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Mercury News editorial: Thank California for new U.S. fuel standards
Mercury News ^ | 7/31/11 | Editorial

Posted on 07/31/2011 10:08:00 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

When President Barack Obama announced an agreement to double fuel-economy requirements Friday, standing with him were industry executives and environmental, public health and labor leaders, all of whom, remarkably, had signed off on the deal.

But the real credit for this historic achievement, which is expected to cut oil consumption by 1.5 million barrels per day and eliminate half of all carbon pollution nationwide, doesn't go to the White House.

Instead, thank California.

For decades the state has set the nation's clean-energy agenda; it's been the tip of the spear in the fight for higher fuel standards. Its huge automobile market is a key reason carmakers -- which prefer one national standard -- finally dropped their opposition to a federal increase last year and agreed to a less ambitious deal than the one announced last week. ..

The suits failed, and Obama's Environmental Protection Agency granted California a waiver to enforce its own standards. That's when the carmakers gave in.

So it was great to see Mary Nichols, the head of the California Air Resources Board, sharing the stage with Obama. Nichols was a key player in talks leading to this new agreement, which requires fleets to average 54.5 mpg by 2025, up from the current 27 mpg.

The taxpayer bailout of Detroit also pushed the industry to come around, but we wouldn't be here without California's leadership -- and not just on fuel economy.

As far back as the 1970s, the state adopted rules for refrigerators that the rest of the nation followed. These appliances now have more features but use one-quarter of the energy they did then. Per-capita energy usage has remained steady in California for three decades while rising 40 percent in the rest of the nation.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnoldlegacy; california; carb; cars; economy; editorial; elections; envirowhackos; epa; fuel; fuelstandards; government; govtabuse; greengovernor; marynichols; schwarzenegger; standards; thanks4nothing; tyranny
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To: truthguy

I’m just getting a little tired of the let’s-bash-Californians schtick. (Especially ironic when posted on a site based in California, founded by Californians, and maintained by Californians.)

California’s problems aren’t caused by people who are from here. The imports from other States are the problem. I don’t know how many times I’ve looked into some dweeb in the news who’s bringing more embarrassment to the State and found that they’re just another illegal from Wisconsin or New York or some other place my ancestors left. Before I found that link to Mary Nichols’ bio, I really had no idea where she was from. I just made a guess that she’s another illegal from some other State. And sure enough, I was right; another troublemaker from “Back East” who’s come out here to ruin my State.


21 posted on 07/31/2011 11:31:36 AM PDT by Redcloak (What's your zombie plan?)
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To: troy McClure

yes, but totally no power, couldn’t even make it to 60 mph, and an instrument panel crude almost to an extreme. No thanks.


22 posted on 07/31/2011 11:37:35 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Redcloak
I agree with you (for the most part). But a huge part of the problem is with "native" Californians. Jerry Brown is a native as is Diane Feinstein and most of the California Congressional Delegation. Our state representatives are mostly people who were born here in California. Yes I live here too, in the SF Bay Area. I have to suffer with/from the liberals. But most of those I know who are liberal were born and raised here.

And most of those who have moved here and caused trouble seem to be from the Northeast. Those who move here from the Southeast or southwest or even the midsection of the United States are probably more conservative than those born here. The real creeps are from New York (Barbara Boxer) and New England (Mary Nichols). And do I even need to mention those who inhabit Hollywood? Not all that many natives there. We all know the problem with that place.

And of course the big problem is immigration- both legal and illegal. These people are gonna vote liberal 90 something percent of the time. That's why the Democrats brought them in. They are ready made Democratic Voters.
23 posted on 07/31/2011 11:45:09 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: RayChuang88
a small car could get over 50 mpg on the EPA 2008 test, possibly as early as 2015.

Have one of those now (53mpg city/65mpg hwy). But I'm riding around in a go-cart-like environment, unwilling to take my hands off the steering wheel or eyes off the road, even momentarily, for fear of loss of control due to a wind shadow, a passing truck or a groove in the road surface. Also just lost my HOV privileges because the 12 year old technology doesn't meet ULEV-2. All 3 on-board computers and the IMA system are now out of warranty which will cost me close to $7K, out of pocket, to replace.

24 posted on 07/31/2011 11:50:04 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: truthguy

” There is simply no reason for CARB to even exist any more. They are a duplication of EPA.”

They’re actually significantly worse than the EPA because they have a state government that’s run by the sierra club, greenpeace and earth first giving CARB ever more power.


25 posted on 07/31/2011 11:57:58 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: RayChuang88
Yes, I know a lot of people on FR are skeptical, but with engines now starting to get direct fuel injection and soon a really radical design called homogeneous combustion compression-ignition (HCCI), a small car could get over 50 mpg on the EPA 2008 test, possibly as early as 2015.

Count me in as a skeptic. The new mileage standards are insanity. The Federal Government should not be in the business of setting mpg standards. The free market will do just fine without them. Yes, there new engine technologies for ICE engines. But we are running up against something called the law of diminishing returns. That states that ever greater inputs ($$$) yield lesser outputs (mpg). This is driving up the cost of cars greatly and making them less affordable. I was considering a Ford Fusion Hybrid until I looked at how much more expensive it was than a standard Fusion. To meet CAFE standards, auto makers have made the cars much smaller (terrible for families) and thus less safe even with airbags. Soon there will be no more V8 or even V6 Engines. People like Obama and his elk want everyone in an Econo-Box with 90hp. This is not what Americans want or desire. We don't want to drive crap.
26 posted on 07/31/2011 11:58:54 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: NormsRevenge

“Mercury News editorial: Thank California for new U.S. fuel standards”

“Thank” was not the word I was thinking of.


27 posted on 07/31/2011 11:59:21 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: NormsRevenge

28 posted on 07/31/2011 12:16:40 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: truthguy
Count me in as a skeptic. The new mileage standards are insanity. The Federal Government should not be in the business of setting mpg standards. The free market will do just fine without them. Yes, there new engine technologies for ICE engines. But we are running up against something called the law of diminishing returns. That states that ever greater inputs ($$$) yield lesser outputs (mpg). This is driving up the cost of cars greatly and making them less affordable. I was considering a Ford Fusion Hybrid until I looked at how much more expensive it was than a standard Fusion. To meet CAFE standards, auto makers have made the cars much smaller (terrible for families) and thus less safe even with airbags. Soon there will be no more V8 or even V6 Engines. People like Obama and his elk want everyone in an Econo-Box with 90hp. This is not what Americans want or desire. We don't want to drive crap.

True. IIRC, the 1973/79 Honda Civic was rated at 51 MPG, but they were so tiny and they rusted like crazy. I just hope we get Obongo out of office in the 2012 election or we are done.

I think of the law of diminishing returns this way, if you shell out $100 for a ghetto blaster, it may sound good but a $250 stereo system would sound better. a $500 one would even be better. You do reach a point though where you get less returns for much more money. When you get to a $1000 system, unless you're a real stereophile, it doesn't sound much different than the $500 one. When you get to $5000, is isn't as much of an improvement over the $1000 one or even the $500 one unless you're a purist.
29 posted on 07/31/2011 12:48:22 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: RayChuang88

“soon a really radical design called homogeneous combustion compression-ignition ... 50 mpg”

I looked that up. The HCCI concept achieves its efficiency exactly as the diesel does: by a higher compression ratio.

So why should we use HCCI rather than just use diesels? HCCI engines, like diesels, need to be built stronger and heavier than the spark-ignition engines.


30 posted on 07/31/2011 1:19:12 PM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: NormsRevenge

I really think it is time to place a big ol’ tax on newsprint. For the environment of course.


31 posted on 07/31/2011 1:30:26 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: NormsRevenge

Where have you been?

We have been kowtowing to CARB (California Air Resources Board) Standards since the early 1990’s.


32 posted on 07/31/2011 1:34:51 PM PDT by DakotaRed (Why not just pass a law requiring criminals to obey the laws?)
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To: NormsRevenge

I saw a 1.5L turbo VW get 79mpg..on Top Gear.
Of course it was running about 35 mph on the European expressways.


33 posted on 07/31/2011 1:55:19 PM PDT by Vinnie
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To: frposty
That's based on if you're using conventional materials for the engine block itself.

But I've read a few things on HCCI and one thing they're considering is using aerospace-quality ceramics for the hottest parts of an HCCI engine, namely the piston and piston liner. That way, you don't need an over-heavy engine block.

Anyway, I still remember in the early 1980's when sophisticated engine computers, four-valve per cylinder valvetrains, and port fuel injection were "pie in the sky" ideas that everyone thought were engine improvements with diminishing returns. Today, practically every NEW car has engines sophisticated engine computers, port fuel injection, four-valve per cylinder valvetrains and even variable valve timing (indeed, my 1998 Honda Civic HX coupe has all four of these technologies!). I expect the HCCI--which may cut fuel consumption 20% or more compared to today's engines--to be widely available by 2015-2016 time frame.

By the way, one big advantage of HCCI over a diesel engine is the fact cleaning up the exhaust emissions is much easier, since you don't have to deal with elevated NOx levels and diesel particulates, both of which can be quite expensive to remove in the exhaust stream.

34 posted on 07/31/2011 6:24:39 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: Vinnie
I saw a 1.5L turbo VW get 79mpg..on Top Gear. Of course it was running about 35 mph on the European expressways.

Of course, if you're talking the original BBC Top Gear show, that's just under 66 miles per US gallon.

By the way, one thing I want to see--hello, Car and Driver!--is to take a Ford Fiesta ECOnetic and a Volkswagen Polo BlueMotion super-efficient models sold in Europe and subject it to the EPA 2008 fuel economy test. I'll bet even money that the fuel economy results will be disappointing compared to the European test results, since the EPA 2008 test is much more "real world" than the fuel economy tests done in Europe and Japan.

35 posted on 07/31/2011 6:36:50 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: RayChuang88
Volkswagen Polo BlueMotion

Thanks, been trying to think of the name of the VW.

From the name I presumed Bluetec technology was involved. Apparently not.

36 posted on 08/01/2011 4:46:26 AM PDT by Vinnie
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