanks I just e mailed that to my sister and her son (obama voters )

Excellent! I wish the GOP would use this form of communication getting the facts out to America.

42 posted on 07/27/2011 8:46:02 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: Principled

Frankly, there is not enough folks in DC who can look beyond Power, to save this country. It’s about blame and power. Not about saving this once great nation. There are no country saving solutions in either of these bills, just deals. It’s pretty sad actually.


43 posted on 07/27/2011 8:47:17 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman

The financial tool that we have that is most likely to save us is CCB... brought to us by the people most likely to save us... Tea Party folks.

We need more of them.


44 posted on 07/27/2011 8:51:15 PM PDT by Principled
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To: sickoflibs

In the shrimp spine boner would admit he is a complete failure and say he would step down and retire at the end of this term I would agree with you. Otherwise, the leadership in congress has got to be fired. Because they are as useless as tits on a boar hog.


45 posted on 07/27/2011 8:54:49 PM PDT by org.whodat (What does the Republican party stand for////??? absolutely nothing.)
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To: Principled

I could not agree more. The CCB is the only solution. But the folks in DC are about blame and power. Not about solutions. It appears only a collapse will re-boot this country, since the DC crowd are in denial.
Unless something dramatic happens in DC soon, this country will fold within 10 years.


46 posted on 07/27/2011 8:57:53 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: tennmountainman; o_zarkman44; arrogantsob; edge10; cashless
RE :”I don’t have a problem raising the debt limit. I have a problem with future phantom cuts and the Blue-Ribbon Commission. CUT SPENDING NOW.

I agree with you 100% on that and I have been posting that same thought regularly for a couple on months now. It urks me that they keep on doing this .

FNC Special report today reported Boehner was forced to move 90B of cuts into FY12, If true that is a hell-of-a-lot better than anything we will get if the wheels go off the bus and Obama gets to write the final bill.

I remember all the tough talk in 1995 especially by Rush leading up to the shutdown, and while Newt still claims Clinton caved to him, Newt completely caved, gave Clinton EVERYTHING he demanded and he even paid the government workers for the time of the shutdown costing even more money than keeping the government open. Newt had no idea how to fight and win a battle like that. He thought winning would be automatic and easy.

47 posted on 07/27/2011 8:58:28 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs
"You probably will have your wish and tomorrows bill will never be put into law, but the one that Democrats cheering it's failure demand will not be to your liking. "

I disagree.

Reid cannot get any bill through the Senate that is liked by the progressive left.

Remember, of the 33 Senators up for reelection in 2012, 23 are democrats. Of those 23, 15 are from red or battleground states.

WHATEVER bill passes the Senate will have real cuts and will not include a tax increase. And, I believe, will not gut the military.

I know Reid's "plan" does gut the military, but any final bill will not.

The heat is about to shift to the Senate. Pass a bill. Any bill. Just pass one.

48 posted on 07/27/2011 8:59:48 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: sickoflibs

Clinton had leverage and FBI files on Gingrich. During that time, Gingrich was banging his girlfriend, while still married.


49 posted on 07/27/2011 9:00:58 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: sickoflibs

You pass the bill you want first. When it’s rejected, sit tight until the other side puts something in writing. Otherwise the GOP goes down the tubes owning the “The Boehner Bill.” If we must lose, make it their plan.


50 posted on 07/27/2011 9:05:14 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Democrats are no longer into "tax and spend," now it's all about "spend and tax.")
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To: Carry_Okie; Mariner; tennmountainman; o_zarkman44; arrogantsob; edge10; cashless
RE :”You pass the bill you want first. When it’s rejected, sit tight until the other side puts something in writing. Otherwise the GOP goes down the tubes owning the “The Boehner Bill.” If we must lose, make it their plan

I dont think that strategy is going to work in this case. Obama has done a great job for a month play acting like he has done everything humanly possible to get Republicans to sign onto the big deal. While he was creating a picture, House Republicans were once again like 1995 just assuming voters would take their side automatically, in fact some have said they dont care if Republicans lose the election. Well, Democrats care. Democrats really want to win.

Given that Democrats will NEVER accept this bill as is, it is the followup negotiations to worry about, not this bill. Republicans already passed the bill they wanted, thank God, so this bill's purpose is to put Democrats back on the defensive.

51 posted on 07/27/2011 9:26:22 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: tennmountainman

who knows what Zero has on bonehead. Either he is a stupid Rino or the photos are that good.


52 posted on 07/27/2011 9:27:10 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: sickoflibs; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; Gilbo_3

I don’t want a deal, and none of my friends here in Arizona do either!


53 posted on 07/27/2011 9:31:44 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Mariner; tennmountainman; o_zarkman44; arrogantsob; edge10; cashless; Carry_Okie
RE :”Reid cannot get any bill through the Senate that is liked by the progressive left.

Right now no bill will gain support of Senate 60. But if Republicans join Democrats in defeating this House bill, then the clock ticks down and the news stories get worse and worse and worse all relating everything bad happening to the debt limit and a certain party refusing to compromise, Obama's been working that angle for over a month. And Democrats point out that Republicans failed to pass even this ‘extreme’ bill. Obama is on TV still pleading for compromise on taxes (as those checks get cut off and the stock market dives), but he will accept a bill WITH NO BUDGET CUTS of three trillion if he is forced to by Republicans, only to ‘save the country’. Well you remember 1995, Republicans were sure that was a slam dunk too.

With this House bill to challenge Democrats with which they will fight to kill, Republicans at least have a fighting chance of keeping many congressional Republicans from surrendering to a really bad deal by putting Democrats back on the defensive.

54 posted on 07/27/2011 9:32:32 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: stephenjohnbanker; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; Gilbo_3
RE :"I don’t want a deal, and none of my friends here in Arizona do either!"

Well we will get a debt limit increase one way or the other. But I suspect the terms will be much WORSE than this House bill that ALL Democrats have vowed to kill. You get that last part? ALL Democrats! I am NOT joining Obama, Pelosi and Reid and all those liberals on MSNBC. I cant do it.

55 posted on 07/27/2011 9:37:30 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs

Anytime is a good time to replace Boehner!


56 posted on 07/27/2011 10:16:01 PM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (Boehner, you B@st@rd!)
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To: arrogantsob
Nah, Joe Kapp.

Joe Kapp was a very good quarterback and still shares the NFL record for most touchdown passes in a game, 7. He was one of the toughest quarterbacks of all times once knocking cold a player who tried to tackle him.

57 posted on 07/27/2011 10:59:10 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Our problem is, people like McCain.

What good does it do to have a backbone, if your own team members are going to shred you for the Democrats?

If we don’t have people in the Senate that can handle the job, I wish ten Congressmen would pay McCain a visit in the hospital to remind the ass why they put him there.

This guy has short-circuited more decent Conservative legislation than Ded Kennedy was able to.


58 posted on 07/27/2011 11:58:36 PM PDT by DoughtyOne ($1.8 tril yearly deficits = $18 tril in ten years. So now we're proposing $4 tril in cuts? Really?)
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To: cashless; Mariner; tennmountainman; o_zarkman44; arrogantsob; edge10; Carry_Okie
RE :”I wish Boehner would just give up trying to fool the conservatives. IT WILL NOT WORK ANYMORE. If the TEA party Reps. will not vote until the last 30 seconds and bring down this monstrosity, the Speaker will have to ask the Democrats and the President to put something on paper acceptable to the entire Republican caucus.

There is a much better possibility that if the heat gets turned up on Republicans ~ after this weekend with gloomy and gloomy-er news reports, that Boehner goes to Pelosi offering surrender for her votes for a RINO/Democrat extension(much like Newt caved in 1995 after lots of tough talk) , the Republican party fractures and fights itself while Democrats cluster-bomb them both, then Pelosi takes over as Speaker again in 2013, The good news in that would be that voting NO on everything in the House against Pelosi will be a political winner again, just as it was in 2009-2010. Those were fun days. (Ok, this is the very worst case)

Democrats will be doing EVERYTHING they can to kill this bill, they dont need Republicans working with them.

59 posted on 07/28/2011 12:42:58 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: tennmountainman
RE :”Clinton had leverage and FBI files on Gingrich. During that time, Gingrich was banging his girlfriend, while still married.

So first Newt publicly bragged that he would shut the government down, and then the house held back short term continuing resolutions after Clinton vetoes which shut the government down THREE TIMES IN ROW, and voters were rallying behind Republicans (there are two versions of that part), Clinton with voters angry at him was on the verge of surrender and signing a bill with all those cuts, and so he (Clinton) called Newt up and told him he had those pictures, and Newt ran in and signed the surrender, LOL

Do you really believe non-sense like that? You do know that both Houses of congress had to pass those final surrender bills in the end to get past Clinton's veto? Newt couldn't do it alone. That's lots of pictures.

And Newt surrendered the whole battle after three weeks of shutdown just for personal reasons, and yet he remained Speaker for three more years till 1998? If that was really true HE should have been impeached.

You should write a book.

Part two could be how Clinton has pictures on Boehner.

60 posted on 07/28/2011 1:02:06 AM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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